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deleted last thread before the 30 minute time limit as usual. for self moderation. and stuff.

last thread was a blow-out for "2023 or later". so i thought "2020's" or "2030's" is better.

i'm attempting to get all the threads to a sample-size of at least 10. 100's a little bit out of the question ...

i made this because i am asked "when is it enough?". 1TB SSD, 1GB RAM, 1Core CPU isn't enough. so 1PB SSD, 1TB RAM, 1Kilo-Core CPU is enough.

the "tera-hertz" thing and "quantum computer" thing is sort-f a joke. of course i don't count on tera-hertz or quantum computer. but i felt like asking about it anyway.

likely gonna bump with tech stuff.

hope you enjoy it.

the "tera-hertz" thing and "quantum computer" thing is sort-f a joke. of course i don't count on tera-hertz or quantum computer. but i felt like asking about it anyway. ... we've been stuck between 1GHz~10GHz for over 10 years now. amd athlon 1GHz came out in 1999. almost over 20 years now. a lot of "mobile" things are at 1GHz. the most you can get is 4GHz to 5GHz or higher; over-clocked. in terms of fanless CPU we may be advancing at about 1GHz a a decade. i'm sure we'll see fan-less 2GHz mobile CPU's in the 2020's. and we're sorta doing that over-clocked by decade; x10. i'm sure we'll reach over-clock speeds of over 10Ghz before 2020; or close-enough to ti. then i'm sure we'll reach over 20GHz over-clocked in the 2020's. maybe even more. maybe even a lot more. anyway. the middle-ground is about half of that for high-end mainstream CPU's and about a quarter that for non-mobile CPU's. so it's. 2010's, mobile 1GHz, normal 2.5GHz, extreme 5Ghz, over-clocked-record 10GHz. 2020's, mobile 2Ghz, normal 5GHz, extreme 10GHz, over-clocked-record 20GHz. again; -before- the decade is out. that's the pattern i'm seeing a little bit. that's what i see now. anyway.

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in 2030 everything will be on the cloud
you'll download your daily estrogen pills from federally subsidized google servers

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NOOO!!
FUCK YOUUU!!

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on the real. for ease of use. you could probably just say. 2010's, mobile 1GHz, normal 2GHz, extreme 4GHz, extreme-over-clocked 8GHz. 2020's. mobile 2GHz, normal 4GHz, extreme 8GHz, over-clocked 16GHz.

The first couple depend on DNA or other molecular code advancements
The next 3 are probably impossible. Quantum processors may never be the main CPU, instead pairing with non-quantum, traditional processors

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i think it's possible to have more cpu cores mainstream. amd seems on its way. ... oh. i mean quantum computers as in you can buy it and it's like a quantum thing but you can use it. like a quantum part of the computer. similar to gpu or integrated graphics. not as in the whole computer.

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>terahertz
Never.
Did you fail to notice we've been stuck on 3-5 GHz for the last 15 years?

>Did you fail to notice we've been stuck on 3-5 GHz for the last 15 years?
No.
>the "tera-hertz" thing and "quantum computer" thing is sort-f a joke. of course i don't count on tera-hertz or quantum computer. but i felt like asking about it anyway.

CPU transistors are not and can't ever be (read up on diminishing returns) power efficient enough to clock past ≈5GHz in an ambient heat setting. You need to use LN2 to get 8-9GHz, and to get past that you would need to find a way to reach near absolute zero, and even then you're looking maybe 10GHz at best (provided that the architecture is built and binned specifically for 0°K).

Yeah but that's the rate I'm seeing. It is going up slowly. And at about that rate. That is what I see. So since we have these small little advances here and there. I'd think that it would keep going on that pattern. That is what I see.

I mean you got like "24nm is the limit" and then they do finfet. They're making the GHz go higher somehow. There's probably tech advancements and tricks that are being over-looked to do this, and stuff ... I don't know. That's what I'm seeing. Now. ... I am an optimist. Relatively. ... We'll see ...

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CPU power savings per year are at a record low, and Moore's law has nearly ceased to exist. The only new developments in the works are continuations of the current process, and stacking CPU resources in 3D (which would only increase thermal density and be harder to cool).

It's the price you pay. But it's still there. It's even relatively alive and well in the GPU market. I'm sure we'll figure it out and advance. I mean. Either way. If we ever get to a point where it's "you're stuck and you can't do any more physically". Then at least "it is enough".

I mean it's sorta like "640K should be enough for anyone". Or even the 32-bit "4GB of RAM should be enough for anyone". I've never seen us stop and go "Yeah we can't do anymore" and stop. So I'm sure we'll advance to something. Maybe it'll be something different than silicone. But we'll advance. Slowly but surely. We advance. Again. That's what I see now.

likely deleting thread before the 30 minute time limit. for self moderation, and stuff ...

thank you