$2500 budget MacBook Pro or XPS 15

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if you even have to ask, buy macbook, stupid people are better off with apple

>2500
>budget
?????

Librem
>ME disabled as much as possible on modern x86
>usercontrollable signed/verified firmware with TPM
>coreboot

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get the macbook and ignore winjeets, it's better and will last longer

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>"I have a budget of $2500"
?????

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Apple faggot here.

Get the XPS, those new macbooks come with a keyboard that's not only shit, most of them end up breaking after a few months.
Also flexgate.

everyone knows generic windows laptops dont last a year

my gf's Ideapad is 3 years old and running strong. Remember, it's a fucking Ideapad.

My sister has a mac (not macbook) and its 10 yrs old and doesnt suffer from slowdown, because I guess damn unix runs like that.

everyone knows you shit in the street

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I have a precision mobo in an xps 15 case very comfy desu. If you plan on running Linux and/or don’t want a shit keyboard it’s perfect

macOS != Unix and xnu is a pile of shit

Get the XPS 15 but if you can hold your money until the 9580 is released that would be great

> MacBook Pro
> 2500 $

If you take the i7 and 16 gb RAM upgrade, you don't even have enough money to upgrade your 256 gb SSD.
Are you serious?

Looked it up in Euros, so USD may be cheaper.
Although i highly doubt it.

It is unix pajeet

old Apple hardware is better than new Apple hardware. What's your point?

do you realize that the more laptops you sell the more breakage there would be? especially if you sell cheap 200$ laptops.

>doesnt suffer from slowdown
it does, but she doesn't do anything demanding with it

I don't think you want to actually get the high-end macbooks, they're really overpriced compared to other high-end machines. I think Apple's strength relies in their other products.

if you put an SSD on any 10 year old hardware, it will run fine (unless it's a fucking Celeron)

> considering to buy a Mac

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>>doesn't understand percentages

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>>Apple's macOS (previously known as OS X) is a UNIX 03 registered product, first becoming registered with Mac OS X 10.5 "Leopard" on October 26, 2007 (when run on Macs with Intel processors).All newer versions of macOS (except Mac OS X 10.7 "Lion") have been registered.

>If you take the i7 and 16 gb RAM upgrade

These aren't really that necessary, unless you're doing heavy video or computational work, and you won't really be gaming on a 13" machine.

Storage isn't that critical for most these days either, all the stuff that used to clog up hard drives, like movies and music, is streamed. Photos go to the cloud.

This, if you are ready to spend that much money on a laptop, why not buy the one that you can pedorice without worrying much about three letter niggers possibly putting you on a watchlist