So I hear Blu-Ray is gonna die soon. Say good buy to high bitrate movies as they start to look compressed and shit from here on out.
So I hear Blu-Ray is gonna die soon...
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Yet vinyl records are still being made and sold.
*blocks your death*
A smaller market than even Blu-ray and shrinking along with it.
In terms of Internet delivered, lower bitrate than Blu-ray and lower quality.
>shrinking
not with the way TV prices are headed, sweetie ;)
>In terms of Internet delivered, lower bitrate than Blu-ray and lower quality.
Thank you for proving my point
Nah it ain't going anywhere
>not with the way TV prices are headed, sweetie
Irrelevant. People aren't buying UltraHD discs.
>Thank you for proving my point
I'm not sure what your point is, then. Streamed UltraHD isn't going to keep Blu-rays alive.
Vinyl doesn't rot like CDs, etc.
wow we got a live one
>Blu-Ray is gonna die soon
I haven't seen or used any physical media in over 10 years now. I don't know anyone who uses physical media. Fuck, I don't know anyone who owns a fucking TV still. Seems like the normies have switched to laptops and smartphones exclusively. No one sits around with a group of people to watch a movie now. They just end up on the couch texting, surfing, and doing other shit.
Physical media has been dead for a long time now.
Yeah, they only get damaged every time you use it.
People aren't buying them to play them anymore, some are simply buying them to preserve the music.
>No one sits around with a group of people to watch a movie now.
Nah, people still watch movies together, especially horror flicks.
They still rot faster than CDs, retardo
I use blu-ray. Whenever I download muh animes I always download the blu-rays
>They still rot faster than CDs
No they don't, you can still play 40 year old records.
You can't do the same with CDs.
Double nigger.
40 year old records if they have been stored in impeccable condition all this time
I fail to see your logic here, especially how you seem to think streaming enters into the debate.
>not using a laser-turntable
I have CDs that are almost that old and they still work fine. And even if they did only have a 40 year lifespan, I could just put them in my computer and make perfect copies of them. You can't do the same with vinyl.
Because old records were made of shellac, which is organic (literal lice poop), unlike vinyl which will last forever when stored correctly.
I've always wondered why these weren't a thing.
shellac shatters, vinyl warps
FLAC is higher quality than CDs though.
Never heard of this before. As a concept, that is really fucking cool
It's not noticeably better.
Modern hevc/x265 that ironically got introduced into the mainstream with 4k hdr blurays and avc1/opus
Made x264 2k and 4k dead overnight
Just no need for stupid file sizes and discs anymore.
100gb for a a movie is stupid when a decently compressed one shits over it
We're limited in bitrate by compression because people have shit internet. As soon as we nuke australia and anyone else with ~1mbps there'll be the incentive to increase the streaming file sizes.
Streaming is what is killing Blu-rays.
It's cheaper for everyone and more convenient. UltraHD isn't blocking the death of Blu-rays because the main delivery method is through streaming. It's helping facilitate the death of Blu-ray if anything.
>As a concept, that is really fucking cool
It's just CD technology being used on vinyl.
Yeah, it was pretty cool. Really made it so we could compact those discs down.
4k h265 also looks like shit because it's too low bitrate
HDDVD should have won...
And yet I don't care
Ah yes 25gb a disc with shit read speeds no consumer burners and dumn cucked audio
Flopped for a reason worse image quality same price
It was the vhs of dvd/hd era optical media glad it fucking died
>In terms of Internet delivered, lower bitrate than Blu-ray and lower quality.
..
why?
It would have done better than bl*Eray
except it didn't..
>And yet I don't care
I know. You're a normalfag. You would be commenting "A10/10 V10/10. Thanks YIFY." If that group was still active
That's subjective.
Objectively it's better quality because it has less quantization.
Not really I used to download 50gb and 25gb mux and buy blurays but the difference in quality was negligible once x265 hvec opus av1 took off
Lower quality and a strain against all those shiny new data caps that were introduced into the US over the last few years :)
Yes, and?
Is that going to keep Blu-ray alive? Nope.
Nah unlimited 50mbit here just cbf waiting an extra couple of hours-days for this shit as I said the image quality difference is negligible unless they fuck up thr settings and over blur/sharpen the temporal filters
because 4K is still catching on and just recently came down in price
>quality was negligible
Get your eyes checked, you're blind user.
Again, not helping Blu-rays.
that's where you're wrong kiddo
Nah shit 48" ips with so much backlight burn bleed I can't see anything but white grey on blacks reee
All signs point to you being a fucking retard.
What are you talking about?
nah, it's the analysts with their usual slipshod understanding of tech that's wrong methinks.
It'd be stupid to stop making a profit on bluray movies. They know damn well even if they drop the price they'll still make a crazy profit by pressing discs and selling them at $5-10 a pop which is fair for blurays. I've began buying blurays like crazy since the prices have been dropping. I hope they know they won't drive me to streaming. Fuck that. Quality is shit and truth is I actually download everything I want in high bitrate rips and remux if I really like it. I just buy it if it's around and the price is fair even if I already have it on my hard drive.
It isn't about the tech, it's about the commercial side.
Most people don't notice that streamed 1080p is worse than BD, but it is a hell of a lot more convenient.
That is why BD is dying. The fact that BDs look better than UltraHD is irrelevant, because people will just watch the streamed and be happy because they're getting UltraHD and it is convenient (and cheaper).
Physical media is becoming a niche, even more so.
They make better profits off streaming.
I'm not making this shit up.
good thing i just bought a UHD player. I'm getting an OLED tv next month, so they better no stop making UHD discs
most people don't have the display tech to discern the difference yet, but higher resolution visuals is easily memeable because it's actually true.
You got statistics on that or like just by your observation?. I can really see someone concluding that by seeing bluray/dvd sections in stores being smaller to almost non-existent but it isn't as obvious at how many are being sold online.
I believe they make better profits but just because someone makes BETTER profits doesn't mean it's smart business wise to kill all profits coming in from another sector also.
because boomers still buy dvd. companies and publishers should just kill dvd as a movie format and lower br prices. Dumb fucks
user, I...
dont say it. dont fucking tell me. Ive been living off a 30" CRT for 15 years and im finally ready to make the jump to HD and youre fucking telling me all i have to look forward to is LOW BITRATE STREAMS?? FUCK
When BD dies so will high quality rips.
>most people don't have the display tech to discern the difference yet
For BD to 1080p stream, definitely they do.
For 4k stream to BD, sure, maybe they don't, but it won't matter. The difference isn't as great as DVD to BD at proper viewing distances.
>just because someone makes BETTER profits doesn't mean it's smart business wise to kill all profits coming in from another sector also.
Well they're not going to just stop making BDs tomorrow. Remember your fucking supply and demand.
>The difference isn't as great as DVD to BD at proper viewing distances.
keep telling yourself that ;)
Do cheap usb 3.0 BD readers + a way to break their DRM easily exist ?
crazy thing is I just bought a bluray drive hehe. It's cool though, I just got it to play with. At least if I want to burn some shit I can.
to rip? makemkv or anydvd or dvdfab. Second two are not free.
To playback just install a cracked copy of windvd or powerdvd.
More people would probably get Blu Ray drives and get into buying discs if not for the gay ass encryption which makes it impossible to just pop in and watch on PC without a $100 piece of shit software to play them also general people aren't going to have the patience or insight to use makemkv
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NOBODY GIVES A FUCK
Downloading BDrips is literally more autistic than FLAC, at least flac is somewhat managable, when a BD rip if 50GB, it takes longer to download that the time I care about a shitty movie.
And anime isn't mastered in 4k, it isn't even mastered in full HD most of the time.
It's not.
makemkv isnt free either. you get a free trial and then it stops working
I rip my own BDs, usually 8-10GB is the sweet spot for me
okay ;))
I wouldn't really even consider popping a dvd/bluray into my computer to watch straight off the disc. I hate even switching shit out to put in my dvd/bluray player. I would however rip the shit I own so that I could double click the file when I want. I don't even need to do that though really. I really download EVERY FUCKING thing I want as it comes out, but I like to have the actual disc for ones I like.
hmmm, well I"m not sure about that. Pretty sure even on the website it says it's free while in beta and it's been in beta for like forever. makemkv.com
I mean, you just check the forums for the latest key every time it runs out. It's going to be like winrar
I would even do that but truth is someone else (not in this thread) mentioned what I thought but hadn't said which is why not simply download a properly encoded copy and be done with it?.
>I hear Blu-Ray is gonna die soon.
This would make me sad if there were new movies being made that are worth buying a physical copy.
Oh and the last movie worth watching was watchmen and it came outr decades ago.
They simply dont make the movies anymore, only progressive propaganda pieces.
>a way to break their DRM easily exist ?
Record the output.
Like with OBS or literally anything that cat record video.
lol. please tell me you aren't this pleb?. Seriously take the five hours to learn how to rip the shit and make a nice copy instead of spending your an entire life archiving movies this way in shit quality.
besides, i think with cinavia (which not sure how many movies use this) may even still be around with a capture like that.
most 1080p rips are 3-4gb which is fine but I find that around 8 the blocking and artifacts are mostly gone. Anything from 8-uncompressed is just overkill
Most rips as far as I can tell are available in 6-8 gb. smaller than that are usually rarbg/yify tier crap which I used to watch but not anymore and higher than that usually remuxes which yeah I'd rather just buy the disc than waste my hard drive space on just to watch it once every two years.
>No one sits around with a group of people to watch a movie now. They just end up on the couch texting, surfing, and doing other shit.
This modern world sucks.
thanks for the heads up.
i have a guilty truth to admit though, the only reason i like having rips on my computer instead of popping in the disc is so i can take quick screenshots and post them to Jow Forums threads
I like having all movies right here on my computer because as soon as I want to watch one with my wife I put my TV on as my second monitor and play the movie on there for us to watch while I turn my main monitor off. No way to do that without a hassle if it wasn't for my computer. PS3 is next best option because it reads exfat so I can copy large files but only if it's encoded right. My philips 4k bluray player can read usb's but only reads fat16 and fat32 so there goes the 4GB file size limit and I'm not re-encoding for an output file that shitty to watch.
>Streaming is what is killing Blu-rays.
No, whats killing it is having to have HDCP bullshit in order to view stuff. Most normies just want to put in a disc and play, like a DVD. Plus, the cost.
You just need to get the new beta version, and if, for whatever reason, it keeps saying the key is expired then you just need to get a new key off the forum.
>No, whats killing it is having to have HDCP bullshit in order to view stuff
Not really an issue for normies because they buy stuff that is all HDCP compliant like good consumer whores.
Where is the best place to buy 4k films that aren't youtube/netflix compressed into just blocks of colored noise
But what if you fell for the 4k meme? "4k" streaming looks horrible
h265/vp9 are low bitrate solutions. in other words, they are suited for streaming. h264 is still king for high bitrate content. I've actua
l ran my own tests and h264 not only offers the fastest speed when cpressing, it also comes out at the smallest file size
there needs to be a codec that allows storage for reconstruction patterns for "ai" upscaling. like that you could get 4k out of 1080p with the same quality
This is horse shit and I'm unfollowing this shit thread
Continue circle jerking about your dead 20 years old optical media
you retard. his statement is 100% correct, atleast for 1080p
blu-ray 1080p > streamed 4k
What a shame it came to this.
>the current state of Jow Forums
64gb sd card costs 12 bucks in retail. if you bulk order them from a chinese factory I'm sure you can get them at like 2 bucks a piece. so they could sell movies on them whichs would not only be cheaper, it would also be much more convienient to use.