Cable management is the biggest meme and technology...

Cable management is the biggest meme and technology. Unless you are building a computer or working on commercial switches, there is literally no point to cable tie every single freaking wire that you use. It just makes it a pain in the ass to work on later.

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Yes.

No.

Maybe.

But then you'll look like a poorfag. You don't want people to think you don't make 6 figures, right?

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I mean, it counts towards normal organization if you care about that... It looks neater an makes it easier to clean if your cables aren't all over the place. Are you retarded?

Heat. Management.
Fucking moron.

Well yes, you just tie/route sufficient cables in channels that it's not hard to untangle or reroute and sufficiently aesthetically pleasing.

Or you're just not a sloppy mother fucker and actually like your home/office looking nice. Also how the fuck does velcro sticky pads make it harder to work on later you retard.

lmao did OP strike a nerve?

It's painlessly obvious you guys haven't worked on anything other than the inside of a computer. Again, if no one is going to see the wiring (inside of commercial electronics) there is no point to cable management. Heat management isn't an issue at all, again, I'm not talking about building PCs.

Get back to me when you have had to cut 15 cable ties to replace a wire inside an faulty ATM.

Cable management is fine and makes everything look nice, cable ties are the cancer. Velcro wraps all day.

Inside crappy monopoly appliances which I assume ATM to also be, they're surely half used to keep the cables from ripping out giant scattered pieces of craptastic electronics barely attached to poorly machined structures?

They probably know trucker man and the guy who kicks them into the narrow opening where they need to be will break everything otherwise.

I've installed security systems, video systems both coax and IP, and fire alarm install. Not only is bad cable management a code violation right off the bat, but have you ever tried diagnosing an issue with an electrical system like that? If everything is labeled and zip tied its a breeze, if it's a fucking rats nest it could take me days to locate a simple short.
Do it right the first time and spend some extra money and labor, and save yourself a ton of headache in the long run.

But you don't work in this field so clearly you wouldn't know that.

>putting cable ties where regular maintenance is necessary
There's your real problem.

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ATMs are fucking weird dude, it's really like a fucking dell PC embedded into the chassis with some special video in and out, backup cell card and fuckhuge power supply. An install consists of the dumbass loaders dropping and bolting it in, the ATM vendor who is usually some sort of sysadmin for the POS system, and the alarm guy (me)

They are designed horribly, to cramped to actually work in, made entirely out of sharp as fuck metal and stuffed with shitty exposed chink board with tiny low voltage wires everywhere and zip ties along with plastic wire tubing.

What's worse than cables ties, is Velcro cut /exactly/ the length to wrap what cables are there. Adding in one cable and not being able to reuse the velcro sucks ass

But I do work in your industry and agree with everything you've said. When it's a code to have proper management, obviously it is necessary.

But I'm talking about when it's not necessary. Like a few wires behind digital signage at a casino or something and you have to replace a media player but the damn thing is a cable tie casserole.

Yea, basically exactly as expected. Upsetting examples of dumb fucking shit designs.

t. has never had to try and troubleshoot a rack of servers administered by people with exactly this mindset

Cable management may be a meme for desktops but once you have a full data center it's absolutely essential.

>It just makes it a pain in the ass to work on later.
Why would you be working on it later?

At least you can FIND the cable you need to replace because it is routed in a set path.

Why buy a cow when you can get milk for free?

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Trips wasted on a brainlet post. OP explicitly stated commercial was excluded.

>the absolute state of fucking miners.

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