Post your Retro pc

Just a generic Mitsumi AT keyboard, came with the 8088 system. Not mechanical, but it's still not bad to type on.

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The Compaq is a Bentium MMX 200 with 128MB of ram and a Voodoo 2, the whitebox is a Cyrix 486 but I have a few Intel and an AMD DX4 100 sitting around.Needs more ram since I can't even boot Doom. I have a P3 866 and a Voodoo3 as well but its not on this phone. 1/2

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I've been using a Casio PocketPC -first an E-100, later an E-125- since 2004. While I was on college, it help me write essays and get information (thanks to the off-line version of the CIA World Factbook). Nowadays I use it to hear music, watch movies and keep my appointments without having to share them with the rest of the world.

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I used it for the cover, i liked it.
Did not know what it is so thnx for the info :)

Not really retro but for a 2000-2005 games and programs pc use it mainly for testing older software and hardware.

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How hard has it been to keep that thing up and running? I have to imagine it must be hard to find batteries that still hold a charge at this point.

Not really. Sure, the original JK-210LT batteries are as dead as Madona's boobs, but you can find replacements on eBay, and I've been using those for almost 10 years now. They still hold about 75-80% of the charge.

And on the issue on how hard it has been keeping this PDA running, not that. It was a PocketPC, so it was almost a standalone product. Back in the day -as I said- I used it as a kind of laptop before I could buy myself a laptop, so I did sync it with a PC but just to get the news (on AvantGo) and transfer the files I had worked on in school to edit them or print them. After graduating and getting my Masters, I use it to program my schedule, so I just sync it -with the same computer, but now using a VM with Windows 98 since the host did the jump to XP->7->10- to have a backup of my activities, not because it is needed for the software to run.

PocketPCs were quite versatile and advanced, it is too bad that they're just a footnote on technology's history books.

is that comic sans?

it's a TeleVideo terminal, looks like a 950
6502-based

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I do the same but I usually end up going back to Palms, my weapon of choice for WinCE is a Jornada 680 or 548. I really want a good E-100 and E-115/125 for my collection though.
I've personally had pretty good luck with Pocket PCs and HPCs, but PSPCs seem like a shit shoot. Both my Aero 2100s are pretty dead, my Jornada 420 is great but the backup battery won't hold a charge anymore so it alerts you every 30 seconds. I only use it as a desk clock now.

rate mine

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The technology in CE handhelds was fantastic but the experience just wasn't quite there, it just felt sluggish. CE 3.0 and earlier especially also lacked a really great, fluid means of input like Graffiti that overall meant the system just couldn't match that "flow" you got with using a Palm.

But I personally love both for different purposes.

I need to know the model of that ISA extender. I have a fuckhuge industrial ISA backplane with 13 slots (and also 7 PCI slots, but those run off a completely separate bus) and I'd like to be able to use it. I don't really feel like cutting up two cards and soldering the ribbon cables to join them.

>off
>low
>normal
>occasional viewing
What do these settings do?

If you want it just for your collection, E-115's are a thing of beauty. E-100's mix of silver and cyan/blue just screams Early 2000s, and the E-125, while more subdued, doesn't match the charm the E-115 graphite colour buttons gives to the device.

But they're mostly the same, so if you manage to grab any of them, the only things you'll notice that changes are the OS (the E-100 runs WinCE 2.1, while the others run 3.0) and the amount of internal memory/storage (the E-100 and the E-115 have 16 megabytes; the E-125 has 32 megabytes).

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Don't have pics, but I do remember the specs.
Intel Celeron 400MHz Socket 370
128MB SDR RAM
Nvidia Riva TNT2 Pro
ECS P6BAP-ME
8.4GB Quantum Fireball HDD
TEAC-CD540E CD Drive

I designed them myself and had them printed at oshpark. lemme see if I can dig up the gerber files.
brightness probably, where "occasional viewing" will melt the microfiche if used for longer than a few minutes.

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What are you talking about? My brother had a Palm m125 with grafitti and we both hated that thing. Window CE's character recognition, besides being more natural (except for the numbers) was fairly accurate -when being on meetings, I still take notes on my E-125 and manage to keep up with almost no errors. And if I need to write faster or just get tired of writing, I can hop to the virtual keyboard and type away (I still keep my GoType keyboard, but I don't use it much nowadays since it needs a stable surface to set it, so when I type on it, it doesn't rock the whole PDA and damages the connection on the bottom [that's why I had to make the jump from the E-100 to the E-125).

And some years later Microsoft released the Recognizer software for Windows CE 3.0, that took a page out of the Apple Newton -actually it was the same software- and recognized your writing with minimal training of the software.

oshpark.com/shared_projects/cG4aZUEg

Thank you, user.
Now, what the fuck do I do with 12 ISA slots?

Is that a computer or a microwave?

Neat, thanks user.

A color TV and a ZX Spectrum computer in front of it.

fill it with MIDI cards of course. I have an scc-1 and sw60xg in mine. I also use an MDA card occasionally, they work alongside VGA and can be used for dual-screen debugging like a real hackerman.

I always leaned towards the 115 when looking around by virtue of being the first of their PPCs, I've looked for 100s as well, but the 125 is starting to look nicer as the final iteration of the form factor.
It's difficult to articulate, I think it's a mix of simplicity and presentation more than anything. The applications are just fine, I don't have much difficulty entering data either once I actually get the applications loaded, but launching applications feels more sluggish, drawing windows and graphical elements feel more sluggish, perhaps you just expect more.

Makes me want to sit down with my 548 and m505 together and really compare the two. The former always feels a little more painful when it comes to opening or switching applications despite being theoretically so much more powerful. I've often seen CE mocked for having slow windowing system, but I wonder if it's more in just the somewhat more gradual approach it takes in rendering a window while Palm feels much more all-or-nothing.

I've also heard some things about the m100 series in general as far as usability goes, I mostly only use Tungstens and higher end OS3 devices, and occasionally a WorkPad which I find quite enjoyable. But the only reason I really don't carry around my 548 as much anymore is because getting Palm software is much more convenient.

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Is dat sum pcchips "cache" I see?

>MDA alongside VGA
>giving up that precious upper memory segment
Doesn't sound worth.

that's like, what, 8k? what would you use that for?

can't be, most of the traces are connected.

It's 64K. And the best part is that it's contiguous. I can cram almost everything in there.

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Nice ziptie job

what are you using that takes 78k umb? I have 64k and use maybe half of it.

LOL why does it say return instead of enter

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Because it is an old keyboard, which were based on the typewriter's standards.

The lever that was on the left of the cylinder in which you used to put the page was called the "Carriage Return" lever, and, when pushing it to the left, it both returned the whole setup to the left margin of the page -so you could continue writing- as well as moved said page some spaces below so you could write a new sentence.

That's why the stylized symbol for the return/enter key is , showing the motion of not only returning the page to the left, but also shifting it's position so you could write the next sentence in your document.

Fun fact: back in the late 80's when I had my first computer class, the professor had this strange way of saying "the Return key", wich sounded like Re-Churn. You asking why the key was labeled that way reminded me of that. Thanks!

It wouldn't be very convincing if they weren't. The better fakes were proper soldered up to traces but the "chips" were just chunks of plastic with legs sticking out of them.
At the moment cdrom + mouse + network + fat32/lfn + doskey + ansi/codepage

Any retro PC's with cool graphics?

The NES PPU for example has hardware scrolling on character memory, sprites, multiple pallettes etc.

Did any NEC computers use similar display controllers to the pc-engine?

Anything with interesting hardware mechanisms that isn't a game console, I'd be interested in knowing about. MSX Turbo-R for example.

> ISA
nice

Oh and an idle utility.

nice reply but I think he was just shitposting

I had the same CD burner. It eventually stopped burning anything but still reads discs just fine.

>Any retro PC's with cool graphics?
Yes.
>Did any NEC computers use similar display controllers to the pc-engine?
No, they're completely different.

Mine still works great, probably because it spent most of its life as a secondary drive next to a 56X CD-ROM drive which sadly kicked the bucket recently. I might try to repair it, but I don't really use physical CDs often enough to bother.

Tadpole SPARCbook et moi

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damn that looks slick

>A standard PC-98 has two µPD7220 display controllers (a master and a slave) with 12 KB main memory and 256 KB of video RAM respectively. The master display controller handles font ROM, displaying JIS X 0201 (7x13 pixels) and JIS X 0208 (15x16 pixels) characters. Each character had a variety of display options, including bits for secret, blinking, reverse, underline and three intensity bits (grayscale or RGB). The other display controller is set to slave mode and connected to 256 KB of planar video memory, allowing it to display 640 x 400 pixel graphics with 16 colors out of a palette of 4096. The video RAM is divided into pages (2 pages x 4 planes x 32 KB in 640x400 16 colour mode), and the programmer can control which page is written to and which page is output.

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A neat thing about PC-98 graphics is that the text plane can be overlaid on top of the graphics plane, so you can do fun things like set a "wallpaper" for text mode applications.

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Damn that is very cool

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I remeber that guy from back in the day when my dad (has since passed) had a pharmacy in the city. I was so young at the time but thought that thing was the coolest. I can remember trying to look at the micro printed sheets thinking "how did they make the text so small". Thanks for the recalled memories OP.

that's a microfiche reader

pro tip: use bat files to load network/shsucdx drivers on demand, no use wasting memory on stuff you don't always need.

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If I wanted to get into retro computing what's a good gateway machine to buy?

I can very vaguely us having a grey PC with a CRT monitor when I was about 5 but the oldest computer I regularly used at home was a dell dimension with a 1c/1t cpu

Something like a mid 90's think pad or a PS/2?

>urinorically thinking some mid 90's wintel shit is """"retro""""

I hate to tell you this boomer but 1990 was 29 years ago

holy shit what happened to my life

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I have noticed people get upset when I casually mention The Matrix was released 20 years ago.

It's retro if it has ISA slots
and very soon, anything with a bios will be retro.

makes me wish I enjoyed my childhood while I had the chance

>Pentium Overdrive

Dude I just scored one of those from a friend with board and CPU and a PCI graphics card and have been acquiring period hardware to run it. Nice.

Here's my retro build.

P3 1ghz, Gigabyte AT board
3dfx Voodoo 5500 64mb PCI MAC flashed to PC
512mb RAM
3com NIC
Sound Blaster 16
5x 73gb SCSI stack on Adaptec 29160 controller
W98SE unofficial SP3

Still caps bitches online in Unreal 99 GOTY and CS 1.6 at like a zillion FPS

>dat 3dfx splash screen when Glid emode is activated

hnnnnnnng

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>unironically thinking some mid 80’s 8-bit shit is “““retro”””
daily reminder that Jow Forums is a minicomputer board, generic consumer shitboxes

Really? do modern computers not have that? pathetic.

Or I could just load everything and not fuck around with it because it all fits in high memory anyway.

I'm amused people brought back the pill meme like bellbottoms, hula hoops or pet rocks.

Not an overdrive. It's a plain old P54CS with a sink thermal epoxied to it by the maker of the machine it came from.

you can usually tell an overdrive by the extra voltage regulation systems glued to it, but I think starting with the P133 most boxed Pentiums came with a pre-mounted hsf

how'd you do your window? ive been thinking CNC router but potentially just a Dremel and a lot of touchup
ive got a cooler master atc 201 im sitting on, its in decent shape except for two small dents on the top (it looks like the previous owner cut out a section of the top inside aluminum to fit in a larger PSU and then tried to press the top panel back on and forgot to make sure things were flat first)
but also the 80mm fan cutout on the side which isn't original, thinking that since its kinda scuffed anyway, might as well cut a window into it.

This had an original window option, but I don't have that panel and I doubt im gonna find a side panel for a fairly rare case on ebay these days

forgot pic

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A perfectly good case died for this.

Well it isn't technically a computer

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Maybe he could have tried to repaint the edges but it’s not really a bad job. Generic beige cases are so piss easy to find anyway.

Currently sitting around in a storage unit. What do I do with it?

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get some blank disks for it and write some cool BASIC programs
use it as a terminal to a *nix system
fuck around in general

Telnet into your homeserver and run htop to post on battlestation threads.

As of 2019 I view anything prior to NT6 Windows (Vista) release as retro. Although I think Windows 9x era and prior stuff is even more legit retro as having dedicated hardware for it is more justified I think.

Recently got Workbench 3.1.4 and the kickstart rom for my A1200

Keyboard?

>Freedos
I mean if you're willing to use modern optimized implementations of common DOS drivers you could probably squeeze most of what you need into 60K at the cost of reduced co
JemmEx: exception 0D occured at CS:EIP=F000:00003B43, ERRC=00000000
SS:ESP=00D8:00000F0E EBP=FFF00F3E EFL=00033002 CR0=80000011 CR2=00000000
EAX=00000000 EBX=00001992 ECX=00003297 EDX=00000080 ESI=00200000 EDI=FED100002
DS=00D8 ES=00D8 FS=F000 GS=F000 [CS:IP]=2E 0F 01 16 48 3D 0F 20
Press ESC to abort program

Not in AT form factor they're not.

FreeDOS 64

someday

>that tiny 80mm fan port
The shit we used to put up with.

dual 80mm front intakes, 80mm rear exhaust, 80mm top exhaust
modded 80mm side intake

yeah its some shit
but that's just how it was I guess
something like this case but with 2 less 5.25" bays and dual 120mm intakes in the same style would be fucking awesome though
sadly though I think top mounted PSUs are a thing of the past

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semi related, a big problem I have with this case is front panel shit
it doesn't matter how it looks inside because its not windowed, but its gotta look sexy from the outside
but the only brushed aluminum front panel stuff is a bunch of Silverstone weird shit that costs more than most new cases these days, or fan controllers

it's almost as if writing code that relies on undocumented quirks in proprietary sofware is a bad thing

We should hop into our time machine to go warn developers decades ago so we don't have to deal with it in our retro builds today.

Nobody had brushed silver control panels or drives to stick into the bays back then either so you might be overthinking it.

>Nobody had drives to stick into the bays back then
what are servers?