/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Do I have a hardware failure? I don't think this is normal and it would explain why most of my programs won't start.

For what it's worth, I have a sound card and 2 disc drives that Speccy isn't seeing even though windows does.

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>Spectre and Meltdown and they've been caught in the wild long ago.
Not true, especially as contained in a vector targeted against "credit cards" as you said, but even if this were true Ryzen is also vulnerable to Spectre and Meltdown.

What is the best case for >200$

Has anyone ever bought a meme case?

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what is a good card for machine learning?

Update speccy if it isn't already. Might be time to reinstall Windows.

>but even if this were true Ryzen is also vulnerable to Spectre and Meltdown.
You lost any credibility you were trying to establish by posting that. Good job.
Ryzen (and ARM) were vulnerable to less than 20% of the vulnerabilities, all very very minor ones which were easier to fix with little to no performance impact.

Sounds like HDD failure

You should take advantage of nvidia's cuda with gpu support. tensor cores are designed for machine learning so any rtx card

I've been speculating for a while now how much longer my HDD would last, but I kept hearing I'd probably get another two years out of it. I built this machine at the beginning of '17, would it be dead already? Would the big earthquake last year have fucked it?

>stolen through Javascript on web pages with an Intel CPU
Doesn't happen, shithead

All the really good cases get price markups, which make them go over 200. I got the h500p mesh white at 150, but it's like 300 now. It's my favorite case

NZXT H700 comes in at under $200 but the H500 comes in at under 100 and handles full size ATX

Shaking and shock dramatically reduce the life of HDDs, especially if they are spinning when it happens.

Its a good idea to start backing up now

computerhope.com/issues/ch001091.htm

RTX 2060 it is then. 1660ti is out of stock

you have to be careful which h500 case you get, since some can be ovens (without modding), while some can be best in their class

>with little to no performance impact
Meme

react-etc.net/entry/exploiting-speculative-execution-meltdown-spectre-via-javascript
The exploits are only theoretical, but
>The issue affects Intel CPUs broadly, but also AMD and various ARM processors are suspect to a similar attack
>and in general the lucky aspect is that the flaw is so low level that it is not trivial to exploit it to gain access to passwords or other sensitive data on a large scale.
>most browsers are now evergreen (auto-updating) which means fixes will be applied to contemporary devices in active use

noob here. once more servers start switching to amd for the cost/scaling benefit isn't there more incentives to find ZDs?

I have no idea so I'm actually asking.

Spectre and meltdpwn originate from a research paper so the incentive for discovering them isn't related to market share. However, the research has influenced others in finding vulnerabilities based on market share

Mine works well, radiator on front, exhaust on top and rear.

That's fair. I own the p mesh white so I don't have any firsthand experience with the h500

Why spend 300 more for a 2080 with only more cuda cores when a 2070 performs almost the same?

>are suspect to a similar attack
Nice job admitting you're wrong while pretending you're right.

Yes. But Zen was designed to be more secure than *lake.
The majority of these vulnerabilities have been related to the combination of speculative execution with Intel's ghetto HT implementation. AFAIK, AMD licensed their SMT from IBM and it's proper.
The other is exploiting page tables, of which AMD's is more secure. Zen just doesn't have these issues. Nor did their previous archs, while some of Intel's vulnerabilities go all the way back to Pentium 3.

From what I can gather, no one is buying Xeon in enterprise anymore except those who already had contracts from years ago which they were locked into and for some very specific cases using AVX512 and such.
I guess that's why you have so many people who will shill such broken CPUs; enterprise buyers are smart enough to not purchase them so all Intel can do is trick retarded gamers into buying them.

What's a good SSD for under $110
size can be 250 but not lower, and performance wise I'm looking for the best in that price range

crucial is 500 for 70, but you might be able to find a better deal
pcpartpicker.com/product/fgZFf7/crucial-mx500-500gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ct500mx500ssd4

wait m2 or sata

new build has quiet coil whine from the psu. should I return it or is this something I just have to live with?

if it's a dealbreaker get a be quiet

SATA, but My motherboard can also use M2 but I think that would be a little out of my range

But I am right. In fact you're the one who's been making false claim after false claim after false claim

I have an i5-4690k. I'm interested in a CPU upgrade but the only option for my platform is to get an i7-4790k. I just don't feel assed to sell my entire i5, Z97 Mobo and 12 GB of RAM just to get a completely new Intel or ryzen platform. It's a sad state of affairs when outdated CPUs cost more than new ones.

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sorry fren, but the only ones i'd reccomend are in the 70 range

That's alrighty and Thank you for the help

Reminder that this is the guy that openly admits that Radeon 7 is far better than the 2080.

pcpartpicker.com/list/yCyrjy

Revised planned first-time PC build. Didnt decide on monitor yet. Look good?

all variants that affected AMD were fixed within a week.
>144fps in rainbow six
assuming you mean Tom Clancy's™ Rainbow Six ® Siege, you can hit 144 with a fucking rx 570 with competitive graphics settings. I know anyone playing that game seriously has almost everything on low / turned down; no one plays these things with ULTRA settings if they're trying to win.
i5-8400 is dogshit anyway, you should've got a 9900k.

MB Asus Maximus XI Hero has a shit ton of coil whine while stressing the i9. More so when OC. Is that supposed to happen ?

There's also i7 5775C for Z97. It's pretty awesome, but quite rare and expensive (but if you're lucky you can snatch one for ~200$).
Another tricky option is adapted for 1150 5950HQ. ~$175. Look for it on ebay (it may not work on all mobos tho)
Realistically i5-4690k isn't that outdated yet. Push it to 4.5 or something and look for a nice deal in the meantime (4790k were like $180 on aliexpress). i7 for 1150 could probably last for 5+ years more if you're not into 120+ fps.
And get 4 more GB of ram. I'm not even sure if 12 GB works in double channel.

will a 1070ti do okay with 1440p 144hz if I play stuff like elite dangerous?

what is the best hotas for under 250$

>pcpartpicker.com/list/yCyrjy
I would change the motherboard to the msi tomahawk or pro carbon, buy a cpu cooler (the 2600 stock cpu fan isn't that great if you want to oc at or above 4.0 ghz), and look into the case. To be fair, you shouldn't have to worry about temps too much since your build should run somewhat cool, but I would go with the fractal design focus g since the prices of the two cases are identical (in my country)

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It says its in dual channel on cpu-z. i guess it is?

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You can also get the 4770K, anyway auctions generally go for less. Click the "Sold" checkbox in the ebay filters

Decent, but the SSD is pretty small. Also check on userbenchmark.ssd to see whether it's actually any faster than a HDD

>all variants that affected AMD were fixed within a week.
'no'

Check benchmarks for yourself

Here's what I would do monitor included
pcpartpicker.com/list/Dd6ZTB
You get the XFA240 monitor since it has gsync support while also being relatively cheap

I want to move my PC into a bigger case so I can slowly begin to upgrade it, what's a good budget option? Also thoughts on used graphics cards? intel vs AMD? Any help would be appreciated. Pic related is my current prebuilt.

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And by principle

case, I'd look at either the NZXT H500, Cooler Master MB500, or Cooler Master Masterbox K500

GPU. Do you want the ethical choice or performance choice?

I would put some money into a case, you will probably use the same one for several builds, you can always drop your shit into a 50$ case if you want to sell it or give it to a relative when you're done with it. I personally like corsair and silverstone cases the most but they are pretty pricey, a lot of people here seem to like nzxt. Just remember when picking a case your hardware has to fit and your case I/Os have to reach your board. Most heating issues can be overcome with moar fans and a lot of it comes down to what you want to look at.

Right now AMD is a much better value than intel and the am4 socket looks like it will have some longevity.

Used graphic cards are a hit or miss type thing, I've had ones that have lasted years and some that lasted only months. The thing with used is you never know it was just used lightly, in a mining rig, if someone tuned the shit out of it, or if someone baked it.

I chose that motherboard specifically because it has built in wifi. I cant do ethernet atm.

give me both plz

If I'm not going used what would be a good AMD card that's somewhat budget? I just want to be able to achieve ps4 levels maybe a bit better

is this any good? newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167462&ignorebbr=1

Oh. You could get a wifi adapter on an overclocking mobo if you plan on overclocking. The mobo you chose isn't very good for ocing, but if you don't plan on ocing then your build is actually fine on its own. I would stilll get the monitor I recommended especially since you will have less fps at 3.4 instead of 4 ghs

Yeah, but I'm not sure how hot it'll get (throttling). Check reviews.

RX 570 8GB

It's a pretty narrow spectrum right now on videocards, amd will have new stuff in july and that should shake up pricing a bit. Some things to consider, the amount you need to spend on a videocard is directly proportional to the monitor you're using. Also when deciding keep in mind that amd uses freesync which doesn't require a license and nvidia uses something proprietary called gsync that adds 30% or so to the monitor cost.

Ethical bang for the buck choice: AMD Radeon RX Vega 56

Performance bang for the buck choice: Nvidia RTX 2060

If you care about ethical business practices, AMD has kept its nose fairly clean. AMD does not do shady business deals or enforce anti-consumer or anti-competition business practices. That is left to Intel or Nvidia. Intel's rap sheet is longer than Nvidia's, but Nvidia is no angel either. Look up the recent anti-consumer fiasco with Nvidia's Geforce Partner Program (GPP), and you'll get an idea of the bullshit they push on consumer besides overcharging for everything and raising prices for the same level of performance.

I like to think of it this way with the GPU wars. Nvidia is the current American political establishment. AMD is like Bernie Sanders and the Justice Democrats - calling for a revolution to how things are done. AMD's own marketing has reflected this. Pic related.

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Is it worth OCing? I've never done it before.

Also, why is the mobo I chose not good for ocing?

No. The chipset does it for you. Anyone who says otherwise is a retarded boomer that can't let go of the past.

t. boomer that tried to overclock it and an oc board and got awful returns

>no proof of concept in either processors
>meme

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Thanks, I will pick the 2060 then

it's worth noting the Vega 56 and 2060 tend to trade blows depending on the game.

In all honesty, you don't necessarily need to overclock for a good gaming experience. However, if you feel like your pc needs a slight boost in order to have an enjoyable experience, ocing is a good option to have. the 2600 can beat an i5 8400 overclocked, but can't otherwise. So if you don't want to overclock, you may want to look at the i5 and an intel motherboard that supports wifi. Although you can't go wrong with the 2600 imo

>security doesn't matter

I have a 128GB chink SSD that review after review say dies after a month. If I got a 240 GB SSD that isn't from the chinks, can I RAID 1 them together without problems?

>shilling intel housefires in the OP

You'd have to do raid 0

Why? Can't I create a 128 GB partition on the larger drive for raid 1?

What are some good monitors for 1080p 144hz? i've heard Acer and aoc are both trash

>i'm just pretending to be retarded
Oh wait, actually you are retarded.

Why don't you post your question in here if you get triggered by intel
unless you don't have a question and you're the petty tripfag who had to make their own thread

I was wondering if anyone could point me to a thorough resource(s) I could read. I built one computer before, but I realized I still barely know anything about them. Some examples of stuff I need to know are when to choose powerful single-core CPUs over CPUs with multi-core emphasis, what a CPU thread is, what RAM MHz affects, information about buying separate heatsinks and when I'd need to buy one over sticking with stock, etc.

single core CPUs don't exist anymore. Literally no one makes them anymore. Even phones use 8 core chips these days.

I mean CPUs with better single-core performance. For example, my current computer is a 3.3 GHz 6-core that does not run Dolphin emulation well.

Don't create duplicate threads, shithead.

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>information about buying separate heatsinks and when I'd need to buy one over sticking with stock
some CPUs come with heatsinks so that you don't have to buy a separate one
these heatsinks can be loud and not very effective if you're looking to overclock
you want to buy a separate heatsink if you're looking to overclock, if the temperatures with stock heatsink are bad, or if you just prefer a quieter solution.

viotek if you want the boom boom pow chink shit

Ah. That would be talking about IPC (instructions per clock cycle) performance then. Intel currently has the lead, but it's only a 3% lead when both chips are at the same clock speed.
AMD is promising a 15% IPC increase with the new Zen 2 chips, which would give them the lead.
youtube.com/watch?v=doGp5LI6igg

pcpartpicker.com/list/pX9Nhy
you guys got any improvements for me?

I plan on using the same SSD's from my old build to my new one, is there any way to transfer W10
with it, I dont want to pay for it.

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yea. Switch to AMD Ryzen

I remember with Windows 7 you could call a number which would deactivate your current Windows installation, allowing you to use the same activation code on your new PC.

The paper did not try any 9xxx CPU. Wait until someone does the test or volunteer before jumping to conclusions.

look into switching the windows 10 license from your actual hardware to your microsoft account.

monitor looks like cheap shit
buy a $5 windows key from ebay instead
spend a little more for 9700k

if you buy the blue version of that memory you can save 4 dollars

pcpartpicker.com/product/Ntp323/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15b

>8700k at 4ghz
yeah totally fair benchmark right there, you have to downclock it to get that low

>>yeah totally fair benchmark right there,
Well they're testing the IPC and not the actual performance

The point is that an IPC comparison is only legitimate when both chips are at the same clockspeed.
Zen 2 will hit 5.0 Ghz if you want a 5 Ghz comparison later this year.

pcpartpicker.com/list/8DQ2cY

pls r8, no h8

>Zen 2 will hit 5.0 Ghz if you want a 5 Ghz comparison later this year.
kek imagine actually believing this