You can go to jail for having 1s and 0s in your hard drive

Exigence, something most 1's and 0's on your hard drive lacks.

That's a violation of other people's property and breaks the NAP. Shit argument.
next

Based and redpilled

>I can commit murder on my property
Typical weeb logic

If someone goes in your property they should know they can get killed

this is way too retarded to not be bait.

That might affect the safety of other people but how does a specific pattern of magnetic fields on a platter in a sealed hdd in your pc which might not even be connected to the internet affect other people?

content != context.

>murder
>self-defense
Pick one, retard. Also, try that excuse in japan, faggot.

Reminder that if you believe in CP laws, intellectual property, and libel laws then you by definition do not believe in free speech. As you believe that information by itself should be illegal.
Think about it logically.

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no, actually. that example was first used in a case of blatant violation of 1A rights and was overruled a few decades later
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schenck_v._United_States

Reminder: You're a worthless idiot. Head over to Somalia if you want true freedom.

>You're completely isolated and there's no chance that you'll become depraved to the point of acting out of compulsion
This is your brain on cp and anime.

based

>people should be jailed on the chance they might do something
>unironically defending precrime
The absolute st*te of st*tists

>A violation of someone else's privacy and sexual exploitation of another person is acceptable and not morally questionable
>tfw you're too low iq to make legitimate arguments

>mfw the government can literally jail me if i say bad things about the government

What's your stance on drinking (or using psychotropical drugs for that matter) and operating heavy machinery?

So hypohetically if I completely isolate myself then its fine to watch such content?

Find the ISIS goat fucker.

Saying that someone dosen't have a legitimate argument isn't a legitimate argument

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hey guys can you see how retarded I am haha I'm just making you critically and question everything tho I'm def not a pedo pls don't arrest me fbi

I still think it's morally reprehenisble, however, practically, you would be of no concern to society at large.

>I can spout horseshit, but you can't call me out on it
Good one, retard.

>video of sexual exploitation = sexual exploitation itself
So by this logic, everyone who watched the Christchurch massacre video is a mass murderer and should be jailed. Why is watching mass murder ok, ISIS execution ok but CP is a nono?
There is no logical argument against this, it's literally all appeal to emotion and adhom. It makes zero sense for one to be legal but not the other.

If you can't ride an armed tank with 2T of cocaine in it then you ain't free.

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>Good one
Thanks

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>hey did you know I watched that nz mass shooter video haha great stuff right

I know I too love watching fake videos

Thing is, cp just like mass murder and isis execution videos still need to be identified, catalogued, investigated etc, so goverment people still have to watch them, but its legal and allowed when goverment people do it.

>morbid curiosity is the same as deviant sexual titillation
I don't think the news should show or glorify those mentally ill retards (You), but it's not the same as sexual compulsion, fucktard.

>There is no logical argument against this
There literally is, you're just a dumb faggot.

>an arrangement of atoms is not allowed

>This subject is as simple as you are

>morbid curiosity is the same as deviant sexual titillation
Not that guy but, these are not illegal, watching bdsm porn is also considered deviant sexual titillation. The thing he was calling the same was act of watching video of illegal action, both murder and statutory rape are illegal actions, he wasn't talking about the intent of the viewer, you can't police based on what the viewer thinks, only what they actually do.

Thats absolutely fine as opposed to an arrangement of bits of information being illegal.

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What if I fapped to the nz shooter video?

this but unironically

We can argue about spreading (uploading) CP, but simply possessing it is clearly a victimless act (well, its not even an act, just a state of being).

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One is an actual physical substance, physical matter, arrange it in some way and you might have a bomb or something. The other is literally a non physical, non tangible concept(from wiki: resolution of uncertainty) How can something like that be illegal, how can anyone even consider banning something like that.

Another retard. You're playing a semantics game, you know what I mean. I should say paraphillic deviant sexual titillation. Also, morbid curiosity isn't the same as sexual desire. There is no "need" to watch violence. It's just satisfies a curiosity (Don't bring up serial killers like a retard, it's not a need. There is no need to kill, at least not in the way you think of it). Sexual compulsions are another beast entirely. All animals have a need to breed, pass on their genes. This can get perverted into paraphillic sexual desires. Equating murder and statutory rape is nonsense. They're aren't the same. The law is arbitrary, nature is absolute.

exactly, some people would view cp for morbid curiosity reasons and others might fap to mass murder videos, that is why it is illogical to base laws off thoughts. Possession is the illegal part when people get caught with cp, not because they fapped to cp, heck you can't guarantee they fapped to it already or not

>implying intent makes any difference
CP is information, Christchurch is information. Possession of information is a victimless 'crime'.

Also do you seriously think that mass shootings aren't meant to entertain in some way? ESPECIALLY Christchurch?
Did you watch the video? Read the original 8ch thread? Or the reactions there, or even on here? The intention was very clear, and many people were supporting him and calling him a hero. Should those people, specifically, be jailed, while the people who watched NZ merely out of curiosity are left alone? How do you even determine this? Even normalfag boomers on Breitbart were supporting him.

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>Also do you seriously think that mass shootings aren't meant to entertain in some way

I respect the right to share the CC videos, but I only have contempt for those who do.

Because the creation of cp is abusive you faggot and making it illegal discourages people from making more and saying “well shit i already strung together those 1s and 0s by doing a real life physical act of brutality lol free speech means no consequences for vocally supporting and calling for violence against minors reeeeee”

>making it illegal
Nobody is arguing for the legality of making cp.

>but simply possessing it is clearly a victimless act
I think that's a bit naive.

Suggesting that children in cp aren't victims is just stupid and pointless. YOU may not have been the abuser but in order for you to get the media they had to suffer.

pictures of drawn loli, 2d etc. - really just comes down to jurisdiction - if it's illegal where you are then either get better at hiding it or stop collecting. Arguing against it is a bit like arguing that people should be able to drive drunk - you'll just look like a whack-job (only with more stigma!)

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Dont forget about psychopaths and sociopaths

>a semantics game
Law is a semantic game, that is the meta commentary of this thread.

>paraphillic deviant sexual titillation
is still not illegal

> morbid curiosity isn't the same as sexual desire
I didn't say it was.

>no "need" to watch violence
there is no "need" to fap either, fapping and breeding aren't the same thing, using "instincts" is a piss poor argument, we deny our instincts to eat when we go shopping while hungry, we can easily wait until we purchase the food, it is our instinct to breed, we can easily wait until we have consent, it is our "instinct" to fap, we can easily wait until we find the right porn

> Equating murder and statutory rape is nonsense
I didn't equate them, they can both be illegal acts without being equal, I did not call them equal. a video of them isn't equal either nor did I say that was equal.

Law is what we are talking about, Pedophilia( a disorder) isn't illegal nor is it in the law, statutory rape (an actual act) is in law, and very illegal.

Thanks Moralfag

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Breitbart was created by jews and its pro jewish , now the readers may or may not be jewish, but a normal fag boomer is anything but critical of information presented to him therefore is probably (unknowably to himself)biased towards israel and against 'slims

>some people would view cp for morbid curiosity reasons
FBI!

Very little to none view "cp" just to see it. You're a special kind of stupid.

>CP is information.
Oh, so you just watch cp with popcorn and a coke? Fuck off your retardation. Intent has nothing to with it. It's different. If you're jacking off to cc, you're just as fucked. Sexual compulsion isn't the same.

>Also do you seriously think that mass shootings aren't meant to entertain in some way
No, that's not why they do it.

>The intention was very clear, and many people were supporting him and calling him a hero. Should those people, specifically, be jailed, while the people who watched NZ merely out of curiosity are left alone?
The edgelords and most people who watched are depraved pos like you. They just want to see it. itch a curiosity. Not jack off and permanently alter their brain chemistry.

I grow tired of your stupidity.

>have drugs
>don't consume drugs
>"dude wtf why can't I have drugs, don't you know about free speech?"

Allowing possession means people can benefit off that act granted they hid the filming from the law. Legal possession encourages the supply and grants legitimacy to the fucking niggers and wiggers who fuck kids

>implying possession of drugs should not be legalized

>little to none
>little
the very fact that you didn't say no one because you cannot guarantee no one is my point, some people that will do exist out there somewhere.

You're a fucking idiot. You should just kill yourself.
>inb4 no argument
w/e just stop posting faggot

>being too dumb to encrypt your 1s and 0s

You deserve jail if you can’t outsmart government enforcers who couldn’t pass calc 1 if their life depended on it

You're welcome, edgefag.

telling people to kill themselves is immoral to you dumb moralfag. Try to stick to your own position will you?

no argument
Now fuck off you fucking fuck

Most (if not all) encryption algorithms have government backdoors and purposefully shit design.

>exploiting children in a sexual way
>bad names
you're reaching

Possession, consumption and sale of all drugs should be 100% legal, you st*toid fuck.

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>Because the creation of cp is abusive
Rape is abusive, underage or not, I guess recording it abusive act can also be abusiveand should be illegal (but ofc this doesnt apply to murder vids). But how is some 16 yo camwhore broadcasting herself (streaming) willingly to the world is abusive to anyone? And how is recording it remotely by user who will never even interact with her in any way is a crime?

>some people that will do exist out there somewhere.
Yes, the entire lot of humanity is, practically speaking, is stochastic. There might be some idiot right now jacking off to fox new now.

I wasn't argument that I'm not at all immoral, I was just arguing cp is immoral, fucktard. Good one though.

I don't have time to play your stupid game, just trust when i say: you're a moron, and you're "argument" makes no sense in context.

Those 1s and 0s describe content which is deemed illegal.
The specific sequences of 1s and 0s could not have been generated randomly in any feasible timeframe.
In many cases the 1s and 0s were generated as the direct result of illegal behavior, such CP production.
Saying "It's just 0s and 1s!" is about as defensible as "I didn't know the law!" Both arguments try to avoid the point.

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>I was just arguing cp is immoral
Yes and user was arguing snuff films are immoral too, yet only one of them lands you in jail.

Yes, and? Why should owning footage of a crime be a crime?

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>might be some idiot right now jacking off to fox new now

It isn't that hard

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Again, equating murder with paraphillic sexual deviance. You're repeating yourself like the retard you are. Just kys.

>If you download a video of a little girl being murdered in a non-sexual way it's legal
>If you watch a webcam video of a girl in the nude you have CP
>If you get caught with that CP you can go to jail for longer than if you actually molested the child

>You can go to jail for moving your body's atoms through space in a certain way.
Defend this.

snuff films = / = murder
cp = / = statutory rape

owning a snuff film does not make you a murder but it does make you immoral

owning cp does not mean you actually raped that child, but it does make you immoral

>one is immoral, and the other isn't
They both are immoral, however, see this post, low iq retard

I agree. That's stupid. How can numbers be banned? I do not believe that arbitrary laws regarding what age the partner is or if the partner consents should determine if I can store files on my computer. For instance, biblical accounts state that at the time of her marriage to Joseph, Mary was 12 years old. Why should we limit the age of sexual exploration to 18?

>Caring about morality in 2019

>incitement to action is the same as free speech
>this argument has something to do with ones and zeros on a flash drive

Another faggot that jumped into argument without reading past posts
>(s)he thinks transistors are "number."
Yeah, go ahead and kill yourself

Snuff videos give incentive to murder, and for people to make more murder videos.
Child porn give incentive to molest children, and for people to make more child porn.
It's okay to watch a little girl get murdered, but it's not okay to watch a little girl have her life ruined by being raped?

What if somebody writes a book about it, describing the crime, with all the details and in depth information. Should it be illegal too?

WHOOOOOSH.

Reread my post, retard. Neither is okay

But one is legal and the other is not

Give a nice argument, oh wait, you don't have because you're a massive faggot. Go back to redd*t idiot

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>have her life ruined
Isn't that overexagerating it a little?

I didn't jump in you stupid fuck, I was replying to you after you replied to me

are both me,
>Again, equating murder with paraphillic sexual deviance
murder is not the same thing as owning a film of murder
child rape is not the same thing as owning cp, I didn't call them equal, you literally just equated murder with owning a snuff film.

Owning a video of murder does not make you the creator of it, nor does owning a video of cp, yet owning a video of cp is illegal while owning a video of murder does not. we are not comparing the crime we are comparing OWNING VIDEO of a crime

>people itt think that ones and zeros is a code phrase for cp

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Again, the murder video is a-okay legally. I am not making a hypothetical here. Reddit even used to have a sub dedicated to videos of children being killed. It's 100% legal. There are no laws against it.

MOOOOODS

How much capital or interest is generated in the "murder out of compulsion or the mass murder" industry, if you can even call it that. How much is generated from sexual exploitation. Yeah, paraphillic sexual deviance is much worse and more prolific.

You're just like this retard You're equating sexual desires with a morbid curiosity, and it's just not clicking in your head. The lights are on, but nobody's home.