Any love for Fedora?

>and ridiculously hard to set up in VM
If you're retarded.

>ridiculously hard to set up in VM
What? I run 3 Fedora VMs on a Gentoo host and I had no trouble getting any of that to work.

I am, but it's the only distro where my guest additions just don't simply work

Install Gentoo.

Yes, erotic love.

The disrto of voice for non-autistic boomers.

>guest additions
Only VBox uses that terminology. You're not using VBox are you?

Alright, I'll bite. What is wrong with VirtualBox?

Well what isn't?
>proprietary
>useless beyond running a purely virtual device with barely acceptable performance
It works well enough for babby's first VM but if you wanna get real you use QEMU/KVM through libvirt with a graphical management utility like virt-manager. As you have come to realize, VBox guest additions are a pain to set up. VirtIO paravirtualization just werks.

Yes. Fedora Silverblue is amazing. Absolutely the future of the Linux desktop. The modern approach and the innovation they're doing is fantastic. I've been happy for years on Arch Linux and this is the only thing that's managed to tempt me away.

Been using it for years. Am a contributor (package maintaining).

Only issue is the small community and lacks of community support compared to *buntu or Arch for example.

There's discussion about making a new logo. I wish we add a cute mascot instead.

s/add/had/

Fedora made me stop distro hopping some years ago.

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I use it.

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why ppl shill this distro so much?

>developed by actual professionals
>everything new to the gnu/linux ecosystem happens there first
>more or less industry standard
>reliable
>stable
>best mainstream support right next to ubuntu
>runs well even on older hardware
>gnu icecat in the default repo

Debian is just an inferior version of Gentoo

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I love how fast down the hole you go when start considering anything different that fedora

care to explain or you just fell for the (((tribalism))) meme?

Memes aside, so do I. What's the fucking problem with it?

It's just too good archfags and voidbrains hate it because it works.

>propr...
let me stop you right there. vmware is proprietary, vbox is not.

Honestly the only thing I dislike about it is that dnf is stupid and slow as fuck, the rest is good

>comes preinstalled with SELinux
>uses gnome as default de
>cucked by the patented codecs meme
>systemd
I'll pass.

What's wrong with SELinux?

>>cucked by the patented codecs meme
You can thank amerimutts for this

>using an OS literally named "fedora"

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>SELinux
original author is NSA

and don't come back

It's quite good if you're a Java developer
Repos have latest JDK and Eclipse
By comparison, Ubuntu has old JDKs and Eclipse version from 2012

>NSA literally has a program for mass surveillance
>be suspicious of anything crafted by them
>>lmao go back to /x/

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>NSA literally made a program to protect their own computers
>release as open source
>>DUDE IT'S A BOTNET TRUST ME BECAUSE NSA MADE IT

>defending this hard
CIA nigger spotted

Yes, use fedora with kde at work and I am satisfied with it. It just gets my shit done.
This. I used to be an archfag before I moved out from my mom's basement. I still have some love for Gentoo though.
Also I've never tried void. Is it worth my time?

>using the default DE

it's great for a beginner os
it sucks if you plan to use it long term because gnome is bloated

i prefer solus budgie

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I've been using it for a couple of month now, I think I found home.

is fedora vanilla like arch or do they do stuff like debian?

Mostly vanilla, they only do bug/security fixes

>no dkms
gross

>Security by default is bad
>net install default to anything
>rpmfusion doesn't exists
>systemd is bad because suckless.dick says so
Jow Forums NPC detected
I use it

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*tips Fedora

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>because gnome is bloated
and yet it runs perfectly fine on a mid 2009 mbp and a 2008 imac.

wtf terminator has its own titlebar even if you have them disabled?

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>install fedora
>tons of shit bloat installed with it
>try to install some packages I want
>dependency errors
>have to instantly troubleshoot 10 minutes into my install
>turns out I need to remove 400 (FOUR HUNDRED) i686 packages the installer left laying around
>openvpn doesn't work properly and throws out permission errors
>grub is fucked from the get go and kernel updates don't get picked up
>basic software like deadbeef not in the repos, need to meme rpm fusion
Fuck Fedora

I'm on i3 and gnome is just fine, I don't know why people say it's bloated. My battery lasts exactly the same on both, probably 10 minutes less on gnome if I have animations enabled. Even with them on it runs fine. It's better than kde by a longshot, kde is heavily splitted into multiple shit and all is necessary for it to work, it's hard to make a partial installation. Whereas in gnome you can just install gnome session and the wayland/x session and it runs as a window manager only without any gnome application.
Kde forces kshit down your throat, it's an os inside an os. But that's because gnome uses systemd for various services that are independent in kde, Xfce is also like gnome in that aspect, it uses systemd for some stuff instead of creating another os

arch based
is the only way to go
the AUR is the best

*use manjaro for stability*

>arch based
>stability
>amateur devs
ask me how did I figure out you are retarded

this. most people shitting on gnome just sperg out over the ram (and even that got better since 30.0.) and never used it for longer than half a day.

Sounds like Ubuntu might be the right distro for you.

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You know how I can tell you've never used fedora?

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funny thing is people shitting on gnome just use even shittier desktops like kde or cinnamon, god cinnamon for fuck's sake

the doc told me so

You tried.
And yes its a photo so you can't pull the old "oh you just took some random neofetch h-haha"

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Based.

try not having terminal autism

>my experience isn't totally anecdotal :^)
Congrats, you played yourself.

Cope

Awh, don't have a real argument?

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users of fedora are free alpha testers
Ubuntu all the way

This, just like Windows.

>claims Fedora is alpha testing even though it only uses release stable versions
>uses ubuntu

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who the fuck cares use it if you want

>uses a Ubuntu LTS

>outdated software
>add a gazillion PPAs to keep it up to date
>still shit

Install Gentoo.

Yes.

Agree. Once you go with KVM/Qemu, you'll never get back to shitty VM software. In VMware you have to use ancient kernel or patch it to get VM add-ons, Vbox is slow as fuck. KVM may not be easy at the first time, but once you get it, you can easily perform any virtualization task pretty quick.

>security by default
they are held to US crypto export laws, meaning no strong encryption. VERY secure.

ok so what's more secure? crypt setup default with Grsecurity/selinux gentoo/debian?

I love KVM.

>gnome
>looking good ever

Ehh I might try it next week in Virtualbox along with OpenSUSE.

the new logo designs are even worse.
i never had any complaints about the current logo
its basically the same shit as the proposed ubuntu redesign to use only snaps: its a step backward that makes software bloated and package management as sloppy as on windows

Packages: 3100

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The Fedora people ruthlessly split packages. I've never understood the screeching about package count. It's meaningless.