Why do tech companies do this?

It's pretty much the same across all jobs and industries - human nature seems by default to be abusive, complacent, and broadly incapable. Mostly due to willful ignorance (how much can I get for as little effort as possible?)

My company is 20+ years old and has 10,000+ employees. Never had a layoff. But when projects get shut down the people move to other teams. They don't get fired.

That's why you should just look out for your own interests. Don't feel guilty about job hopping after a year and "abandoning" your team. They're not your kin, most of them probably aren't your friends or even associates. I'm glad job hopping is becoming more frequent. It'll eventually break the bullshit IP non-compete clauses too. I'm no commie but the workers really have to wake up and be ready to tell their bosses to suck cock if something doesn't sit right. Not literally of course, you should always leave politely but I mean there's no guilt in bailing out of a shithole when there's a slightly better one 20 minutes away offering a 15% raise. Too many boomers go on about MUH LOYALTY and MUH TEAM SPIRIT AND CULTURE, don't bother me with that gay ass faggy shit, it's cringe worthy as shit.

If you want to be a part of a community go volunteer at a soup kitchen or join a church where your values align, the job isn't the place for that sappy shit.

>thank you for laying me off
peak boomer

TWF Boomer in OP was a bad performer

Let me tell you about my first job when I was 18. I weaseled my way into a janitor company and did fuckall but the bare minimum, I was always hiding away in the supply closet playing phone games for hours.

They loved me. I was late almost every day, I doctored my log books, I barely knew how to run the simple equipment. I showed up to other stores when people quit or called off, I elected (even though the core team was your standard buddy-buddy crew of pirate shenanigans) for special projects though I'd never get that work.
I'm a typical asspie Jow Forums meme. Shit personal skills, but decent looks, and when I do do the work I do bust my ass and do it right. Youth and the image of discipline go a long way, til that youth is dried up at least.

I had an offer for a salaried position and junior management training. I had two store location managers try and take me with them to other jobs (in hindsight following one would probably have been the better choice for my life).
In short, it's really fucking hard to not get anywhere, and you have to be really unlucky to fail or find yourself in a rough spot in this country.

You're absolutely, sadly, correct.

(venting from some recent events here:)
It's worse with people who are your "friends"
After a certain age everyone gets jaded and so consumed by fear they'll throw you away for another dollar and just wait for a reason to cast you out as some "failure" to their ideals.
I've sicked the IRS, welfare fraud investigators, and immigration enforcement on people I supported with 100% of my heart who just turned around and threw me away when I had life problems.

Never fuck over people who know all your weaknesses and lies. What I learned in life is the only time people "get what they deserve" is when somebody who knows what they're up to does what is right.

Boomers on suicide watch

>western digital
>software department
that's why
nobody wants their bloatware.
and even if they did, its a cost center.
publish specs on the hardware and good software will be written spontaneously

>new c-level comes in
>fires the whole IT department and outsources to save money
>IT in the company goes to total shit
>c-level gets a bonus for saving the company money and bails
>new c-level comes in
>hires in-house IT staff
>IT in the company gets better, company is more productive
>c-level gets a bonus for improving productivity and bails
Rinse and repeat. People in this country actually believe they aren't being exploited.

What is controller firmware

>What is controller firmware
you really think that guy was the CTO of the firmware division?
bullshit
firmware is part of the hardware
software means, in this context, add-on shit like 'drive optimization software', cloning software, or some other marketing bloat that wastes cycles and sits in your system tray

>Never had a layoff
that in itself is unusual. 10000+ is the upper end of a medium size corporation or lower end of a big one, nothing to sneeze at. Also, a department would be at least several dozen people, up to a few hundred depending on how things are structured. I will say, any sort of project related business for me is dictated to me by my manager or my lead. The director doesn't even know I exist since my department is well over 100 people. The department seated next to us just had like 60-70 people laid off, almost all gone except a team of contractors who were probably there to replace the laid off employees.

Hell I've worked at smaller companies with big layoffs too. My entire team got laid off along with like half the floor I worked on at a company with a few thousand employees. One of the guys got hired by a bank and makes literally 2x the salary developing backend. He was a big fish in a little pond and whoever laid us off had no idea. Hell, most of us moved up, so I guess it technically worked out but it gives you an idea of how little regard the company has for you.

I never worked on a tech company, but I agree with the other anons: Don't fall for the corporation loyalty meme.
You're there for the same reason they are, to make money. The facade of friendship, camaraderie and all that shit they try to push is a lie. Be honest, do you thing, get your money and never sacrifice yourself for a company.

Why the fuck would you thank the company that just fired you? That is some next level cuckoldry right there.
Anyway he should #learntocode

HR has never been so easy! Just use Cinco e-HR.

My brother worked at a hundred million dollar company. After a takeover they instantly fired the entire upper management and their supporting staff, which included him as the financial man. Which resulted in nobody even knowing how the business was run anymore or knowing anything about the financial information. After they all were forced to leave the company basically crashed and burned.

muh job creators

Because it looks good to your future employer.

No it certainly does not. It looks just as ignorant to an interviewer as it does to you and I.

Not really. It shows you left on good terms. Nobody likes drama.

Welcome to the corporate tech world. Brown-nosing and sycophancy is how one gets ahead.

Just take a look at the absolutely rancid blogposts shared on Hackernews and Lobsters

I'm not even in the tech field and people get thrown out like garbage. Another common move is finding a reason to fire people a year or two before they're up for retirement. Scummy corporate bullshit happens everywhere

Here in Europe nobody fires anyone before retirement, because employers probably have to pay so much that they are covered until retirement.

THey're on the cutting edge of tech, clearly you've never been in the industry

Are they the $40 billion company that got screwed over by intel's fabs?

>What kind of idiot company lays off an entire department?
Depends on what the 'department' was.

The company I used to work for did this. The execs has looted the company by setting up targets and awarding themselves for achieving them. Trouble was they were fake targets.
So more han 1000 of us bit the dust.
Alnost all the experienced guys left. And the youngsters who could easily get another job.
Since then the company had drifted along with no sense of history.

>Rinse and repeat. People in this country actually believe they aren't being exploited.
What cunt? This isn't Jow Forums so I don't know where you're from and you don't know where I'm from.

Mass layoffs often accompany a change in management or ownership because the new bosses want to rebuild the company in their own "image".

>I'm no commie but

Sadly, the lesson was learned the hard way that under socialism you don't gain any more rights as a worker and will end up much worse off, including but not limited to starving to death in a labor camp.

Nobody likes being shown the door, then again if you had it that people were unfireable like they used to be at the unionized steel mill my grandfather worked in, that would be bad too since you have no way to get rid of useless incompetents.

The lesson learned is that the ultimate problem is human nature itself and neither capitalism nor socialism will fix man's desire to make as much easy money at others' expense.

>(((kohen))), aka Levite priest
His whole department was a Satanist cult.

best part is that CEOs who do this get millions in stock bonuses for cutting expenses
(stock cause it's a tax deduction for the company so they save money while taxevading while firing bunch of people!)

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losing a job is not the end of the world
>expecting to work at one place your entire life and for an institution to be infallible and not have to downsize
this is the problem

(((Cohen)))

>losing a job is not the end of the world
t. neet
>>>expecting to work at one place your entire life and for an institution to be infallible and not have to downsize
this is how it was for most of history

You can be one of the best people in your department but sometimes a new manager comes along who just doesn't like you very much for reasons known only to him. Or on the opposite side of the coin, the worst incompetent in the world is buddy-buddies with someone in management and he never gets fired and gets to retire comfortably at 60 with his pension.

approximately how long did it take the company to crash and burn? is the company still in business today?

>Following the closure of Thomson's Carmel, Indiana TV factory in 2006, where CRT tubes for televisions were produced, a fire was started intentionally by a laid-off worker at the plant.

You figure on average working for 40 years and then retiring. Well, 40 years is a long, long time and the world changes dramatically over that course. I mean, 40 years ago was 1978-79? That was back when the Soviet Union was still a thing and Space Invaders was the hot new video game.

>losing a job is not the end of the world
it is if you are over 40 and working in tech

>HR
>AI
Can literally be done by a bulletin board and some cubbies.

Who cares, the guy at the top who made the decision got a golden parachute and gets to add a few very impressive lines to his cv.

No, you just become the old guy that they have to bring in to maintain legacy COBOL codebases because the 25 year olds in the IT department don't know how that crap works.

Why do retards have to cry on social media after getting fired?

>Cohen
>needing to ask

>Brown-nosing and sycophancy is how one gets ahead

I told you in . It's ultimately all about making friends and connections. If you have those, you're just about untouchable.

I wonder what IBM et al will do when all the boomers are dead and nobody is left who knows 1970s COBOL programming.

Why are people so cucked thanking mega-corps for giving them a 9 to 5.

absolute beta

> No it certainly does not.
Well, it's better than have some rage fit BS posted in public. He's a top tier manager, not some Jow Forums warrior.

Your post is laughable. We live in the best time in history for capitalism. You don't like your job, you can quit and get another one at the company down the street, and you can ask them for more money.

>top tier manager
>laid off for incompetence in the best economy ever
pick one

>Director - System Software

He's middle management.

not just boomer, but American in general. 99% of middle to upper class people here are unapologetic corporate dick suckers

>best economy ever

>Cohen
Based WD sacking useless boomer nosebergs

>he doesn't make 500k a year as a senior software engineer

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either migrate those systems while they still have people that can program cobol, rebuild those systems from scratch in .net, or teach a bunch of people cobol in order to migrate those systems to .net.

Those systems will be completely incomprehensible and layered with thousands of half-assed undocumented patches.

The only thing that can be done with a system like that is either leave it the fuck alone or create thousands of tests for it, write a replacement from scratch which passes those tests and slowly migrate to the replacement.

>Too many boomers go on about MUH LOYALTY and MUH TEAM SPIRIT AND CULTURE
lolwut, the boomers were the ones who took the lead in disregarding corporate loyalty and team spirit. The only ones I ever see going on about it are managers who just spew marketing buzzwords because that's what their bosses told them to do, unless you count nostalgiafags complaining about how corporate loyalty is long gone.

I just checked an inflation calculator and $90k-$130k today is the equivalent of about $47k-$68k in 1990. No wonder they can't get good people with that. They should be offering $150k-$200k.

Ironically the ultimate form of communism is to become a cut throat capitalist. Funny how it works. "Communists" end up ingratiating themselves to the state, like dogs. "Capitalists" end up ingratiating themselves to the corporation who masquerades around as the "free market". If workers want power they need to look out for number 1 first and foremost. A world in which everyone is looking out for their own interests is going to be more equal than one in which we trust in supreme powers like they're God. I'm not saying there's no room for charity and sparing a thought for the unfortunate, but we need to abandon the idolatry.

They replace those guys too. I had a recruiter call me last year looking for a COBOL engineer. I said I don't know COBOL and it's a dead technology, she said it's fine it's still used everywhere and the company was willing to put me through training for a few weeks before even getting me hands on with their code. 80k starting. I still said no because I made about that much already and COBOL is a dead end anyway. Some companies are actively replacing it

based and redpilled

>COMPANIES SHOULDN"T BE ABLE TO FIRE ANYONE I SHOULD HAVE A JOB FOR LIFE

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>80k starting
even new grads start at 200k now

universal basic income is a basic human right

Hundred million dollars is honestly nothing in the business world. I’d be more impressed if it was a B +

k urself

racist

>They replace those guys too
Well yeah, you have to replace John al-Boomeristan when he literally dies of old age. You can't use a dead person to maintain codebases.

Or you know, the poor guy just wants to go golfing and enjoy his retirement instead of fucking with software written in 1978 that he probably doesn't even remember how it works anymore.

Anarcho-socialism is a fairy tale, if it could exist IRL, it would have already been tried. It can't exist because humans are inherently a social species and all social species of animals have dominant members of the group that rule over the rest.

>lolwut, the boomers were the ones who took the lead in disregarding corporate loyalty and team spirit
That was a thing for the WWII generation, not the boomers. "Part of the General Motors family for life." No, that was a fluke period in history.

sexist

>>>/tumblr/
Oh wait, the gnat-zees took it over

>>>/exitbag/

Generally speaking, as you get older you upgrade to management and the grunt work is left to young, low cost slaves who are more submissive and have tons and tons of energy to work 18 hour days and aren't yet married with a family to occupy their time.

Do you know that one of the engineers who worked on the Voyager probe was kept on the job until he was 80 and finally decided "Fuck this shit, I'm done." He held on as long as he did because nobody else knew how the thing worked and he loved the Voyager program like it was his child.

So inevitably he couldn't stay around forever and NASA had to put out bulletins asking for anyone brave enough to learn 1970s technology.

I've never really wanted to work in the 9 to 5 world because the idea of being cattle has never appealed to me. You need to be able to suppress your individuality and work as a cog in a machine and that's just not who I am.

fuck the patriarchy

>Anarcho-socialism
You don't need to tear down society. You just gotta stop worshiping the state and companies like the left and right in America do respectively. It's fundamentally a culture problem. Too many people still believe in company loyalty and shit and try to peddle it to new guys coming into the workforce too. Lefties loving the state speaks for itself

That's really a Japanese thing, not an American thing. Americans have always been kind of anti-corporation since the 19th century simply because the American mindset is individualistic and distrusts any entity that's too big and powerful.

>distrusts any entity that's too big and powerful
but Americans love big government and big tech

that's not how you spell ZOG

Maybe Americans in the 1950s, but that was a fluke period and the boomers revolted against it.

>as long as it's not as bad as Japan it's good!
>t. PR shill for massive corporation

Government workers in general are older than private sector workers because those jobs are essentially layoff-proof.

That's not at all what I said, you stupid...

I said that that the Japanese workforce has always been known to have ridiculous, almost Orwellian corporate loyalty and Americans have never been like that outside the post-WWII years.

Or well, not anymore. Since the economic collapse in the 90s young Japanese lost interest in being Mitsubishi and Panasonic's slaves and have tuned out and just fap to anime porn.