Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on some MSI mobos) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >i7 8700/K or i7 9700K - Extreme setup with RTX 2080/Ti >R7 2700/X - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000CL15 or 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >8GB RX 570, RX 580, and GTX 1060 6GB are standard choices >GTX 1660Ti or RTX 2060 for very high framerates if you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >RTX 2060 is standard >RTX 2080 for very high framerates if you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 is standard >RTX 2080Ti is better for 4K but expensive
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
Should I get this second hand for 635$? Ryzen 2600x Asus Rog Strix B350-F Nvidia GTX 950(It will work for now, I guess.) Corsair RM550x SanDisk Plus 240GB 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4-3200 Fractal Design Meshify C
Nathan Phillips
If the system works and isn't very old it seems like a pretty good deal. You can always put the parts into PCpartpicker and see how much they are brand new and then make a decision. Meshify Fractal cases are usually pretty nice too.
Andrew Scott
The thing is that I'm not sure if 2600x is bad compared to 2700x. I don't want to buy a soon to be obsolete cpu. Though yeah, the computer seems really well(its bought in aug 2018) and its parts are actually not some offbrand chink shits but quality ones. Though I'm still not sure.
Charles Jones
2600x is absolutely fine. It's slightly faster than the 2700 at the cost of higher TDP and heat. 2600x is an absolutely fine CPU. As is the 2600 which I'd still recommend you'd get if it was in that package. 2600x to 2700x difference is negligible other than the 2700x is more efficient and has more cores or something. Ultimtely it comes down to like .1 or .2 GMhz between them both stock and OC'd.
Angel Cox
Not if you don't want to put some more money to upgrade it. Pricewise it is fair, but overall a shit build. You could do better for $635.
Kevin Sanders
>Ryzen >Just came out >Worried about bing obsolete I've been using this for 10 years and I play all modern games at 60fps you wimp.
is 2600x fine with stock cooler? ive seen some people it runs hot
Jonathan Butler
>You could do better for $635. Can you help me on that, video card is the least important to me for now.
Nathaniel Cook
Yes it runs hot. Yes it's fine with stock cooler because you're not going to be an idiot and attempt to OC it with the stock cooler. If you want to OC a 2600x or 2700x you need to get a Noctua or an AIO watercooler minimum.
Kayden Butler
So does the 1660 replace the 1060 6gb on the OP now or?
Anthony Gonzalez
No, I don't care about Oc'ing it. Just worried about it dying faster because of the heat.
Jaxon Ward
It's designed that way. The x stands for it being factory overclocked and comes with a better cooler than the 2600 to compensate for it. Will it die in like 5 years? No. I'm not sure why you're panicking about this. It's just a CPU sold by a manufacturer who use good materials and techniques in making it. These things will last much longer than any chips before them.
Cooper Lee
Oh, if you don't care about vidya, that isn't a bad build then. You just aren't going to be playing anything other than Dwarf Fortress on it with a 950
Bentley Peterson
I care about vidya but the 950 will do fine for a few months.
Im considering building my first decent pc and would like some help from people that know what they are doing, is this good? pcpartpicker.com/list/m389D2 budget is around $1500 im planning on using it for muh gaymes, video editing, etc.
Jacob Williams
So what should I get minus the GPU.
Julian Rogers
Seems fine. I'd check to see whether the stock 2600x cooler is better or worse than your chosen after market cooler. Why do you have 2 SSD's? You save like milliseconds on load times with an ssd. It's really not worth it. Get a high rpm 2tb or 4tb drive and just use that.
Anthony Harris
>You save like milliseconds on load times with an ssd
Comparing SSD to M.2 NVMe SSD, sure.
Comparing HDD to SSD however is miles difference.
You can see loading times cut in half in some cases.
Luis Brown
Bullshit. And if a 30 second load timer turns into a 15 minute one is it worth fucking spending a couple of hundred bucks for it? Probably fucking not. If you wanna waste your cash then buy it. Or you could not be a huge retard and get a good HDD for cheaper and put the cash elsewhere.
Levi Wood
>Why do you have 2 SSD's? because the example build i the op had that, honestly
Cooper Cruz
Don't buy 2 ssds. Just get the m.2 one for now, and use the savings to get a 1440p monitor. Your build is 1440p ready, so might as well use it.
Brandon Garcia
>Bullshit Where have you been for the last decade?
In 2019, ANY drive you're installing applications, games, etc to, should be an SSD.
For data storage, obviously HDDs make sense. But for programs? SSDs all the way.
>Just get the m.2 one for now so should i get the 256gb one or upgrade it to the 512gb one?
Chase Hall
What do when windows bluescreens on startup on brand new hardware with only the bear essentials plugged in? I've tried to reinstall it multiple times, but no help.
Ethan Thompson
>that awful color scheme >f12 HMMMM I bet next there' will be two posts at exactly the same time professing they're different people.
Alexander Long
Honestly, ignore that retard.
M.2 NVMe SSD for boot and programs and SATA SSD for games.
John Taylor
256gb. You just need your OS, and most played games on it. If you find you need more, you can always buy a second drive later. But I have had a 256gb ssd + 3tb in hdds for years now.
Jack Williams
why are you agreeing with him?
Jose Cox
here is a WEBM for you with me refreshing the page to reload everything just to prove it.
Turns out, when you're a fucking retard, multiple people are willing to call you out on it.
A 1440p monitor is going to be better than 512gb extra storage space.
Matthew Cox
Who?
The retard saying to buy one? I'm not.
Jose Walker
>shows nothing except that he's hovering because he can't webm properly HAHAHAHAHAHAA
Dominic Cook
NVME SSDs don't actually boot faster because they run off the PCIe interface which needs a moment longer to initalize. You can do it but it serves you no purpose on startup, and I'd guess that having windows on the faster NVME also doesn't make a difference in response.
Logan Brown
Take your final (you) and leave the thread while you can.
it does make a difference in response, especially for heavy applications like adobe shit.
If you're a normie that does literally nothing with their computer, i guess it wouldn't matter
Tyler Johnson
Thanks for conceding to me faggot.
Justin Brooks
Which OS is "adobe shit" a part of you dumb fuck? Didn't come with my windows installation.
Tyler Anderson
huh? the webm looks exactly how he's describing. He refreshed the page in the first second of the WEBM, then he hovered over to show it was obviously not messed around with locally by inspecting the page in chrome or whatever. I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to imply with this post, you just look stupid.
Jack Wilson
Are you retarded? >M.2 NVMe SSD for boot and programs
I said boot AND PROGRAMS
Adobe would fall under PROGRAMS
do you need mental help?
Christopher Brooks
>he Oooo caught you out again didn't I fag.
Jason Scott
Whats the difference between 16gb of ram and 32gb of ram and does it make any difference?
Nothing unless you are doing something that specifically requires a lot of RAM. And if you were, you'd know.
Angel Hill
>editing this much >actually making a webm that doesn't show shit >being this mad I love it.
Landon Sanders
If you think the WebM doesn't show anything then do yourself a favor.
Edit the (you) next to this post to remove it. THEN refresh the page Is the (you) back? Congrats, now you know why you look like a retard here.
Levi Rodriguez
HAHAHAHAHA! Damn fag you mad as hell? first time on the board lil fagboy?
Isaiah Harris
>i'm just pretending to be retarded in order to troll you guys, how mad are you!? LELELELEL
You must pretend to be retarded a lot, you've gotten good at it.
Or maybe, you're actually just a retard and can't even realize it.
Hudson Cook
It's like arguing with conservatives, it doesn't matter if you're right, even if you prove you're right, just by replying he "wins" because he never planned on being right to begin with.
Liam Baker
Nah fag. Your webm doesn't show shit. And it's only you that's replying. Which is funny to me. You jewish? You sound like this is the first time you've been caught out and called out as a huge fucking liar. Jew.
Colton Roberts
but arent the 6gb vram going to fuck me in 1440p?
Gavin King
Do you see the dotted orange and solid orange lines on the left-hand side of each post?
Those denote replies TO me, and replies FROM me.
The post you're claiming is me, is NOT one of those.
This is not something I can edit particularly easily since it's burried in 4chanx/oneechan.
If you still want to insist that's me, go right ahead retard. I'm done arguing with a moron too stupid to realize he's been proven wrong twice.
>the jew attempts to continue to lie by html fiddling AHAHAHAH come on son. Listen. I know it's in your nature, your blood to lie. Because you're a coward and cowards can't face up to people. It's alright. Just some people are cowards and you are too.
Nigga, you can't even edit that shit in HTML like that, at least I have no idea how to, it's FAR more complicated than just deleting a (you).
Also, jewish? You nazis really need to calm down with that shit, jews make up a tiny part of the population yet somehow anyone you disagree with is suddenly so jewish you'd think they were a majority religion.
Wyatt Cox
>I don't know how to goyim trust me Why are you jews such prolific liars? Why can't you just be honest for once and not be a coward? I'm honestly interested in what it is at the genetic level that makes you a weak person.
Jordan Diaz
>shitting up the thread arguing about who's the bigger retard >don't realize they're both equally retarded
Matthew Gray
take a room retards
Chase Roberts
If you know how to do it, show me.
Here is the code for the post box, go ahead and show me there where I would delete the orange line next to the post. I'll wait.
Equally retarded? Ehhhh, I think one is for sure leaning more retarded than the other. Both retarded for sure though.
Nathaniel Young
>Huuuurrr I dunno! >IM JUST PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED user No but seriously. Why are you a coward? Do you sweat when you think about confrontation? Why do you lie to people? Is it because you're weak. Yeah... Yeah I think it's because you're a weakling now that I'm talking to you.
No. There is basically no game you wont get at least 60fps at 1440p with a 1660.
Parker Moore
Best HDD manufacturer for longevity?
Adrian Jenkins
Why did you continue to argue with him? Are you stupid?
Michael White
(OP) OP revision 1080p >RX 570 8GB for value with good performance >GTX 1660 is standard >RTX 2060 for very high framerates if you have a CPU and monitor to match Basically yes. I'll be updating the OP as written above. Seems a little awkward so I might revamp the format
Hudson Anderson
Is the 1660 out yet?
Tyler Nelson
Yes, it's definitely on US newegg for 225
Easton Ward
Jews gonna be cowardly wimps who can't take being called liars. Just like you kid.
William Scott
So what 1440p monitor can i get without getting jewed out? i suppose 75hz is okay?
Samuel Brooks
HGST or Hitachi. But mostly, if a HDD is going to fail, it fails early or years later
I agree (as OP, full disclosure), because it's often helpful to have two physical drives instead of a single physical or multiple logical
Brody Harris
I have my PC connected to my computer and television. I would like to be able to sit on my couch and use headphones with televisions. What kind of equipment would let me broadcast audio from my pc to a receiver that I mount on my couch that I can plug headphone into?
Isn't the rx 580 still worth it just for the two free games that come with it?
Nathaniel White
I'm planning on building a computer for gaming, I mostly play paradox games such as EU4, CK2 etc. It's something I have only recently started researching, so if you are going to reply calling me a faggot and telling me how shit this plan is at least give some feedback on what I should do better.
I have a similar build but upgraded to an Xeon W3690 for £42 recently, now it flys.
Owen Diaz
forgot to take off wifi card. the mobo has wifi
Dominic Russell
>going incel
Jordan Wright
get a gigabyte ud or elite based on your budget. maybe get a ud board and replace 1060 with 1660ti? don't know euro prices
Juan Turner
Hello /pcbg/, pastabro here. pcpartpicker.com/list/2LTw4q This is want I wanna build, but, and I'm already hearing boos, I still didn't pick a monitor. I wanted a decent one, 1080p with 144hz. I looked at MSI Optix MAG241C, but maybe you have better suggestions in mind.
Jason Perry
*gigabyte ud or elite mobo
Chase Moore
Uhhhh uh can get better NEW with an RX570 for around $650, as linked in the last thread. The Thermaltake G3 build.
That seems worth maybe $450. The SSD and GPU are worth pretty much nothing.
Why not just buy a used GPU and buy the rest new? That'd probably come out to $500-$550.
1060 has been terrible value for over a year and not worth buying. 1060 never should have been in the OP if it was except for people in SEA and shit with loony prices. 1660Ti and 1660 are better.
1660 tends to be slightly above or below the RX590. Depends whether you want the games or not.
>arent the 6gb vram going to fuck me in 1440p? Yes.
People telling you otherwise are the same shill faggots who said 3Gb was enough for 1080p 3 years ago when that garbage doesn't even get 20fps 1% minimums in some cases.
There's already a few games which want more than 6Gb at 1440p now. And there will be even more over the next console generation. They're trying to trick you into having to upgrade your GPU in another year or two and hoping you're dumb enough to buy another planned obsolescence Nvidia GPU like that yet again.
2 SSD are fine.
NVMe for a scratch disk, or to use with StoreMi to increase the speed and longevity of your large SSD.
