How many of you actually have escaped the botnet?
If you use a visa card and a major browser or google services there are data companies out there that know your sexual preferences, who you are who your family is, when you have had a break up and who you are dating or wish you were dating
how can someone realistically break free and still use a phone and be able to buy things?
I don't enter details about my break ups or dates on the internet
>I don't enter details about my break ups or dates on the internet
That's the thing, even if you don't and have a girlfriend for say 2 years then all of a sudden your spending habits change and you start browsing online dating sites or doing certain other behaviors they can compare what you are doing with millions of other people and see patterns in your behavior that you won't see and won't think are obvious.
but they will know
the thing is they don't just know the things you type in plain text in facebook, they can infer so, so much more when comparing your behavior to a large enough pool
>I don't enter details about my break ups or dates on the internet
Holy shit
kek the father of a coal burner gets what is coming
I dont pay for women or browse online dating sites
>I dont pay for women or browse online dating sites
ok bro I guess you can't figure this out, if someone can see all your browsing and search history and you are in a stable relationship or single for several years there are going to be predictable ways those patterns are going to change that are more subtle than going to a dating site or paying a whore
i mean if you don't type on facebook that you eat a lot of fast food and are fat and like technology there is no way anyone could ever find that out if they could see your browsing history right?
I guess it's theoretically possible to tell if someone has a girlfriend or not by how often they look at porn but with no solid data to check it against you're going to have a hard time making a good predictive algorithm
>I guess it's theoretically possible to tell if someone has a girlfriend or not by how often they look at porn but with no solid data to check it against you're going to have a hard time making a good predictive algorithm
you are not smart
Yeah BS, if Google or FB don't have shit on my (read: my real name and ID) there's no way these other cunts do.
>if Google or FB don't have shit on my (read: my real name and ID)
wat
neither are you if you think you can predict the behaviour of people who only visit obscure hentai sites and don't have facebook accounts
I am sure your credit card company and ISP and the places that ship your packages have no clue who you are
G has some browsing history, never used F and been blocking their trackers, neither have access to my real name or ID, also never have paid taxes, so there's no way these cunts mentioned in the article have my ID either so I'm least concerned abou this.
stay gullible
not even same user
>neither are you if you think you can predict the behaviour of people who only visit obscure hentai sites and don't have facebook accounts
bro this is not the only site you visit, you have no idea what is going on or how deep this goes
My bank still sends me "impress your girlfriend in this store you never go to" publicity instead of onaholes or something, so I'm sure they don't have very good data analysis.
Don't use credit card
ISP doesn't know shit either, I have VPN and DNS-over-HTTPS
man you just don't get it
keep thinking you are user if you don't pay taxes or have a facebook lol
>bro this is not the only site you visit
pretty close to it
you only incriminate yourself by using social media or putting your personal details online
I haven't typed my real name or any uniquely identifying information on the internet in years..
>I haven't typed my real name or any uniquely identifying information on the internet in years..
well i guess this thread is more for people that might have jobs or friends and pay some of their own bills
>facebook users desperately trying to reduce their percieved stupidity by acting like everyone does it
Yeah I guess so lol, stay btfo wagie
posted the wrong pepe but you get the point :)
i use those chink virtual prepaid visa cards on purchases
my only problem is i used my real name on email back when I was in grade school
faggits
if you're alive there's data on you
walking patterns, how long it takes you to shift from left to right leg
shoulder swing
voice samples
data from phones - how long you tap and where most often
from desktops where you keep your mouse pointer and how long
typing patterns recorded by mic, length of fingers based on how many nanoseconds it takes you to type out a certain word
>my only problem is i used my real name on email back when I was in grade school
yeah that's your only problem
this
these people are retarded, they think the only data out there comes from posting your social security number on the clear web
I have a girlfriend and I look at porn and fap every single day of my life. Frequent ejaculations prevent prostate cancer.
>I have a girlfriend and I look at porn and fap every single day of my life. Frequent ejaculations prevent prostate cancer.
degenerate
>from desktops where you keep your mouse pointer and how long
wtf
what would you track if not the "Human interface device"
it depends on how you rest your arm, hand, fingers and whatnot
perfect for telemetry
that's illegal
>if you're alive there's data on you
you mean if you have a phone
>if
yes, if
>posts on internet
>claims there is no info on him on internet
OH NO NO NO!
>backpedals
>pedals
>back
> escape the botnet
> uses the Internet
You won't find anyone here that has done so op
> tell ISP you are connecting to xxx.xxx.x.xx
> isp knows It's a vpn
>tags you as a vpn user
> sell data to vpn companies that target ads at you
Lol
This is actually true
I analyzed my university home page and they have a script that checks where you have your mouse pointer and the API let's the admin see a heat map where users are interested (hover over link, move mouse over images, etc)
> 2019
> STILL allowing java script
Who gives a shit? Just make it as difficult as possible for them to profile you. It's not as if I'm going to buy things that are targeted to me because I never see ads nor do I frivolously waste money on asinine bullshit.
> ISP doesn't know shit
> points out they do
> who gives a shit?
Lmao that flip tho
> i-i-its not that I cared
That's not what I said retard, way to misconstrue my point. I'm not who you quoted in the first place. You're not going to ever be completely anonymous, the best you can do is minimize your footprint. Okay so they know I use a VPN? What's your point? Are they going to target me with ads on VPN services that I can't even see?
do you only use the VPN to browse wikipedia or do you ever buy things on the internet or use email
Or if anyone near you has a phone.
>2017
What are the advances that happened in last years? Such companies like to show off their cutting edge features.
What's truly amazing in all of this is just how regular lot of the people in these companies are. It's just your run-of-the-mill marketers and managers, talking how this will provide great value for the customers. It's like they have no idea what exactly they're sitting on.
And it's all done and shared in a good faith, except there's no way to take back data when it's misused, it's just out there.
yes because phones can track information about you just from hearing your voice right
>And it's all done and shared in a good faith
This is the really scary thing. It's ignorance and shortsightedness
>okay, google
>hey, siri
>text user
>give me directions to
I love how in every thread like this everyone says they don't have a phone or use email or have any credit cards or ever search for things on the internet
yeah sure
the next swing might be realizing that this stuff is actually fucking useful and got us so far instead of screeching at the data boogeyman
has anyone said that information is not useful?
Yes. People do think that advertising is not useful.
>Yes. People do think that advertising is not useful.
no
They really do. Where are you coming from, though?
People didn't just start hating ads, installing ad blockers and get outraged at data collection out of nowhere and just because. Bad ads, bad business practices, unreasonable data extraction. Businesses played themselves.
people are afraid of their data being misused or in general of strangers putting together their sexual preferences and life events from ancillary data
nobody thinks the data is "not useful"
> friend worked for fb
> worked on their ai
> ai scrapes people and objects (like brands found in the room) from pictures
> every person in pictures is tracked regardless if they have a fb or not
> they can associate accountless people with likes and friends this way
It's creepy. He said you can snap a picture of a random person in public and find every image that they scraped with them in it even if they don't have an account
If you're seen multiple times with someone who does have a fb there's a chance that they let the app have access to their phone book and fb can get your contact Info that way
the only thing to be done is to stay an unimportant enough person that nobody will ever want to track down your misdeeds
Except that one company that wants to know what you spend your neetbux on
>Except that one company that wants to know what you spend your neetbux on
true
what do we do when every cop has a facial scanner in his car and can see your whole browsing history by getting you on cam during a traffic stop
You can't. Its literally the mark of the beast. You CAN NOT participate in modern life without contributing to the botnet. Even extremely seasoned security professionals can't have perfect opsec in today's world.
Even if in theory you had perfect opsec your friends, family, and any strangers you are around will compromise you without realising it by having spy apps on their phone that recognise your voice and 1000 other ways of getting fucked. You have to just accept that there is no escape.
The filthy slag you dipped your wick in did though.
but I don't buy off amazon and barely post on facebook so they don't know anything about me
You are still owned. Your opsec is wasted because your life is worthless.
You don't understand the extent to which you are surveiled. There is no hope for you.
I throw them off by giving them bad data. Those dildos, butt plugs, chastity cage and sissy clothes I bought last year? Yeah, I faked the whole thing. I know it worked because Amazon keeps showing me dildos and sexy clothes as recommendations now.
Truth is, I'm totally straight.
>how can someone realistically break free and still use a phone and be able to buy things?
get cash.
buy burner phone with cash.
stop being a faggot.
>buy burner phone with cash.
>call your mom and your girlfriend with same phone
>now they know it's you, who else would call your mom AND your girlfriend?
it's not that easy
This is actually true and apparently they're mounting them on the light rack to scan faces in cars/on sidewalk
This is an actual thing not fear mongering
when
shit's been in casinos for decades
They can link pseudononymous bitcoin transactions across varying addresses all back to a social security number and place of residence. You are naive if you think they don't know who you are and what you like.
For the past seven years I have not owned a phone, I do not have a bank account (cash everything), I have no social media accounts whatsoever, my laptop was paid for in cash by someone else, I do have a driver's license but no utilities or housing in my name and an outdated mailing address. I use Gentoo with dnscrypt and macchanger on some old fart neighbor's wifi that still uses WEP that I hacked, properly tweaked IceCat+LibreFox configs, and noscript captcha (Jow Forums is one of the maybe three or four sites that I frequent). Tapped municipal or backup UPS for power, and my tent is lined with space blankets to prevent Van Eck phreaking (wifi adapter has to stick out the front, but what can ya do).
>shit's been in casinos for decades
o no
>They can link pseudononymous bitcoin transactions across varying addresses all back to a social security number and place of residence. You are naive if you think they don't know who you are and what you like.
just so long as they don't bust me for buying personal use quantity hard drugs over the internet i don't care
>pseudononymous
what do you do for a living?
That's no concern of yours...
tell me more. what made you so paranoid user? i mean this respectfully but are you mentally ill?
pls answer
not many people know about van eck phreaking, how do you know about this
why are you so paranoid?
im guessing you are between 25-35 years old...
If you're not as paranoid as I am in this day and age, you're either woefully uninformed or willfully ignorant. I just happen to be pretty low maintenance.
And good guess, mid 30's.
The most terrifying thing is how the data reach em.
All sort of "good will" things that end up being just honeypot for data collection.
Subtle super market cards, "free water","Smart tvs", all sorts of terrible scams.
All that info they collect is arbitrary. The key is matching a name with the data. Sure in hindsight you could definitely say John Smith's browsing habits strongly suggest that he is an anarchist cyber terrorist, but any cop or even spook agent would never act unless they got actual real time eyes on at least something.
The idea that each three letter org. has super A.I.s and data mining software with party van swat teams on stand by to drag each of you from your cheeto infested NEET homes is just cringeworthy.
I only needed to see one post to know you are pretentious and a virgin. Google is way smarter than me so imagine what they have on you
>2019
>doesn't know that his surroundings can be mapped out accurately using inaudible frequencies emitted by his speaker
>the reverberations are again captured by his speaker which is wired to function both as a speaker and a microphone and the surroundings are calculated based on the strength of reverberations as they come in
Welcome to the botnet, kid
What part of 'space blankets' didn't you understand.
what part of "if it's a question, put a question mark at the end" didn't you understand?
Why don't.
You lick my balls.
retard
Hey buddy, you're the one that can't read.
...no? i'm not even
It's not about the three letter organizations you have to be worried about, but the marketing departments that will extrapolate data from your data to make you buy garbage you otherwise wouldn't, to control your thoughts, to make you sign to ideologies.
imagine caring this much about privacy while still still trusting using an "anonymous" website ran by some random dudes with next no transparency in its nearly 16 years. either become amish or conform, nerds.
Imagine being so much of an NPC that marketing actually works on you.
For every apple product you don't buy, the hipster next door will buy 3.