The UK is looking to extend it's porn ID system to other websites.
>The idea of requiring ID for sites such as Facebook is now ‘under discussion’, says British obscenity lawyer Myles Jackman.
>In the near future, you might also need to use such systems to log into site such as Facebook or Twitter, Jackman says. Jackman says,
>'There seems to be a massive groundswell of opinion in Westminster that age verification is a solution to the problem. It's seen as a simple way forward to cure all the ills allegedly caused by social media.'
>In terms of timescale, it’s less clear, Jackman says, but there’s huge support in Parliament for the idea, he says.
Wouldn't it be easier if they make an age website that requires a password that you obtain from the government instead?
David Young
No privacy -> dead critics No porn -> sexual violence (minors) No access to social media -> mmh dont know. Communication. Whatsapp and other p2p comms also getting behind id wall?
Jace Diaz
Porn websites must love this. Now they'll be able to tie all porn surfing directly to an identity.
Liam Hill
Let the UK fall to the Muslims. It is never getting better under bong rule. If past laws are any indication of the future they will mock the rest of the world for not being as oppressed as them.
Lol thank God that shithole of a country is leaving the EU
Maybe we can deport all of our Muslims to the UK once we white people take over our countries
Jack Brown
The UK leaving the EU is literally the best thing that could have happened to all parties involved. This way they can't force their Iron Lady bullshit on the rest of Europe.
Landon Cook
The UK should be turned into a prison like that movie starring Kurt Russel.
It's literally an island in the ocean. So it'll be like Alcatraz.
Logan Myers
And that's a good thing!
Lucas Lee
>alright facebook in the name of the queen do this >no what now?
David Cox
I assume the government would just block domains and addresses unless you have provided your identity. Why check all the porn sites follow your rules when you can just toss them on a blacklist?
Nathaniel Kelly
So TPTB have figured out I don't have any interest in pedo shit so they are gonna ban all porn. Creative thinking on their part.
Jeremiah Phillips
boomers trying to make tech laws is pathetic. makes me think of that senate hearing where the guy on the technology committee is asking the google VP of privacy the most basic shit.
Isaiah Smith
I can't wait to leave this shit hole country.
In a few decades the UK will be poorer than venezuela anyway.
How is this not a good thing? The government is unintentionally pushing people to use VPNs.
Easton Wilson
Even with this, few people are actually going to do that. They will just register. I suspect that this is actually about slowly pushing into forcing people to use their clear name on all social platforms. First they justify building this infrastructure with pornography or dangers for children, then they slowly creep it into more areas and use it to keep a full record about everybody. That way they can fully enforce the hatespeech laws online and identify thought criminals.
I've been looking up VPN's because of it, it's actually a really hard choice
Kayden Thompson
Where were you the day britbongs decided to shoot themselves in the foot after brexit by isolating themselves from the mainstream internet? That is actually a good shot against Facebook and twitter, they’ll be free of britbongs
Mason Gutierrez
In the future, every user generated content will have a name and face pic attached to it. ID for porn is just the beginning. On top of that youll have analytics in the background like today
What’s the current cost of one? Why not just go with a VPS and host your own at this point.
Charles Reyes
based taste in beats user
Brayden Stewart
And then they will make VPNs legal only for company use
Charles Wright
VPN's don't keep you anonymous, don't treat them that way. They ideally keep the sites you visit from knowing who or where you are, but you can never know if the VPN company gives away your date. "No logs" is a meme. Pick based on speed, price and stuff like being able to avoid VPN blocks, some offer a special method to do that but I don't know how well that works. Don't pick based on "security". If you want anonymity, use tor, not VPN.
Evan Parker
Because I've never looked into either before now, all the silkroad clones are honeypots now so why would I need a VPN?
I know VPN's aren't anonymous and they'll hand your data over, but I don't want to pay the government to shitpost on Jow Forums much less buy a fucking porn license, I'd much rather pay for a VPN+Pass out of spite
Isaiah Rodriguez
if the endpoint expect clear text
>VPN endpoint will hand over cleartext >Your endpoint get's cleartext
encrypted is connection only, fuck know who's server and you still fucked
t. retard user
Lucas Wilson
You sound like a parrot. VPNs in this case, would totally be keeping him anonymous. You over estimate the capacity of the state to handle what will literally be trillions of data points without a fast way to identify anyone, specially when it isn't a crime. The logic to bring someone to court over this circunvention of law is that to keep porn from open access of children it requires a license, a VPN requires a credit card for purchase and as such, for the person to be over 18 anyways. In order to make it a crime they'd have to literally outlaw porn all together or out law the usage of VPNs.
Evan Rogers
thread isn't about that and besides he's right
>They ideally keep the sites you visit from knowing who or where you are
Ideally being the keyword shill
Jackson Lewis
>connect to a server through an encrypted connection >ISP sees you connect to the server >ISP does not know what you're getting from server or sending to the server >ITS NOT ANONYMOUS explain how faggot.
Blake Nelson
based government maybe this will fix the facebook and porn addicts
Angel Nelson
Read my post again and you will know the answer. I literally explained it.
Owen Thompson
so you're assuming VPN company is simply handing out logs to authorities of the UK? That's your basis for the no anonymity claim? That is just hogwash of an excuse.
Chase Robinson
see my previous post FAGGOT
Parker Green
Some also sell data to advertisement companies and so on, how do you think the free VPN services make money? Payed once can do it as well though. Anonymity is not only about governments, you know that, right? You never know who they give your data to, you always have to trust them, that's the point.
Liam Jenkins
who said anything about "free vpn" services. Those are assumed to simply be a tunnel to avoid geoblocking and other reasons, everyone knows those are not safe. I am talking about paid VPN services and VPSs you can self host a VPN with.
Nathan Reyes
VPN isn't going to work for long. Whitelisting can defeat all encryption. Need to use company's vpn? You need to get a vpn license. No license? Isp automatically filters all encrypted packet it doesn't understand. TLS can be legally mitmed with a required government root certificate
Kayden Bennett
>I'm giving them money, that means they can't jew me and double collect the Shekels You're pretty naive.
John Moore
>Even with this, few people are actually going to do that. They will just register. I suspect that this is actually about slowly pushing into forcing people to use their clear name on all social platforms. First they justify building this infrastructure with pornography or dangers for children, then they slowly creep it into more areas and use it to keep a full record about everybody. That way they can fully enforce the hatespeech laws online and identify thought criminals. clearly won't work though even if they think it will
maybe for actual boomers
Adrian Turner
Didn't the Russians or Chinese come up with a way of snooping on HTTPS traffic recently?
Caleb Sullivan
in Jow Forums we trust
Levi Murphy
You're thinking about domain blocking which is currently sent unencrypted
Aiden Gonzalez
Nope. Found it.
South Korea.
>South Korea will expand its site blocking measures with SNI eavesdropping, so HTTPS sites can be blocked as well. The new measure, which will also affect pirate sites, has generated widespread opposition. While it's more effective than standard DNS blocking, it's certainly not impossible to circumvent.
Connor Morris
perhaps you're to paranoid.
Landon Gray
>clearly won't work though I don't know, do you think normies would suddenly stop using facebook and twitter if they would have to register the account with the government? Most of them already use their real name, I think they would just register, complain for a week and forget about it. Normies are fucking retarded, user.
r/DataHoarder/ suddenly doesn't seem like a bunch of diseased people when you consider what can happen the imposition of borders on the internet would turn it into a totally different thing than what it is today, and will happen eventually.
Grayson King
I keep a SSD on my x220 of 30gb which has Windows 10 decoy install on it with absolutely no personal data or internet ever used.
I use the internet on a live distro only, I keep no personal data on my computer. I have a external drive where I keep my data and I have literal two copies of it, one at home the other one offsite (3-2-1). I have had a face to face conversation with state investigators because one of my so called friends turned out to have less than savory interests which he searched for online, and said investigator asked for my backup hard drive and phone. I live on a constant level of paranoia. I am not a schizo though to assume the level of paranoia you are assuming, is insane, if you are that paranoid that you assume a business that makes money literally on hiding your ass would jeopardize said business and hand over that much data over something that isn't even a crime, you're just out of your fucking mind
Nolan Gonzalez
Even if I use NordVPN which is considered good, if I use one of their US servers doesnt it HAVE to log me by law?
Seems like the best countries to use are far... like Switzerland.
Leo Bell
>website blocked >need privacy against government just use vpn
Isaac Torres
I've heard ProtonVPN has a free service for web browsing only.
Since they're operated by the same people as ProtonMail, which is based in Swissland.
Gabriel Morris
>you're just out of your fucking mind >paranoid >insane >schizo >just trust VPN providers, it's save
its irrelevant data, you're not even doing anything illegal, you're just using it to browse. All these theories and none of it proven factual by China or USA.
Andrew Murphy
People's browsing data is worth a lot and the browsing data of people who are explicitly trying to stay anonymous is worth even more. It's not irrelevant data. I never said that VPN doesn't have it's uses, but it's not something anyone should rely on if he actually wants to stay anonymous.
Benjamin Gray
If you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to hide.
Samuel Morris
If you have nothing to say, you have nothing to post.
Ayden Jenkins
>If you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to hide. That's the point, everyone in Britain is comitting some sort of crime because it's tyranical, this is a deliberate measure to keep peoples heads down so people are less inclined to risk their wellbeing to dissent against the state >Criticising muslim rape gangs on twitter literally got multiple people visits from the police
Isaiah Rodriguez
millions in autocratic regimes disagree with you, they're kept safe on the basis of using VPNs. Anonymity is possible in more ways than one, if I wanted to be anonymous I'll go over to my local supermarket and do illegal shit on their wifi no VPN required.
Xavier Stewart
It's not like a visit from the British police is a threatening experience lol
>It's not like a visit from the British police is a threatening experience
Pretty much this. Just open the window and tell them to fuck off and come back with a warrant.
Evan Murphy
>some shitty sand country can't force western VPN companies to give them data >that means I'm save Lmao.
Samuel Lopez
Why aren't Brits mass migrating out of this orwellian hellhole?
Aaron Myers
Any opinions on country of the server regardless of the service?
Leo King
Oi u got a loicense for dat window?
Kevin Anderson
>j00t sells Jow Forums >governments around the world start doing janky shit >g00k changes site name to 4channel >this happens immediately after. is it time to go innawoods, faggots?
Why aren't Americans migrating out of their nergified hellhole with insane crime statistics? Because they can still live in relative comfort.
Lucas Mitchell
Isn't this a good thing? Keep those under 18 shitters off of social media. They'll probably get more support because of the whole softcore, self-distributed pizza on youtube too.
Samuel Cox
We will finally be able to pin a name to the biggest faggot in the world now. What a time we live in. What a time.
Elijah Cooper
>Oi u got a loicense for dat window? We used to have taxes for windows actually, that's why you see a lot of bricked up windows when someone posts bongladesh architecture The government literally taxed us for sunlight
Its pretty retarded, even for nonbrit like me... If this id retardation spreads its gona end ugly
Gavin Myers
Most of our crime is in the negroid containment zones like Baltimore.
Eli Diaz
i don't get the problem. you can still download your pr0n via torrent, like people normally do
Henry Evans
Torrent sites and places like Jow Forums are going to be considered "Obscene content" and sit within the porn ban umrella, you're not naive enough to think banning porn sites means only porn do you? What self respecting politician wouldn't push to ban as much as possible
lmao at yanks pretending this don't affect the commonwealth bitch countries and the FBI isn't the vector too
>based j00t
Lincoln Hall
The VPN endpoint won't be getting anything in cleartext if your connection is encrypted (except destination). VPNs encapsulate the traffic. They don't change the encryption.
Juan Young
(except destination).
who the fuck are you again?
Mason Sanchez
you know what I meant, you should know not to pleb up Jow Forums anymore than I do
Adrian Cooper
They’ll sell it as a way to secure commentary against foreign actors (monopolizing brainwashing for the msm)
Aiden Collins
Dont do it. Copyright trolls now highly active suing people for settlement cash
Connor Russell
Maybe people in this thread are overblowing it? They'll just block a few porn sites and call it a day
Ayden Wright
>SHIRLEY IT WILL WOAK THIS TOIME I SAY
Matthew Morgan
Sucks to live in the UK
Jack Taylor
t brainlet with no vision
Justin Brown
once a function like this is assigned to government it will be used more and more often
Tyler Roberts
Like how in the UK RIPA (password handover law) was used to catch terrorists, but then they started using it for other shit like monitoring what time people put bins out and fined them and stuff.
