What's a cheap, simple computer that lets you get right down to the hardware to fuck around with...

What's a cheap, simple computer that lets you get right down to the hardware to fuck around with, with as little software abstraction as possible? Something kind of like a C64, capable of producing graphics, and ideally with some kind of pinout, just for fun and learning?

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fuck off you pretentious nerd, learn a real programming language like a normal person

That's not very nice!

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you sound very insecure.
raspberry pi also nice trips

Any of the deluge of maker boards that have come out in the last several years.

Funnily enough, if you wanna learn assembly in a nurturing environment, the fictional DCPU-16 is a good place to start with plenty of tools available as well as over-simplified hardware that doesn't have any weird quirks.

I'd move onto x86 after that and learn about stack addressing.

any computer that has forth on it.

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> close to the hardware
> Raspberry pi
Fucking moron

the forth shill strikes again

BASIC ENGINE ESP32

I can be close to the hardware on any machine faggot.

I do have an RPi. Someone recommended trying out RISC OS on it for fucking around with assembly.

Neat, thank you, I had no clue this was a thing. I'll look into it.

I had not heard of this either. The DIY element of it looks pretty fun.

>BASIC ENGINE ESP32
>I had not heard of this either. The DIY element of it looks pretty fun.
what till chinese mass prodice it
best egicational computer
better only picrelated

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Motherfucker, you've been posting this shit for two years.
TWO YEARS.
Learn KiCad or eagle and just make the fucking thing.
Fuck, build one on a breadboard at very least, fuck.

im too old and lazzy
so use BASIC ENGINE ESP32/8266, it also good

>capable of producing graphics, and ideally with some kind of pinout, just for fun and learning?
C64.

raspberry pi is very stttttriped down

Amiga 500.
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I recommend the Tiny68k r2.

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I didn't expect to find actual decent advice here.

I would love to own either of those (or any Commodore computer, really), but retro computers are going up in price these days. I've been meaning to check out fleamarkets and the like but haven't got around to it,

This is very cool, fucking around with a 68k sounds like a lot of fun.

Why not just emulate a c64? Or salvage any old microcomputer?

A500 is both the model that sold the most and the most compatible with software (without e.g. whdload compat. patching, else A1200 wins).
Thanks to being most sold, it is easy to find cheap used.

Concerning emulation, I would rather have proper hardware to work on/interface with. Certainly, if I could get my hands on an older machine to salvage, I would.

Yeah, the cost doesn't seem as bad as I thought. I'm more inclined towards it now, but I was still aiming more for the typical cost range of your average SBC. I'm sure I could probably find it or the C64 for pretty cheap if I did some looking around.

Thanks how discussion died on Jow Forums. Even when you're anonymous, you end up tired of posting anything at all.

TempleOS
>inb4 raw machine binaries
too much work to get basic features

any old IBM clone can do the job

>PC
Fuck no. Worst platform of that era.
Shittiest CPU too.

Not saying you can't, just that there's nothing motivating you to be. Nobody who wants to learn programming picks up a Pi and dives into ARM assembly.