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post your overpowered plex/NAS box here Jow Forums

>pic unrelated
>qotom i5 + pfsense network appliance
>R710 under proxmox with freenas ZFS, ~10TB usable, and a bunch of VMs

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what kind of VMs u running on proxmox i got pfsense and OMV, looking to add more stuff to experiment with

communist fag

freenas and centos 7 are the big ones running all the services I use. centos running a vpn client with an HTTP proxy to encrypt non-encrypted network traffic. pihole running in an LXC which routes through pfsense's encrypted DNS resolver. also one VM behind another VPN w/firewalled no leak traffic for torrenting, and a bunch just for testing distros and stuff.

I also just switched from openWRT to pfsense too and I'm liking it a lot. I liked how customizable openWRT was but it could get overwhelming at times. I'm getting lazier with time and just want a drag and drop GUI like pfsense has.

I used to have a Xeon server with ecc and RAID10 ssds dual nics, but all use now is a raspberry pi 3. you dont need all that hardware for basic automation and some daemons. Data horders need maybe a NAS but honestly, jewish media is not very fulfilling and i find just having some media on my laptop is all i really need.
so my home server is pic related. runs vpn, voip, xmpp, web server, and more.

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about the vpn client, i was thinking on setting up openvpn server on a vps/client on pfsense and use it to expose stuff (plex,..) in my homelab through that, think it'll work?

do you work in tech? homelabbing is a hobby for me at this point but the deeper I get into it at work, the less I want to at home.

Yes, I do. But I subscribe to tech minimalism where I can and I find that helps me not be tied down to maintaining stuff in my free time or life. a Pi is easy to run and is so low cost. Once the services are setup on a stable OS, they run forever. I own one PC, my laptop, and use my pi as a server.

it'll work no doubt, but you'll probably want good hardware and run on non-standard ports. if you have a vpn going from your home machine to a vps, and connecting externally to the vps - then you will probably have some bottle necks in encryption and latency if you don't have good hardware (ex: AES-NI capable chip, a good vps provider, etc).

the networking would be a nightmare too, but it would work. it'd be easier just to open a port on your home setup and trust pfsense to protect you.

problem is i can't get static ip at home bcz of 3rd word IPS, i can't even DMZ pfsense cause of this shitty IPS router i can't change

I'd probably host everything you need to serve externally on the vps then if that's the case, it would be a pain to upload if you have a lot of plex media though. trying to route through multiple VPN points is a networking nightmare.

What does /hsg/ recommend for securing a home network against power outages?

ddns
a banana. are you dumb or lazy? use a low power cpu and a ups, mongrel.

I'm asking for UPS recommendations.

>runs vpn, voip, xmpp, web server, and more.
Care to give more details for a brainlet?

hello raspberry pi general!

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That's a nice rack.
My home server is just a desktop case with an i5 running debian
31 TB of usable space, I was going to set up ZFS at some point but am too lazy so I just use snapraid.

> you dont need all that hardware
you do, pic related is all flash vSAN btw

>so low cost
So what you're saying is that you're poor

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my actual rack is just pic related, I don't have the electrical for something like in the OP pic. had to buy extenders for the back of the R710 (on rails).

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HOME server general faggot, not data center general

Is this better?

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>but all use now is a raspberry pi 3.
Yeah I'm not giving up my server for that
>100mbps networking
>no hard drives
>no nothing
>useless

Flash storage for the OS + whatever data files needed. If you want to archive porn and send it in packets over the network, it'll still get the job done. Just attach a hard drive to the USB port and you get enough throughput for 1080p streaming (not transcoding). But do you really need a fucking NAS system for your home media sedation? Not really. I use the hard drive in my personal computer for media.
I'm poor for not dumping cash into unnecessary hardware that depreciates in value quicker than any other asset you could possibly buy? Nice talkin' to you.
On a $40 dollar pi, you can run raspbian lite and run all of those services on a ARM64v7 CPU. OpenVPN for accessing your home network, Prosody XMPP for messaging chat (or IRC), Mumble for VOIP communications, transmission-daemon for seeding torrents of linux distros or other p2p content, Apache for web server and services. If you host dynamic websites like wordpress or databases with lots of writes, you may be reaching a bottleneck with the storage. I would suggest starting on a low cost efficient computer and seeing if it suits your demand and expanding when you start reaching bottlenecks. You'll be surprised what you can do with good programs and some basic hardware. You don't need server racks and enterprise hardware to run a home server unless you're running a serious business enterprise from your machines in your home.
Pic related, running these services off of this system.

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>i run a server
>which only uses 66mb of ram
you're running jack shit

I'm thinking of getting a rugged portable rack

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Looking to make a server for plex and network storage. Will i need decent hardware or will an old core 2 or raspberry pi 3 work?

I've already listed everything I run. I just keep things efficient and lightweight. Its really not that hard. The RAM usage is surprisingly low, but its true. There are plenty of good tutorials online on how to use a Linux without a desktop environment. Thats where most of the memory savings comes from. Most of these daemons just pass TCP/IP packets to other addresses. Not much to be cached besides torrents sometimes. Think it through and it ends up making sense.

you're literally doing jackshit with it if it is only using 66mb ram

Pi3 won't work for PLEX if you're looking to transcode. I've heard people being able to transcode on Pi3 with one plex client with limited settings. I would go for beefier hardware if you're set on transcoding.
However, consider using a VPN+NFS network shares instead (and Kodi if you need a front end interface). Plex is a proprietary closed source program that has made some dumb decisions in the pass. They implement login on home servers and include logins for google, facebook, which is silly. Plex has tried to implement analytics before too. I used to be a Lifetime Plex Pass user but sold my pass and quit using the service.
If you drop transcoding, which I found is pretty easy to do, you can get away with using significantly lower hardware. If its network storage focused, and you need gigabit speeds, don't use the Pi3. The USB2.0 and Ethernet speeds are not good. I think I've seen transfer speeds of around 10MB/s reported from other users. You can get away with that if you know your use case and its acceptable, but if you want to build a network storage device, you should look at something that has SATA3, USB3, or PCIe

I want to make an ESXi box that runs my windows plex server, Freenas, and some other stuff. Is a Ryzen 2600 enough?

You're just repeating yourself

>Communist stickers
>Gear designed and manufactured by capitalist mega corps in sweaty chinese shitholes

nice meme

Most likely. But we don't know your utilization of virtualization resources, so you have to determine if 6core 12thread is enough for you. For PLEX and network transfers, it sounds acceptable.

Well, it wouldn't be so cheap if it wasn't for the brutal authoritarian communist regime that makes all that sweatshop misery and suffering possible. Maybe he's just supportive of that aspect of communism?

Who Kubernetes here?

Where should I start if I want to learn more about servers and how to set up my own?

Just do it? What do you want to setup? Have anything you run constantly on your laptop/desktop that you could benefit from it running elsewhere such as a vpn.

Setup a static IP on your network. Run a mumble server for your LAN, try setting up Apache and doing a basic HTML site. Then Get a domain name, look into dynamic DNS, and learn to foward ports from your router to your server. Just take it a step at a time and try new projects.

It doesnt matter, you're doing literally jack shit on that box.

A server is like a truck. You need a reason for it. Come up with a simple task you want your server to do, then make baby steps towards it. Here are some examples:

- Basic file site
- Plex / Media server
- SSH
- VPN

In terms of networking, making it work on your LAN first, then work your way out to remote access.

I've always wanted one but it's a bit expensive and wide for my current space/budget

depends on the hardware you get. if you get an actual rack mount server you'll need to know a bit more since they have specialized hardware. if you just get a tower/normal case it's not much different than running standard linux services.

Best place to buy used/refurbished server hardware and any recommendations on what to get?
My old PC with a dual core CPU is barely enough for plex transcoding and I want to setup a VM or two.

why do you need all this, what could you possibly need 20 cat five cable connected back and forth between in a home

i have a wifi router and NAS, what else do i need and why

ebay, look for supermicro equipment. it is retarded to buy hp/dell/whatever because you cant upgrade the motherboards

>why would you want to increase your skills
let me guess, you dont work in IT or fell for the college meme

honestly I have no idea. the people with setups like this are usually autistic data hoarders, I am perfectly content with a single R710 that has enough power to power basically anything my small mind can come up with.

based gommiebro

>>why would you want to increase your skills
does setting up 2 pieces of rack equipment one time really increase your marketability?

>honestly I have no idea. the people with setups like this are usually autistic data hoarders, I am perfectly content with a single R710 that has enough power to power basically anything my small mind can come up with.
if I could figure out what use I would get out of it I would not mind having a rack server in my home for nerd bragging rights, but i have zero idea what i would do with it or how it would benefit me past an NAS

>why do you need all this, what could you possibly need 20 cat five cable connected back and forth between in a home
this

wtf, also why are there so many antennas?

nigger my home environment is more redundant and segemented than any of my customers environments, i have 8 DNS servers for fucks sakes.

>nigger my home environment is more redundant and segemented than any of my customers environments, i have 8 DNS servers for fucks sakes.
why do you even need one

Because i'm not some retard who wants google, cloudflare or his ISP to spy on him and who wants DNS names for their internal computers

your isp can see when you go to the site anyway

what benefit do you get out of having a secret dns

>i cant setup vlans
>i cant setup routes
>i dont know what vpns or tor is

Hi.

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did you put a computer in your computer?

I do run a lot of services (including plex/NAS) on my R710, including a postgres database and a blockchain node. I also encrypt all my outgoing traffic. so I personally need a slick firewall and a good deal of horsepower (and I'm still not utilizing 100%), but I still don't need the level of OPs pic or that faggot bixnood.net that likes to invade these threads. if you don't have a need for extra horsepower, then you don't, but some people do.

So that's why you overcompensate with 8 dns servers. Gotcha.

Do you also have two PSUs in there?

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Was randomly given these, anything interesting I could do with them?

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>HP G380s

Does it sound like a helicopter is taking off?

Two (2.0) 1080's?

x86 is for plebs, I can't wait to install gentoo on here.

I'm planning on expanding my storage from 5x5TB to 5x8TB, but I can't non-destructively change the capacity of my disks.

How would /HSG/ go about this?

Uh, you buy the 8tb drives and put them into an array that you can change the next time around, then you move files.

Maybe use snapraid or something that will do 5x5tb+3x8tb+2x8tb parity or something.

>hello raspberry pi general!
All I see is someone wasting tons of energy achieving not much more.
Unless you have more than 100Mbit/s upload the raspberry is fine.
And even the 3b+ is sufficient up to about 300Mbit/s
And then any RK3399 can saturate a 1Gbit/s connection easily.

Installed pi hole in my network, can recommend me any good filter list sources?

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Just copy all the host filter lists from ublock or adaway.

I have a bunch of systems, but none I can spare for data migration.

I guess temporarily detaching drives followed by a data migration is my best bet.

Sure, I'll take it. But at that point you still only need 1 DNS server.

one dns server is plenty

as I've suspected, you're wasting a lot of power essentially for nothing more than bragging on Jow Forums

I'd add the drives to my btrfs pool, tell it to rebalance, wait for it to finish and remove the old drives

It's not difficult

I moved from 200W@idle dual xeon sas/raid5 Dell server to $10 chink orange pi zero+expansion module, 2x1TB 2.5hdd with chink uasp adapters, samsung evo microsd as sys drive Power draw is 3W@idle. It does everything big server did, io speed is slower but I'm still on 100mbit network so don't care, drives are getting 40mb/s over usb2.0.

My current server is an old dell laptop. I run plex, radarr + sonarr, portainer, transmission-vpn in docker containers. I want to add cloud abilities to replace google drive, I was thinking nextcloud with access via a VPN for security. I don't need to transcode via plex, as I only really watch stuff when I'm at home over my LAN. Is this all doable via a Pi or do I need something with a bit more power/speed?

>jewish media is not very fulfilling
this

my hardware just sits around and gathers dust because hording ain't fun no more. there hasn't been anything good to watch in years, bet it jewish media or chink media. i'm sitting on thousands of jewros of hardware that's just idling mostly .. feels bad man

What's the best (and cheapest) way to get plex from a pi to a tv and ensure it doesn't have to transcode?

New build splitting prod (home) and dev (all the other things).

Prod:
Dell PowerEdge T110 ii
Xeon E2-1230 v2
32GB RAM
2x 240GB SSD (OS) - S100
8x 3TB SAS (DATA) - H700
2x 4TB USB (Backup on even / odd rotation)
Mellanox CX3 FDR InfiniBand
Server 2016 Essentials (because reasons)

Dell PowerEdge T110 ii
Xeon E3-1220
16GB RAM
4x 2TB SATA (RAID 10)
Server 2016 Standard
Used for device emulation and targeting for SCCM / Intune.

Dell Precision T1700
i7 4770
16GB RAM
128GB SSD
Mellanox CX3 FDR InfiniBand
Windows 10
Plex

Asus TinkerBoard (2 of these)
64GB micro-SD card
Raspbian + OpenHAB
Raspbian + JMRI

DEV:
Dell PowerEdge R710 (4 of these)
2x Xeon 5660
144GB RAM
2x 500GB SSD (onboard SATA
6x 3TB SAS (H200 in IT mode)
64GB mSATA SSD (on PCI-e 1x card)
Mellanox CX2 10GB

Dell PowerEdge R810 (4 of these)
4x Xeon E7-4870
256GB RAM
6x 900GB SAS
Mellanox CX3 FDR InfiniBand

DEV stays off unless I'm testing a stack build. I'd upgrade PROD but there's no need. It does it's job and the money is better spent elsewhere.

Not 100% sure what you are asking, but the Plex client / streaming box that accepts the most formats and handles everything best is currently the nVidia Shield, then AppleTV is second best.

A major advantage of the nVidia Shield though is that it can also act as the Plex server. I have a 10TB external plugged into my Shield and it runs the Plex server for me. I end up just streaming locally which is great.

rackmount equipment and racks in general are a huge waste of space and a meme. i have a dell VRTX in tower config that just sits under my desk.

does this general have a pastebin?

This is a very common phenomena. For instance, strippers often find it hard to get enthused about being sexy at home. You do it all day at work, why would you want to continue doing it at home? Whats so great about home servers is you can do anything you want. If you do a lot of VM work during the day, teach yourself networking at home. Its a great place to learn more.

But that doesn't look as cool. In all honesty you're right - if you can accomplish you goals with a tower, or a raspberry pi, go for it. They are just as much servers as a rack full of stuff (like mine, pic related). It all depends on your goals. I wanted to learn about virtual machines and try out ZFS with ECC ram for my data hoard. Its not noisy and was relatively cheap and I got the rack for free. The only thing racks are really nice for is cable management and just keeping everything contained. I used to have servers spread out all over the place, now I've got all my stuff in one easy to organize portable closet on wheels. Whatever works for you is best for you.

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Heres one I made a couple weeks ago. Feel free to modify/improve on it.
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Attach the Pi to the TV. If it sucks (as it usually always does), get a Rock64Pro or something instead and attach that.

If you can't put it near the TV for networking reasons (probably because you'd like your NAS to be wired but there is no wire to the TV and you don't have fast enough powerline / wlan), I guess you can install a chinese HTPC for $25-80 as receiver, or if you're REALLY desperate a chromecast / miracast receiver.

You can gradually transfer data to SnapRAID or mdadm RAID or such (and expand the managed array drive by drive, though that is not a super fast process).

But if the 5x5TB old drives were in an array before, I imagine you need at least 3-4 of them online to use them even in a degraded array, meaning you'd need at least 3-4 ports anyhow.

Perhaps you just want to order a SATA controller card or something so you can use more drives simultaneously?

Better off building a NAS machine from scratch, or buying from one of the main brands and just throwing a few HDDs into it?

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If those old 5x drives weren't in an array before but individual drives and snapraid is acceptable, it is extremely easy to do this.

Just add 1 or more of the 8TB drives as parity drive (and as many drives as fit on top of that as data drives). Then sync, replace 1x5TB drive, resync... and so on.

Depends. Rack I'm working on handles my audio/video, lighting controller, network, wifi, harmony hub, and has my fiber modem, etc. It's nice to have everything in one place. The rest of the house will have no electronics visible.

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Usually the earlier, but of course it depends on whether you can handle installing Linux/BSD or only can deal with some Web UI.

How many drives did you have in mind/what's the intended use?

Repairing Synology/QNAP/whatever readymade NAS is not going to be easy. They're riddiculously expensive for the amount of drives you can fit in them too. No way to upgrade them either and you're stuck with whatever piece of shit OS they give. Maybe it'll get updates, maybe it won't.

lighting controller, fiber modem, harmony hub

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mesh router and 10TB external that is connected to my nVidia shield for Plex.

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>rackmount equipment and racks in general are a huge waste of space
Rackmounts are almost all fairly space-efficient designs. Even if you're not going quite as far as pic related.

What wouldn't be space efficient is setting up a 19" 24U+ rack when you only need a 2 HDD cube computer, but that is pretty damn obvious.

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This is how I started to get into servers, scripting, Linux, and a few other things. Network dude by trade but now doing even cooler shit by mixing the two at work, like setting up services on multiple RHEL VMs and advertising anycast loopbacks (via BGP) based on the state of the service. Homelabbing pays dividends when you can reuse your experience at work.

Except when you have enough throughput that you need a legit firewall or router, use PoE access points and need to run fiber into your garage, and want that all on a UPS. At that point it made sense for me to get a rack since the same sq ft was going to be taken up in the basement with or without a rack, now it just looks cleaned and I have more vertical real estate to use without just stacking gear on other gear.

>xmpp
Are you in the Jow Forums MUC?
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Pull that disgusting plastic tape off the front

>pete
>recycling logo 1

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>depends on whether you can handle installing Linux/BSD
I use Linux daily so that wouldn't be an issue.
>How many drives did you have in mind/what's the intended use?
Probably just general storage, for media and such. I presume using it for VM storage for Proxmox on another server would be poor performance wise?
I don't really want to spend too much money at present so I'll probably just wait a year or two before I build one honestly. Already have a server sitting here for a year or two that I haven't got around to properly using.