He doesn't use comfy BD-RE XL to back up data

None if my computers ever came with boy ray.

NSA already backup my data

>日本製
no thanks

Based! That's the way I do it, but for the videos I've taken. Now your files are safe for 40 years or more! Also, I've backed up my 2 main image folders from my phone onto one BD-RE DL. Too bad there're two directories with a shitton of files in them, so it takes time to load.

you actually don't need to protect any info you have

unless you are being sued by an angry old woman purposedly trying to fuck with you or something like that

They are bad as backup and even worse for archival.

too bad u can't get it back from em

LTO.

I'm not a fucking retard.

t. seething pajeet
The crappiest discs always come from India, the ones from Taiwan and Japan are of much higher quality, talking from experience.
Based
>porn
Sorry, not a cuck. Watching other men fuck women isn't quite my thing.
>None if my computers ever came with boy ray.
So you only use laptops or what? There's always a slot for that in desktop cases.

>Sorry, not a cuck. Watching other men fuck women isn't quite my thing.
You know what "porn" is, right?

Uh-oh here comes the asiaboo sir
Please go and stay go sir

I have about 100 BDR's filled with music. The problem is that the I/O is shit and unless you're sitting in front of a desk with the drive within your reach, shifting through the catalog is annoying as hell.

OP, at least tell me you're not backing up your data in plaintext.

hello hello...

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it seems to me that you have no idea what tapes are.
>Tape drives are expensive
optical discs expensive

I don't know why are you making so many false assumptions and why would you want to "watch movies" from your backup system?
You should read the faggot's post first, who woke up today and prolly saw some ad about unsold useless crap from 15 years ago and he then made the thread.

I believe that those institutes are surrounded by clueless idiots who store research data on tape drives. Jow Forums shows them that bluray is the way to go.
the consumerist shit I am reading here is surpassing the LED idiocy of the gaymers.

*Robotnik's voice* Bloody expensive
t. picrel
No, redpill me on porn. Though, in another thread on some other board, I don't bring degeneracy to the blessed Technology board.

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>Low compatibility, high price.
Not worth it, m8.

>if something is important store it on an email
Jesus fucking Christ, what type of animal subhuman are you?!

>porn
Is degenerate.

>optical discs expensive
A blu-ray burner doesn't cost $2000-3000. Tape drives are very efficient if you need to backup large quantities of data systematically, but it's too expensive for personal use.

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>I have about 100 BDR's filled with music.

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>Sorry, not a cuck. Watching other men fuck women isn't quite my thing.
The absolute fucking state of Jow Forums.

>Low compatibility
With fucking what? You can get an M-DISC DVD and it will be compatible with 99% of DVD drives and players. You can burn whatever movie to said dvd, watch it, die of old age and it's still gonna be perfectly playable, many centuries from now.

I also have +30TBs of HDDs.

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You can freely go back to r*ddit now, frogposter. Not all of us are poorfags who can't get a decent Blu-ray audio system.

Tapes are ideal when you can control the storage conditions.

I'm jelly now.
Fix it by telling me it's filled with bad encodes and xvid.
>a decent meme Blu-ray audio system

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ok, since the tape drive is too expensive and as a user you don't need to backup large quantities of data
than avoid wasting $100++ on a bluray drive and $50-80 per TB on discs and just buy an SSD or an HDD.
I don't see the purpose of this shitty thread.
I you want long term storage, why would you buy something that is already dead in this generation? Imagine waking up 20 years later and having a bluray disc and no drive to use it.
Also don't forget that the bd that op faggot posted are incompatible with most bd drives.
it's a fucking useless dead piece of crap for multiple reasons.

>everything I don't like is a meme
>HDD good
I thought you fags were worshipping SSD. Note: both SSD and HDD lose to discs in terms of longevity.

Sorry, FLACs and high bitrate 1080p rips. That's why I had to buy so much in the first place.

>100gb BD-RE XL: $68
>256gb microSD: $45
It's literally dead

You're saying you have over 2TB of FLAC files stuffed onto 100 blu ray discs?
That's ridiculous.

>both SSD and HDD lose to discs in terms of longevity.
Not if you keep them unplugged.
I'm red in the face with jealousy.

>most bd drives
Most BD drives that haven't updated since 2010. I've read this thing on 3 separate drives, and I have only one which explicitly does not support multi-layered blu-rays. If your drive has support for DL, it must also support XL, as extension of the format.

here, I have slightly more than 1TB backed up on 22 BD-R DLs.

Tapes are great only if you're trying to store snapshots of the entire Internet. Even if put up tapes against 10TB drives, you'll need to push past 120TBs in total storage just to break even.

SSDs are the best for programs and general computer usage.
HDDs are the most cost effective for on-line media storage.
M-disc is best for longevity.

Really though, the best way for any normal person to keep data is to just make regular backups to multiple external hard drives that are stored in different locations.

I use tape.

utter bullshit.
HDDs can retain data for decades.
If you have them working 24/7, companies give you 5 years of operation.
Typically HDDs can keep data for over 20 years.
SSDs are shit though.
Tape drives too. Those are projected for 30 years.

NO optical disc manufacturer can give you a warranty over 5 years.

>Typically HDDs can keep data for over 20 years
More if they are unplugged and in optimal conditions.

That's actually p cool.
I love music, but have basically failed at curating my own library. I've fallen and am currently 100% in the streaming meme.
I'd like to build my own local collection, but don't even know where to start.

That is correct. They're probably worth some pennies now that the major music torrent trackers are gone.

>What's your excuse?
I smoke. I simply do not trust any optical/laser shit medium.
>luky luke.jpg

[citation needed]
mcmedia.co.jp/enterprise/pdf/LifeTestSummaryVer1.pdf

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Hey guys look i found this relatively unknown product. Lets pretend that i use it so can looks cool on vietnamese image board. XD

>NO optical disc manufacturer can give you a warranty over 5 years
How many times have you come across disc rot with discs that have been stored indoors and haven't been used as a welcome mat? I haven't come across a single one, and the oldest CD's I got are from the early 90's.

gb BD-RE XL: $68
Where? Where I live BDXL is $29, stop with this overpricing memery.
>Not if you keep them unplugged.
Completely false! Pic related. You fags better prep your fridges to put SSD's there, because data vanishes over time since it's kept in form of electrons. When HDD's are left unplugged for long, sectors start swapping and there's nothing to correct it. Your data goes corrupt.

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Make up a good file sorting scheme, to keep shit organized and not a mess where you can't find shit. I use Artist/Year - Album title {Label Catalog number}/[Disc number if multiple discs].Tracknumber - Title (or Tracknumber - Artist - Title for compilations). You can automatize this with software, I use MusicBrainz Picard. Download stuff you want to listen to and your collection will add up as time goes on. Rutracker and Soulseek are your friends.

I listen to a lot of classical music, and I have gotten at least 400 albums from borrowing from my local library and ripping over the years. If your library has a good collection, it might be a good idea to get some use of it.

>When HDD's are left unplugged for long, sectors start swapping and there's nothing to correct it. Your data goes corrupt.
WHAT WHAT WHAAAT?

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I'm saving images to it right now.
>but don't even know where to start.
Get a disc like in OP pic or get a pack of BD-R DL's, then start burning. Separate discs by themes/albums/artists/whatever. It'll be great, I promise you.

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I think it would be really cool to start a public version of the private music trackers using something like your collection as a base.
Rent a bunch of servers with bitcoin to seed, admin them only over TOR.

Perhaps I'll do something like that if I have a bunch of extra time.

ERROR DETECTION AND CORRECTION CODES ARE A LIE! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!! AAAHHHH

I estimate that HDDs can last 10000,
they only use 1% of their magnetic field per 50 years. Basically, after 10k years, you'll only need a bit more sensitive reader.
almost all my CDs/DVDs are in terrible conditions as the plastic gets older and older.
some of them are a bit more than 20 years old.
Usually those that I have from companies like MS and Blizzard are the ones in still mint condition. all the blanks I bought and used them, are not the same quality as DiabloII discs or Windows XP/98 are.

>sectors start swapping and there's nothing to correct it
haha, what?

>What's your excuse?
I had other discs laying around

>Separate discs by themes/albums/artists/whatever. It'll be great, I promise you.
When I did the backup, I made a short hacky python script to generate csv spreadsheets of what was on what disc, and included the entire spreadsheet on every disc. I just put everything alphabetically to save effort.

SSDs, SD cards, etc, are bad for long term unpowered storage because of the way they work.
They store ones and zeros via electric charge in cells. Think of it like a giant ice cube tray with thin walls.
Over time, without the regular refreshes and maintenance that the drive does with power, the "water" (electric charge) will start to leak from one cell into another.
This process can happen in as little as a few months.

HDDs are a bit different. The magnetic charges on the platters will sometime swap with each other (not whole sectors), causing bit level corruption. They're also impacted by things like cosmic radiation, but over all, HDDs will probably retain data for 10 years if left unpowered. The biggest risk is that the motor or heads get physically stuck over time from not moving.

How do you discover more/new music along the lines that you like?
I've generally relied on making internet radio "stations" based on a song or artist that I like.

I'm quite good at data storage, but I just don't have any music downloaded.
I've got a ton of movies and shit stored because I never bought into the movie streaming meme, but never did that with music.

>get physically stuck over time from not moving.
Why would that happen if you have no humidity?

Blu-rays are not coated in the same way as CDs (well, there are commercially released music CDs in Japan that are like that called Blu-spec) or DVDs. I have 35 year old CDs that play without trouble.

Remember when last.fm was a thing? What happened?

That's actually pretty based. I once heard an user use the linux tree command, and save the tree in the main directory of his backup discs, if I understood properly. I've installed GNU/Linux twice, but it was KDE neon and on underpowered machines I rarely use.
>I never bought into the movie streaming meme
That's good. Never pay for something you can't own.
>Blu-spec
Aren't those CD's burnt with a BD burner? I think Techmoan did a video on that.

This thread was made by the /odg/ gang

So much cheaper to store on HDD

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>almost all my CDs/DVDs are in terrible conditions as the plastic gets older and older.
>some of them are a bit more than 20 years old.
I just checked my BD-R chest, the oldest ones in there are over 12 years old now. They're in completely mint condition.

Having said that, I bought them, spent several days filling them up, and then put them in that chest. I've opened it maybe a dozen times since. I'm thinking the reason your media has gone to shit is because of light / humidity exposure. Or maybe you bought some cheap shit. I bought high-end.

>How do you discover more/new music along the lines that you like?
Going by record label is nice for a lot of music genres. If you are looking for something more canonical, there are nice guides and lists out there for music genres.

I'm not actually sure about the Blu-spec stuff. They're just regular CDs and I don't think there's much durability difference compared the few old gold-coated CDs I own.

>Seagate
If you're hell-bent on wanting to lose your data you can just chuck your drives into the ocean.

>How do you discover more/new music along the lines that you like?
Wikipedia's great too (at least for jazz).

How much does a 128GB HDD cost? Or would cost, given the modern capacity?
For me, the BDXL disc cost $29, rather cheap. 128Gb flash drives are usually twice that price.

>Still posting outdated lies

backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-stats-for-2018/

KILL YOURSELF FAGGOT

Everyone migrated over to Spotify and the like, and Spotify has some social stuff built into it.

>becomes a clicking metronome after 4 days of usage

Just because they paid off some site this year, or got lucky last year, does not change the fact that causing massive data losses to your consumers by selling abhorrently shitty products MEANS YOU HAVE LOST THEIR TRUST.

They lied to people once already, what makes you think they won't do it again next year? In other words, how fucking dumb do you have to be to take the word of a liar just because his latest statement turned out to be true?

>yfw you start hearing that clicking, you check the SMART statuses, they're in the red, all your drives are full and you have no money for a new drive
Been there and lost that data.

Fuck Seagate.

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The smallest new hard drive you can economically buy is a 1TB drive for $50. You can get a 4TB drive for $100.
For $150, you can have 3 separate full backups of your data, stored in different locations. Update them every month or two, and you're basically assured data protection.

How much would that cost?

>*Robotnik's voice* Bloody expensive
Only the latest generation. If you go for current-1 it's cheaper, and -2 is even cheaper.

Right now for 256gb $50

thats where u wrong kiddo
*hax nsa*

about $150

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it was useless data anyway

This is just DC++ music hubs.

I am waiting for Hyper CD-Roms.

You mean you don't have at least 500tb of storage on your personal server?

>the major music torrent trackers are gone
Imagine being this retarded

Hold up let me get my ZX Spectrum out and test this theory real quick.
>Two hours of loading later
Yeah no, we still good. Operation Wolf is running great.
Two for you: Disc Rot.

Everyone knows ssds suck at retention. Even if we're talking about a few months SSDs are terrible.
Your retarded point about HDDs is complete and utter bullshit however and you should kill yourself

M-Disc > Tape, Hard Drive, SSD
EMP or Solar flare kills anything magnetic.
M-Disc uses a different mechanism than regular CD-R or DVD-R's that doesn't break down.

If you're that paranoid just put your disks inside a Faraday cage

And allow Google control of your information? The only real option is to buy an external hard drive, install VeraCrypt, and encrypt your data.
When Progressive Libtards begin inquisizing people over political beliefs, a simple encrypted password could prevent people from finding it.