/pcbg/ - PC Building General

OP is a shill.

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Any recommendations for a mini-itx case? I'm looking for something very compact. here's the build i'm planning on going with (may swap the rtx2060 for a 1660 if it makes sense)

pcpartpicker.com/list/K2WpsZ

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more like nvidia g-stink

Whats a good 1440p 60hz freesync/gsync 27inch monitor?
Can i get away with a non sync, would i be missing out that much without it?
Whats the scaling like, i know 4k is pretty shit for it but how is 1440p

Heard to many bad things about the high ends, for close to 1k aud i want them too just work, only one im interested in is lgs ultra gear at the end of the year which isnt much good to me now, so its a basic 1440p that i just stick with or a basic 1080p that i use for a year and then sell
Besides for what the high end models are asking i could get a 55 inch 4k tv, 144hz just cant compete and shouldnt try so why the retarded pricing for a pissy little 27?
Im an immersion gamer not a twitch shooter if that makes any difference to 144hz vs 60hz
Think path of exile, skyrim, single player story driven shooters

This is what I would do
pcpartpicker.com/list/dkthpG
or
pcpartpicker.com/list/BnvMNQ

umart.com.au/Acer-KG271U-27-inch-TN-Free-SYNC-16-9-2560x1440-1ms-144HZ-HDMI--1-4--x-1--HDMI--2-0--x-1--DP-x-1--S_43136G.html

I got mine on sale for $400 and it’s a fantastic monitor

>16gb ram
>zotac
am i getting memed?

Look up sold listings on Ebay

well your original build hat a single dimm and that's a terrible idea. Also yes, 16 gb is basically a must in 2019 (NOT for vram). Zotac makes the smalles and often cheapest GPUs which is why I chose that card but really you can go with EVGA or whatever your prefer. The dual fan 2060 models aren't all that different really.

Looks good thanks user

Hmm, I see thanks, some questions:

>single dimm and that's a terrible idea
how bad could it be?
>16 gb is basically a must in 2019
games?
>Zotac makes the smalles and often cheapest GPU
Yes, these are good aspects, just never heard of this manufacturer/opposed to evga/msi and so on

general issue: will all the above stuff really fit in those two cases in the recommended builds? Is there any measurements i should look at to make sure they will?

No worries, it’s a 144hz screen too and believe me it’s smooth as buttter. It’s good for twitchy shooters too but it’s really nice in cinematic games. I’ve got mine paired with a 1080ti and honestly I love it

Nice, im pairing it with a 2070 or 2080, not sure which one yet, would have gone 2060 and called it a day but that 6gb ram stopped me buying it

Yes 16 gb is good for gaming, even though it's not mandatory yet. But add windows, chrome, the game and some others together and you'll have a hard time going under 8gb in 2019.

>any measurements
well the case manufacturers give a maximum length for each case and I'd make sure that the card isn't too tall (as in protruding past the pcie i/o covers) and more imprtantly not too thick. Sometimes cards are labelled dual slot when in reality the beefy cooler makes it a 2.5 slot card which in the case of the FT03 can quickly choke the fans. Blower cards would actually be totally fine in either of these cases provided they aren't too long.
You can also look for other cases, the LianLi TU100 (super short GPU needed), Ncase M1, Cougar QBX, Dan A4 and Thermaltake V1 (really inexpensive) are amongst the most popular ones.

Single channel ram is literally half the speed of dual channel. It will tank your CPU performance.
And yes 16gb ram for games now, some are unplayable with 8 plus multitasking. I just came from 8gb ddr3 1866 to 16gb ddr4 3200. 8gb was unuseable in battlefield 1 and Forza horizon and most likely future titles.

Is the Cougar brand chinese? I don't like buying shit from chinese companies. I've tried finding where they're from but I found nothing, seems suspect. Their website cougargaming.com/

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Vega 56 undervolted is same speed as 64/2060 if you want that performance if you can find a decent AIB one cheap. Otherwise just pony up for the 2080 the 2070 isn't worth it imo.

In that case i might as well go for the 2080 duke, going to have this build for atleast 5 years unless gpus start leaping forward in performance again, which i doubt will happen

Nice. If you don’t mind second hand there’s a lot of good prices for 1080tis. Got mine for $740. Also if you go ’s route you can snag a 56 for around 400AUD

>Single channel ram is literally half the speed of dual channel. It will tank your CPU performance.
That's just a meme, user
Dual channel does not really doubles shit

Check benchmarks of single vs dual channel ram

Might look into that, the 2080 is supposed to be a 1080ti with some vram stripped out and rtx that nothing uses put in

What should I look for in a used GPU? The idea of buying a high end GPU used makes me nervous

I already did

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I've got the gsync version, so given that this is the freesync and might be different I may be talking out my urethra, but for a tn panel the screen is good as hell. Still got color banding so if that triggers you I'd avoid it. On top of that, the 1ms mode ghosts like a mad cunt so I avoid using it and stick with 5ms, mostly. Overall I'm pretty happy with it.

Any other one you'd recommend? I mostly play Siege but I'm not a huge pro or anything I mostly just give a shit about resolution, size, and possible the IPS factor. Anything is better than my current monitor though I'm sure. Hoping to drop less than 300$

I'm sure this single pic really isn't cherry picked and left without source for no reason.
Care to comment on this video for me?
youtube.com/watch?v=-k5wA7EFwpo

Are Fractal (non-meshify) cases hotboxes? If so then they would seem not worth it even for the looks/noise

Is it possible to that if I wanted 128 GB, I can just buy a single 1x16GB RAM stick 8 times instead of going for the 8x16GB one? Since its more cheaper.

How cold is too cold for my pc? I have it next to my open window and its 17F -8C outside

Yea that’s ultimately why I got a 1080ti over the new gen.
High end gpu secondhand market tends to be a lot more risk free than lower end because no one is going to buy a $1000 to mine on. Look for someone who knows what they’re talking about, and use common sense; if it’s too good to be true it probably is. If it comes with receipt and original packaging chances are this is someone who buys and sells the current top-end stuff, and so you can be pretty safe to assume they’ve looked after the item. Then again other Give always are
>no photos of actual gpu
>dust
>rusting
>no pictures of specs/benchmark

Depends on the type. I have a Define S2 and removed the top metal panel (it separates from the dust filter) and saw global temps go down 13c with pretty much no noise increase (fans at max setting)

You can but there’s no guarantee it’ll work
That’s probably getting on the colder side of things as you preferably don’t want it going below 5c or there abouts

but wouldn't the ram stick be the same models and all? I would be saving up a lot if the RAM stick worked

ASUS GTX 1080 Strix Edition $600.00 cad used, never used for mining or OC'd past factory clocks. Good idea or bad idea?

Again you can do it, and chances are it’ll probably work fine. But there’s no guarantee

Which manufacture makes the best motherboards including the bios?

Are I/O shield dimensions universal between ATX, mATX, and ITX motherboards?

Don't buy a lot of RAM unless you have a reason to use it.

Yes, it will be fine. Especially if they are the same brand and model. I have 4 Samsung ram sticks, 2 chink shit generic unbranded ram sticks, and 1 crucial ram stick, and one crucial brand ram stick. All are 16gb 2133MHz. My mobo is MSI X399 SLI Plus. If it works depends on the model of motherboard and if the sticks you buy all conform to mutually compatible DDR4 RAM standards. It can be uncertain though, especially if the seller does not specify the exact part numbers.

yeah, pretty much
This is because you can use an ITX mobo in an ATX case and it will fit

ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-GAMING-OC-WHITE-11GB-GAMING-OC-11GB/163551835673

Does this look reasonable, ok value, etc? Looks like it has all the packaging but no benchmarks. Also sort of wary that the seller only has Herbalife shake mixes under his reviews.

MSI hands down, especially BIOS

Anything above the dew point for your local climate and weather is fine. If you go to the right temp and pressure, then water will form on your mobo and pins and ruin the whole thing.

Amazon currently has a used Vega 56 (MSI Air Boost OC) listed from what seems to be a reputable seller at $259. Says it comes with an MSI 180 days end user warranty.

Good deal? Or is an MSRP 1660 Ti preferable?

Link: amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B078DZR5YK/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc

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Ehhhh one it’s gigabyte which I tend to avoid. Secondly the fact they’ve straight copy/pasted into the listing gives of warning bells. I’d avoid this one personally

I’d go for it personally, MSI is a good brand.

If I buy 8 1x16GB RAM will they function as single channel or quad channel when they do work?
Yes I'm trying out deep learning stuff with Cudnn, need these RAM

You can find out of the multi-channel support is available for a particular ram stick by just looking up the part number online. If you buy random cheap sticks, expect some features not work correctly. Honestly though, a workstation is too small for most numerical analysis and statistical science tasks. I personally treat my system a prototyping machine before I push code to a compute cluster. (for your use case, 128gb is peanuts. you're not actually going to be doing serious machine learning with that.)

I was considering define c, and wouldn’t want to remove panels

>used
Enjoy your burnt out bitcoin card

amazon.com/27ML1U-bmiipx-27-inch-FreeSync-Technology/dp/B07LD78515/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=monitor&qid=1551225398&refinements=p_36:20000-28000,p_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin:6570749011,p_72:1248879011&rnid=1248877011&s=pc&sr=1-6

What is the catch

integrated circuits do not "wear out" like mechanical components do. They perform the same as day one as long as the cooling system is clean. Assuming the miners kept their racks even just kind of clean, a used card is definitely worth the discount.

its probably left over panels that a different manufacturer couldn't sell for a specific purpose. that's frequently how optics equipment gets discounted.

what are the benefits of running a 2200g APU AND a dedicated graphics card. Do vega graphics on the APU work in conjunction with a dedicated GPU?

no it is absolutely not worth it unless you enjoy rainbow artifacts in your games and random blue screens. cards absolutely do ware out when running 24/7.

So you think its legit?

My only comment is to never buy something without a money-back guarantee if it does not arrive as advertised. (Like filing through the amazon claims or ebay claims system.)

No not really. good miners underclock and volt there shit and keep their cards in extremely ventilated areas so they are pretty lightly used.

If this type of thing does happen, it is probably because the fan or cooling pump/pipes have a defect, not the graphics processing unit. This can certainly wear out with months of constant use. If one piece of the integrated circuit breaks, the whole thing is usually toasted at once.

EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gaming SC2 11GB GDDR5X iCX Technology (11G-P4-6593-KR). These were set up in two Zcash mining rigs. They were run for a couple months before prices crashed. They were always run cool. These are the best video cards out there for gaming or CAD programs. They are in perfect condition and I guarantee they work. They will be very securely bubble wrapped and packaged for shipping. They will be shipped with a riser attached to protect the PCI interface.

$560
Like, at least the guy is honest. Should I go for it?

I would

I'm a brainlet, but not the same user, pleas answer

>mini itx
Get whatever case matches the purse /fa/ recomended to you

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>beware of only 6gb of vram for longevity
Cringe
m.youtube.com/watch?v=pfnzHA3-MhM

>m.youtube
Cringe

I mean you can return anything on Amazon. I think I'll try it out. If it sucks I might get this amazon.com/dp/B07CG41Y8Z/ref=psdc_1292115011_t1_B01N2FZTZH?fbclid=IwAR3Jfw49HthimkcE0T-iXkIlg0jiT8VYN5hTV0HTbFd8FKIV6rQDrGvV5EA

Bump for answers.

I know the apu is supposed to be something you upgrade later. but will a dedicated GPU benefit from the apu?

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>i5 4690
>gtx 960 2gb
>2x4gb ram
>250gb ssd + 1tb hdd

What to upgrade first? My monitor is 1080p.

what do you want to do?
or, what do you do currently and what performance issue are you having?

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Everything
If you upgrade the gpu your CPU bottlenecked and vise versa
If ya short on cash get ryzen system and gpu later

Re-asking from old thread, are ergotron arms likely to snap a wood veneer + particle board desktop like the Karlby, that’s bolted to a steel frame?
Any additional measures I can take to protect the finish of my desk? Not sure I trust the little rubber feet on it

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Some tasks are exclusively handled by the central processor, like managing your web browser for facebook games. Other tasks can be offloaded to a dedicated card, like playing fornite for pro gaming action. The benefit of buying a graphics card is to get high frame rates while meme-ing it up in fortnite or more 3d games.

Looking to run modern titles at high settings 60fps. For example, bought AC Origins but chose to refund it since I was getting 35 fps on medium. Also it seems the 2gb vram is starting to become an issue.

ah i see so theres no combination that happens only offloading my CGI hentai dragon dildo porn to whatever GPU it picks

then upgrade ur damn GPU if you want to play games like that. Otherwise 4 cor i5 and 8GB of ram is plenty

8gb is dicks though.

true

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Have you used a 4 core 4 thread CPU in recent games? Shit hits 100% usage easily.
t. Just upgraded from 2500k 4.8ghz

Graphics card
but you can also pick up an i7 for your socket and another 2x 4GB DDR3
along with a better monitor

>i'm a retard who doesn't understand the concept of 'allocation'
Hint: it's not synonymous with 'requires.'

>If you upgrade the gpu your CPU bottlenecked
Definitely not, although his graphics card upgrade options are somewhat limited (maybe to a non-Ti 1660)

Not really, especially if he gets a graphics card with 6GB or more VRAM

Upgrade GPU first. CPU later.
Upgrade RAM only if you think you will take it with you in your CPU upgrade down the line.

Actually, programmers can specify if a bit of code runs on the GPU or not, or even if it runs on multiple cores of the CPU. Your 3d 4k VR dragon dildo hentai is made using 3d modeling software which specifically pushes certain tasks (like calculating the lighting and shading of cum drizzles) to the graphics card. Things like loading up a save game of your favorite interactive furry porn are usually handled by the central processor. Rendering the porn on scree would be a GPU task.

Which kind of build i need to make if i need to work with Lumion?
Ryzen 2700X with RX 570 8GB or a used Quadro?

I have 15 browser tabs open, multiple videos, and steam all running. Why the fuck is your ram usage so high?

>yiff porn
I knew that was why my CPU was bottlenecking. I have tons of low quality yiff porn I like to play at the same time to set the mood. It must be demanding on the CPU to load all that at once

switching out from amd to nvidia gpu. should I use Display Driver Uninstaller or just uninstall the amd driver the normal way?

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woops i'll reask it in here. why are people talking shit about ASUS GPUs?

beats me

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