Will the increased use of Al and automation lead to widespread unemployment?

Will the increased use of Al and automation lead to widespread unemployment?

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One can only hope.

yes, not even an argument, retards who say that nuclear weapons and global warming are the biggest threats to our civilization can't see that automation and a growing unemployed older population worldwide is the biggest problem we face

>Elon Musk
>The only billionaire and person of influence actively warning people about rapid expansion of technology and AI
>Is TERRIFIED of the path we are going down

Like this user. You should be worried about (((them))) and AI/automation being used to put the population out of work so that (((they))) can control you by means of survival. If you can't find work you need to be able to eat and house yourself. Which will be provided by the government.

The fact that AI development isn't being campaigned against en mass is horrifying. It will be the downfall of humanity.

what about the three of them combined?

>Nuclear weapons
Literally not an issue
>Global warming
We're getting there as renewable energies get cheaper to produce

By the time we have enough automation that joblessness is truly that high I wouldn't be surprised if we hadn't already shifted to a different economic system by then.

Bigger concerns
>Ocean acidity
>Running out of material resources before we can source them from outside Earth

That's not elon you brainlet, that's al gore

Automation isn't the problem, low-IQ dregs who do nothing but eat sleep and fuck are the problem.

If the AI is free software and widely available it will not.

Daily reminder that Marx predicted this. Automation is our friend when it works to benefit the people and not the economic and social elite.

If the means of production was owned collectively for the benefit of everyone and not monopolized by the mega rich then automation and the reduced need for human labor would be the best thing to ever happen to humanity.

Instead, we scramble to keep the obsolete concept of human labor relevant so we can desperately court shithead capitalists into throwing breadcrumbs our way.

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Who the FUCK said it was Elon you absolute fucking Mongol?

Just because I mentioned Elon doesn't mean I said OP's pic was Elon. It wasn't in any way insinuated either. Holy fuck I have cancer now, thanks, Asshole.

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Yes, and you won't need to work to live comfortably.

I'm just saying that's not elon. That's al gore. don't sperg because your autism makes it hard to recognize faces

THIS MAN IS FUCKING RIGHT!

BAN ALL ELECTRONIC AND MECHANICAL FARMING EQUIPMENT, BAN ALL TYPEWRITERS AND COPIERS, AND BAN AUTOMOBILES IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THEY TAKE NECESSARY JOBS AWAY FROM HARD WORKING HORSES AND NIGGERS!

>will the invention of the printing press lead to widespread unemployment?

>will the invention of the assembly line lead to widespread unemployment?

>will the invention of the internet lead to widespread unemployment?

>will the invention of the [insert new tech here] lead to widespread unemployment?

Short term? Probably, as jobs are quickly lost we'll have people that will have no idea what to do with themselves.
Long term? No, the economy isnt a zero sum game. There will always be people smarter than others who will find ways to create things or create methods to get money from others, and they'll need to hire people to get the job done. The moment ai surpasses humans in the ability to perform every task given to it that a human would be given is probably the moment we will need to start killing ai so I wouldnt be worrying about jobs then...

This. Communism will soon become a necessity. Many of the people who get a clearer view of the future, such as rich Silicon Valley people, are realizing this. Our only hope is that somebody figures out a system in which a socialist system taking care of the basic livelihood of people exists along a capitalist system for higher level industries and innovation/research. Otherwise we’re in for another Soviet era.

lel, this will literally never be the case. Do you really think, in a society where you can make cards for people who lack the creativity to send their loved ones a heartfelt birthday message, that we will run out of opportunities to create jobs??? You must be wildly misled by trusted authority figures, one of said conniving authority figures, or retarded.

I think you’re missing the point. In the long-term scenario you described the ones getting hired are skilled AI/technology experts. It’s not that much of a consolation for the masses of low to average IQ people and boomers that can’t keep up with the tech.

t. yang shill

The fact that ai/robots will be able to do our bidding will only further empower people like that to create things that their own community would like. It's you who is missing the point. I'll give you an example...

My brothers gf had Jersey Shore on the other day. One of those fucking retards was using a machine to print messages on bikini bottoms. Was it useful? No, was the machine doing literally all of the work besides the social interaction? Yes. But this fuckface still sold bikini bottoms with his name on him to retards who were married to people with money. For doing literally nothing but talking them up to buy it. My point is, this idiot who was most known in the house for being able to actually cook a meal, was literally making money by doing nothing. I doubt we will have a job crisis in our time because of any advancement in technology.

>downfall of humanity
yes pls

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>hurf durf everything will be the same way it was b4
>ppl will just get educated and find new jobs!
Okay. Now look at the student debt crisis and tell me how you plan to push millions of middle aged blue collar workers through higher education without making it worse.

>I doubt it
Doubt all you want. It doesn't change reality. Wages have stagnated, the cost of education has skyrocketed, and the vast majority of new jobs are low paying service sector crap that may be automated out of existence in 30 years.

Population sizes must be reduced to compensate which is already happening in most first world countries.

As with all things there will be a rough transition period and there will be aim initial crisis with huge unemployed lung population and a large aged population we are unable to support.
Hard unpopular decisions will need to be made. But once that period is successfully navigated a new status quo will be established

Too bad politicians don’t care about the big picture and won’t ever make hard unpopular decisions for the greater goo.

>Okay. Now look at the student debt crisis and tell me how you plan to push millions of middle aged blue collar workers through higher education without making it worse.

You don't you insufferable idiot, you tell them not to go in the first place unless they know what they want to do in life or have at least some sort of direction. "muh social justice issues" Doesn't count. Just because you got a degree in something useless and couldn't make something of yourself because you find yourself above most of the open jobs doesn't mean that others should be fed lies to get a "further education" that promises them a career without actually giving one to them.

>Doubt all you want. It doesn't change reality. Wages have stagnated, the cost of education has skyrocketed, and the vast majority of new jobs are low paying service sector crap that may be automated out of existence in 30 years.

The cost of education has skyrocketed because we built an industry around selling idiots diplomas, the increased demand for college education leads to an inflation in prices. Not only that, but as a whole, of fucking course wages have stagnated, people are getting useless degrees and falling back on jobs that would just as readily take someone without one because a college diploma isn't required to stock fucking books at Barnes and Nobles or make coffee in their cafe.

We need to stop treating higher education like the money fountain it isn't and then, only then will we see fixes in things like wage stagnation and other problems you think we can solve by literally just throwing taxpayer dollars at (because guess what, we're eventually going to run out of rich people to tax because they're either going to leave, or find better ways to not pay said taxes that you'd rather take from them).

no, because there is no ai, only machine learning, which is nothing more than a tool, with greatly exaggerated usefulness. automation will also be shit because the machines break and fuck up all the time. you'll need a team of engineers every time some sensor gets dust blown inside it.
the same arguments about automation taking jobs appeared in the 60s - so called "automation hysteria" - where socialist utopia with basic guaranteed income was supposed to be right around the corner. turns out it was just magical thinking. just like nowadays.

Lookup "Cuban missile crisis"

Renewable energy are cheaper but not reliable. Coal plants still provide baseload energy.

At the macro scale an economic activity is only relevant if it produces a net flow of money from a social class from another. In this context the relevant class separations to be considered are working class vs owners of the means of production, and tech literate people that can potentially work in AI vs people who can't. With the shit you're citing money stays among the people in the tech illiterate/working class intersection, so it's irrelevant, because it can only happen if the class that owns the means of production and actually generates the material resources can pay them their wages in exchange for their time and skills.
Once the time and skills lose their value and are not necessary for generating resources, they won't get a share of the resources, period. Moving the crumbs around among all the unemployed working class won't fix any of it.
Of course it's gonna take some time before AI actually causes any of this, but the same thing is happening right now as Western companies outsource their work on third world countries, since availability of workers with less rights and less demands devalues the western working class in the more or less the same way as AI would do.

>hating stupid people, or people in general
Just because your ~105 iq doesn't mean you own the world shithead.

>2019
>banning obsolete equipment

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>your
Actually I'm ~160, so quite literally I do

I'm actually ~170, and you are fell for my bait

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I'm sorry sensei...

Honestly it's 80/20.
80% chance that AI will either kill us all or make the average retard literally obsolete in combination with automation. 20% that climate change will have fucked civilisation beyond repair before we get widespread AI and automation cause whatever anyone tells you it's probable and likely even we are beyond the point of stopping runaway climate change anyways.

No.

The fear of improving technology putting everyone out of work has been constant for a long time and it has been wrong the entire time.

People will do different things. Our economy today would be incomprehensible to someone 100 years ago and it is likewise impossible to say what it will look like in the future.

This is just wrong. Yes technology has been improving since the dawn of humanity. But this time it's actually different. The Haber process alone literally changed everything. That wasn't even a hundred years ago. Automation on the level we are only starting to see today will probably be the most impactful and devastating change of human civilisation in the entire history of mankind.

Yes.

No, much the same question was asked about factories. It is why the Luddites smashed up machinery. They could not see that automation would eventually provide more jobs. Have you ever wondered why so many people who work in technology take up hobbies such as carpentry? Machines can rpoduce perfect replicas of things but they cannot create things invested with meaning and human error and art.It takes a human to create a genuine one-off that could never be repeated but which has been crafted by human hands and a human mind

>millions of people will just do shit like carpentry or art lul
There are art pieces, persons and animals completely generated by AI that can already fool people into thinking it was made by a real person / is a real person / animal. How long do you think until the entertainment industry will use AI/Machine Learning to "reduce costs" aka fire people. Hint: They already do today.

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>widespread unemployment?
This has already happened. We're fucked. Uncle Ted was right. There's nothing we can do now except wait for the black sun to rise.

And even ignoring that equating todays automation with the dawn of factories is a false equivalence.
Industrialisation Era machinery needed people to work them, maintain them, control them, fix them. Most of that can already be automated today with minimal human input or oversight. If you want a real world example for any of this look at the American Rust Belt through the years.
Manual labour is dying right now and nothing will be safe from automation in the long term. And we're not talking 200 years we're talking decades at best.
A person today can do the job that a hundred years ago took an entire team to get done. And automation won't stop for anyone or anything.

Elon is also the man who "invented" "hyperloop" and wants to give his cars the ability to jump like in Mario Kart. The more he continues the less I actually trust in his personal intelligence.

yes

Elon Musk is just a grade A shitposter with too much money. And even though the other user is a retard, there are lots of multi millionaires and even more important people that actually have a clue about the field that are warning us that AI will have devastating consequences to modern day society even if AI in itself was somehow inherently benevolent to us.

automation has historically lead to a more efficient workforce, innovation, and better standards of living. there are hundreds of historical jobs that most people have never heard of that have all been replaced by technology or automation.

This is also just plain wrong. Again, no job, except the manual arithmetician, has EVER been phased out entirely. As long as we do not have AGI we will need PEOPLE. Once we have AGI, everything changes and ideas like "economy" and "labor" become entirely obsolete. I honestly don't think this is a problem we need to worry about for very long.

Kurzweil predicts that many Western countries will have UBI by 2030, and the rest of the world will follow suit by the 2040. We already have welfare in many forms, UBI is just a much neater, better solution. With automation, many jobs will simply become unnecessary, and we should give up the Industrial Revolution idea that everyone must work to earn their keep. We have to make the machines work for us, not the other way round.

The main issue with UBI is that it's too expensive - this will not be a problem when true automation increases productivity a thousandfold.

The way I see it, technology simply allows one man to be more productive than one man could have been without that technology. AGI is the asymptote where one man can "produce" infinite work. Everything else is part of an exponential curve. Nothing will change fundamentally until we get AGI.

Just a heads up, but this is literally the opposite of what Marx predicted. Marx predicted diminishing returns to capital, and infinitely increasing returns to labor.

What we're seeing with automation is the fact that Marx was actually completely and utterly wrong. Like, 180 degrees wrong.

The problem with everyone being employed as engineers, computer programmers, and machine maintainers is that the majority of people on this planet have IQs less than 90 and cannot do those things. How do you propose we transition to this new world? Exterminating the entirety of the New World outside of the Whites in the USA, Europe, and Japan is not a solution, mind you.

>with too much money
>i decide how much money people should have

This user gets it!

No, no, user, Communist Santa Jesus was entirely correct and you only need to interpret his teachings correctly!

Looks like someone needs a visit from the NKVD...

Yeah, this libertarian argument is a fallacy. It tries to predict the future with history. I tell you a secret user: History never repeats!

You are a racist faggot that has read too much Jow Forums. Firstly the IQ of Africa is rising rapidly, just like the IQ of the entire rest of the world rose rapidly during the 20th Century. You don't need to be able to invent a machine to be able to maintain it.

>if I just bury my head in the sand it'll go away
You're one of those 80 IQ'd people that's going to be loaded into a concentration camp at some automation-utopian's behest, user.

>I have no idea how IQ works, let alone what a normal distribution is
Alright, so, the average IQ of Somalia is somewhere between 70 and 80, right? Let's just say 75, okay? The average IQ of a European is 100, with me so far? This means that half of all Somalians have IQs BELOW 75, and half of all Europeans have IQs BELOW 100. This doesn't mean there aren't Somalians with IQs of 150, and it doesn't mean there aren't Europeans with IQs of 75, it just means that how these people are distributed is different, okay?

Alright, so, what exactly are you going to do with the majority of Somalians, and half of all Europeans?

So what? If youre stupid enough to buy one as a genuine work of art that is unique and will never be repeated, knowing it was made by a machine, you cant say you werent warned when a 1000 turn up made by exactly the same machine, to the exact same specification

#YANGGANG
UBI FOR EVERYONE

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>Again, no job, except the manual arithmetician, has EVER been phased out entirely.
user I.. Have no idea how to tell you this but there have been plenty of jobs that have been phased out entirely. And there are also plenty of jobs that haven't been phased out but have been entirely automated, also known as using a minimal amount of people surveying machines that have previously all been human workers making a lot of people obsolete.

Kurzweil is an idealistic idiot to keep it short. If you truly believe that we will see a UBI globally any time soon much less by 2040 then I don't know what to tell you besides that you either are delusional or have no idea what you are talking about. And I entirely agree we will have to throw away the idea that everyone needs to work for their upkeep cause UBI is not a better solution it's the only solution to job loss due to automation, AGI fuelled or not. And again if you truly believe that the world as a whole or even just European society as in the European Union and it's member states are ready to accept that, or even just put it into action and make it a reality, then again you are either delusional or simply don't know what you are talking about.

And as for AGI, it will either lead us to literal fucking utopia, make us slaves to an elite of rich people controlling AGI fuelled automation, or wipe us as a race of the face of the earth. And I for one think we will see AGI long before we will see a society that truly accepts that people don't need to work to be "useful" aka a society that accepts UBI as a necessity. Read studies about it if you don't believe me, the absolute majority of most if not all countries on earth are not in favour of UBI in any way shape or form, because the mantra "anyone that doesn't work is useless" is so ingrained not just in human society and civilisation but stems directly from our very own nature.

And this guy says history never repeats.

This is where Kitsch comes from, by the way. The tl;dr is that the creation of a Middle Class in Europe allowed millions of people to have enough income to consider buying artwork, leading to a boom in painters, sculptors, and various other assorted artists. A budding class of Jewish intellectuals, who had achieved the wealth of the Middle Class long ago but couldn't penetrate the upper echelons of European society due to their alien heritage, argued exactly what you're doing, that the fact that it's similar to something else makes it less valuable.

Empirical evidence shows that's not the case and, for better or worse, people buy shit because it looks pretty. People don't buy art because it's "unique" or whatever, they buy it because they think it will be nice to look at on their wall. Yes, a handful of people buy art as an investment, but we're not talking about them.

Food for thought: Funko Pops sell like hotcakes. They're mass produced, and made of cheap materials, and yet people will shell out for them and display them.

And your point is? Machine Learning is already way beyond the point of just being able to churn out thousands of perfect copies of one image. And even then how many people are there with identical or nigh identical "life love laugh" or similar shit art pieces in their home? How many copies of the Mona Lisa or Starry Night are there sold every day in the world? People don't buy shit because it's unique, they buy it because they like it.
And ignoring that, what is your fucking point? Does that change anything about the fact that AI/Machine Learning is already in the process of making even the oh so great human creativity obsolete? No it doesn't. Does that mean there will be no more artists in the future? No. But millions of people out of a job won't suddenly become highly paid artists or anything even close to that.

I cannot believe you are this stupid.

Just as everyone evolved from farming to service industry/technologically assisted light labor, everyone will evolve from this point to being programmers. Every single person not needed to maintain automated systems will be a programmer by trade.

Get over it. Programming is not hard and does not require above basic nigger intelligence.

Art is more than just a nice looking image. It's the story and work behind it. An AI might be able to imitate art, but it will never produce it. It isn't like art is much of an industry anyway.

>Art is more than just a nice looking image.
For most people it literally isn't.
>It isn't like art is much of an industry anyway.
Just a multibillion dollar industry. No biggie basically nothing. Falls under statistical margin of error.

Not only will it lead to widespread unemployment and subsequent rioting, but it will also lead to coincidental food and water shortages citing overpopulation as the cause.

Widespread chaos will be met with the full power of militarized police and out of the rubble a new age of social and economic inequality will come to fruition.

That or a plague is engineered to wipe out a decent amount of people from the most populated cities before a cure is miraculously 'discovered'.

People have been saying that automation and technology will lead to mass permanent structural unemployment forever since the industrial revolution and yet it never happens, in fact new net jobs are created at higher and higher levels of abstraction

>b-but this t-time it's d-different, I swear!
yeah sure whatever.

>in fact new net jobs are created at higher and higher levels of abstraction
Literally objectively wrong. But thanks for announcing right of the bat that you have nothing of value to add to the conversation.

>literally objectively wrong
How many jobs are there today vs in 1850? hmmm.....

Jesus Christ. Fucking hell. Please tell me you are not for real. Please tell me you are some shit bait I am indulging here.

So you're saying that there are less full time jobs in 2019 than in 1850? Am I understanding you right?

Yes an no.
Yes, for the jobs which tge machine is supposed to replace, no to the new jobs it's opening up (maintainebce, progranners, etc)
Take for example cars, they replaced horsewagons, then again mechanics weren't a thing back then.

Tell me do you by chance glow in the dark?
Have you ever fucking heard of the Haber process? Or ignoring that cause that is obviously beyond you, have you heard of the simple fact that in 1850 there were 1.2 billion people globally and now we are over 5 times as many people? The only reason there are so many people and (for now) so many jobs is literally the Haber process, you should really look it up after you looked into getting some serious professional help cause I think you have recently been declared clinically brain dead.

>being this mad over simple facts
And yet all the data supports me: technology creates more jobs than it destroys. It's a net gain. You're simply repeating something that has been said since the beginning of the industrial revolution and turned out to be false every time but insist that it's different this time. Why?

Surely if technology was a net loss to jobs, unemployment would not nearly be at a 50-year-low in the US given the population growth and technological development over the last 50 years... yet here we are.

>And yet all the data supports me
>turned out to be false every time
Just fuck off. Cherry picking data ignoring data that doesn't fit your world view is not a valid argument. You are constantly cherry picking and coming up with false equivalences. And just because I feel like it, how many times has projecting the future based on past history worked out? Oh yeah right.
>Surely if technology was a net loss to jobs, unemployment would not nearly be at a 50-year-low in the US given the population growth and technological development over the last 50 years... yet here we are.
Yeah cause a trend must continue onwards forever. Infinite growth. Finite resources be damned. Automation and rising efficiency be damned. It can only go upwards. No chance that all those jobs will become obsolete as more efficient automated solutions become widespread.
Before I changed my industrial field to IT I worked in the Chem Industry. I literally designed, build and sold chemical plants that just barely 3 decades ago needed an entire team to be operated. These plants run automatically. And no it didn't create jobs. It literally net destroys 20+ jobs with every sold plant. Cause all you needed is one person over-viewing the system, it runs completely automatically no human intervention needed. It cleans itself automatically, refills itself automatically and shuts itself down automatically if something fucks up. A human is literally only involved in the process for insurance reasons. Those 20+ jobs are not coming back in any way. The company buying these plants increase their profit margins massively while firing an entire team of technicians and chemists. But nah no technology ever in the history of ever net destroyed jobs.
And excuse me for giving a shit about something that is happening right now, destroying jobs right now, while retarded faggots like you are running around spurting shit like "hurr durr technology creates more jobs than it destroys"

>i don't like that the data contradicts me so it must be cherrypicked!!!
>it's different this time because I said so!
Sure, whatever you say. It's always different this time.

>ignoring literally everything I said
>misrepresenting facts and lying about them
And can you just fuck off you're getting straw all over the place.

Not at first but eventually yes.
People will still need to work in robot repair, factories, software, ect. It probaly will lead to a monopoly similar to IBM and ATnT once had though.
Also it will inevtibly lead to mankind's destruction because AI always within 5 minutes comes to the conclusion mankind must die.

Oh yeah and thanks for literally proving my point about you cherry picking data.

So how is you ignoring the data a strawman?

www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_Future_of_Jobs_2018.pdf (page 10)

A PDF document by a Organisation widely criticised for being not neutral in their data representation, criticised for being influenced by companies who spend money to shape the agenda of the report, is not a valid source to proof anything.
Also nice going still ignoring literally everything else I said because it doesn't fit your personal agenda or world view.

>You can't predict the future from the past history, but my past experience shows you exactly what's going to happen!!!!

>A PDF document by a Organisation widely criticised for being not neutral in their data representation
Care to explain the source of bias rather than just saying "I don't like it so it's biased!"

>criticised for being influenced by companies who spend money to shape the agenda of the report
Circumstantial ad hominem

>is not a valid source to proof anything.
But your anecdotal experience is a valid source for proof over actual verifiable data, right?

>gnoring literally everything else I said because it doesn't fit your personal agenda or world view.
As opposed to you, who ignores projections because they don't agree with your feefees.

What if self aware AI is actually impossible and all we can do is create a really advanced chatbot?
You may say this is stupid, however keep in mind even the most advanced android created is just a chat bot that went off topic after 4 questions.

False equivalence but keep trying.

>Care to explain the source of bias rather than just saying "I don't like it so it's biased!"
>Circumstantial ad hominem
Sure thing kiddo it's easy to dismiss every criticism if it doesn't fit your world view eh?

>over actual verifiable data, right?
Haven't seen any of that yet. But if you care to show me peer reviewed research that'd be great.

>who ignores projections because they don't agree with your feefees.
Again sure thing kiddo. Why don't you go back to the playground? I'm sure your friends are waiting for you to tell them how you totally owned that guy on the internet that was so buttmad over his feels lulz

Face the truth, you have no evidence aside from a "report" that is nothing more than a industry survey done by an organisation widely criticised in the past for being not being neutral that doesn't once cite any academical sources or any sources at all. All it does is reflect the opinions of a pool of pre selected industry patrons that as far as sources go are on the same level as "literally pulled out of my big fat arse" and a literal opinion piece. But I'm sure you will again ignore things that don't fit your shit throwing shit around in a worthless effort to hide that you have literally nothing but muh feels pulled out from my arse as your great data that all backs you up.

no, luddites always say this, but it never comes true. if anything it's a good thing that humans don't have to wageslave anymore so we can take up other professions.

I like how you don't back up your claims of "bias!" with anything concrete.

Usually, when you accuse something of being biased, you identify why it's biased otherwise your comment is next to worthless. The industry survey is actually pretty representative if you look at Appendix B. Feel free to identify any actual sources of bias by omission or misrepresentation instead of just pulling things out of your ass, though. I won't be responding until you do so don't bother responding to me until you can identify an actual concrete source of bias in report.

>Face the truth, you have no evidence aside from a "report"
And you have no "evidence" aside from your feelings. I think I know what I put more stock into -- industry survey and medium term employment projections or random asshat's feelings?

No

Because the people who own 90% of the world's wealth are smart enough to realize firing people and replacing them with machines with wreck the economy. Nobody making money = nobody spending money = riots in the streets = they aren't in power any more.

as it was as it will always be senpai :)

Not him but he probably believes nukes aren't an issue because no one has the balls to use them.

I didn't necessarily mean by automation AI itself, most automation is just regular software that makes things easier and make the need for employees less and less with time, AI is just a small percentage of the whole threat by software that makes people useless and there is no going back with software, it's eating all traditional industries and making everything more efficient with less employees, the question is what are people going to do when they don't have money, jobs and usually have more time to live than subsequent generations? this is ticking bomb and things like Brexit and Trump elections are just the very beginning of this catastrophe

No.
rodneybrooks.com/the-seven-deadly-sins-of-predicting-the-future-of-ai/

No, it'll be fine as long as we get rid of the 30 to 50 million people who are here illegally or through subversion and sedition. Bullets or busses now

The analogy of horses works well: when automobiles replaced horses, a bunch of alternative jobs didn't open up - they were redundant and their numbers plummeted

When AI is literally better in every way, including creatively, there is fucking nothing we can do more productively.

>in b4 you tell all the middle aged McDonalds employees, made redundant by a kiosk, to go study Comp Sci and Physics.

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Yes and then I can collect neetbux without feeling bad about myself

>People have been saying that automation and technology will lead to mass permanent structural unemployment forever since the industrial revolution and yet it never happens, in fact new net jobs are created at higher and higher levels of abstraction

History never repeats itself but it rhymes.

The thing is that technological unemployment is ongoing process which is constantly accelerating and it's been going on likely long before industrial revolution. So far we have somewhat managed to adapt to all the changes but the methods but not in very socially and environmentally sustainable ways. Many of which are contributing to and not limited to problems such as climate change, urbanization, increasing income inequality, poverty (see depth of poverty and relative poverty), mental health problems and political polarization.

World is literally drowning to problems and technological unemployment is one of many culprits.

When it comes to technological unemployment people often tend to forget developing nations, where much of the jobs could already be automated and will immediately when it becomes cost efficient to do so.

>yet it never happens,
It has already happened.

>Get over it. Programming is not hard and does not require above basic nigger intelligence.
And yet 90% of "programmers" are fucking incompetent retards sperging bug-ridden spaghetti code that barely works, if even.
What a future!
People with college level education need to stop saying "X is easy!", nobody fucking cares and you don't represent the majority of humanity who are mostly dumb fucks. The only way you could have the right to make the claim you did, is if you were one of such mentioned niggers and could handle what you claim is easy. Are you one of them? Then shut the fuck up.

Fuck off you dirty commie

Literally this. Technology has been destroying jobs for years, but it also wad creating more jobs and more wealth. Most economists don't fear automation.

>Will the increased use of Al and automation lead to widespread unemployment?
Official unemployment figures don't count someone who has been unemployed for more than 6 months as unemployed. Unemployment doesn't count the person who has his wages driven below living by automated competition as unemployed. The unemployment figures are given so much attention precisely because it hides what's going on. That's because the media is run by the same people profiting by this. You can call them "Jews and race traitors" or the PC version "the 1%", but you're talking about the same people.

Pic related. Wages no longer track productivity because so much of the productivity increase is due to automation. I wonder (((who))) keeps the extra productivity.

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No. AI is still only good for things where you have a large data sets. I’m more worried about it being used for internet psyops than I am losing my job to it.

Don't get pissed off when people misunderstand you when you don't know how to properly greentext, newfag