Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >i7 8700/K or i7 9700K - Extreme setup for absolute max FPS >R7 2700/X - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000CL15 or 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value >GTX 1660 - standard >RTX 2060 - very high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 1440p >RTX 2060 - standard >RTX 2080 - very high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 - standard >RTX 2080Ti - better fit for 4K but expensive
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
It's overkill but if you have the money go for it.
Luis Wood
If you don't significantly reduce settings and/or resolution you'll be heavily GPU bound in almost every game
Colton Allen
Is it a meaningful upgrade over i7 9700?
John Long
>25% overclock >3% performance gain
>40% faster memory >13% performance gain
Remember that GHz is all that matters and only buy Intel.
Bentley Carter
not anymore so than the 9700k.
But if you've got the budget for it and you aren't sacrificing GPU performance or similar, then sure go for it.
Isaiah Martin
1080 ti or 2080?
Kevin Mitchell
2080, with nivida you should always get the newest generation, it will be supported longer.
Luke Garcia
At the price you pay for it? No. If you're only using your computer for gaming then just get the i7 or i5. The 2700x is extremely great at its price point.
Connor Cruz
>always pay more always buy Nvidia
For games? It makes no different. Hyperthreading is just more insecurity.
Matthew Cooper
I bought an A10 9700 instead of a Ryzen 3 2200G. How much did I fuck up? I find it odd that it can't run a 10+ year old game better than my old computer (i3 2120+GT 630). Is that APU really that bad?
Sebastian Brooks
I want to build a gaming machine. Primary goal is to maximize performance of minecraft with mods, and to also host a server for the family. If it also runs something like Destiny 2 on medium settings with good performance, I wouldn't mind that one bit. budget ~USD1000
I'm upgrading from 2x4GB of DDR4 to 2x8GB of DDR4. Theoretically there's no reason to get rid of the current 2x4 set up when I get my 2x8 right? Just add to it and have 24GBs of RAM? Is it better to switch the 8GB sticks with the 4GB sticks so they're in the optimal postition if that's still a thing?
no thats not good you need even channels or you will choke one of the memory channels just resell the old ram. its gonna be someone's salvation
Jeremiah Brown
Ah I see. I thought it might be, but I haven't kept up with anything PC related since my last build 3 years ago so I have no idea on most of this stuff anymore. Thanks user.
Brandon Richardson
That picture is horrifying
Jaxon Lopez
How much can i ask for my build?
i7 6700k with Cooler Master Masterliquid Lite 240 and Corsair SP 120 Performance Fans both used Asus Maximus VIII Ranger Brand New Asus GTX 1070 Strix OC Edition with warranty till june 2020 used RAM 2x8gb Kingston Hyper X Fury 2666mhz Black used EVGA 600w 80+ Bronze PSU used
Recently I played Prey at 165hz and the experience was great. I played fallout 4 at 120hz with an expanded distance rendering which was fantastic also. I also played the division at 160hz and that was fun too. i don't really have a justification for my purchases yet since i've been playing indie games like baba is you, but when Rage 2 and Borderlands 3 comes out, I'll play those at high refresh rates.
Ryan Watson
~1200 imo
Xavier Hernandez
vega 56 if you get it cheap (~300) or 580 for (~180
Parker Jenkins
At least a grand.
570, 580. 590 if you want the 3rd game. Vega56 when it goes on sale for
Grayson Green
Only at 144Hz
No, best to get i7 8700K if you're going Intel
A whole lot. Those APUs are the old Bulldozer type arch
Read OP, numbnuts
I don't really know but I'd think it's fine
RX 570
I would say 900
Dylan Hill
>No, best to get i7 8700K if you're going Intel no
Unless you're saving more than $50-70.
But if the price difference is less than that, you'd be retarded not to get the 9700k.
8 real cores is always better than 6 real cores.
Henry Moore
In the FC5 bench where the Coffee 6c/6t i5s stutter, the Kaby 4c/8t i7s don't. At this point there's no data on on future performance, and right now both the i7 8700K and i7 9700K can max all games but the 8700K is cheaper
tl;dr: no reason to buy anything more than the i7 8700K
Robert Hughes
9700k has a soldered IHS whereas the 8700k, that plus 8 real cores instead of 6 cores and hyperthreading makes the 9700k a better buy in my opinion
Isaac Ortiz
>Bulldozer arch CPU You fucked up. The socket for that kind of CPU is dead as well, so you'll have to replace the Mobo as well
Matthew Harris
Does anyone have experience with the EVGA 1080 TI FTW3?
Do you know if you can overclock it on the stock fan?
Also can you overclock your RAM to 3200 even if the ram is only 3000?
David Sanchez
a soldered IHS that needs to be grinded to work properly and reapplied
What should I add to give new build decent bluetooth and wifi capabilities?
Aaron Cooper
Did you actually hit "apply" at the top right? It should only be resetting back to default if there was a crash.
Sebastian Scott
Way overkill for minecraft, otherwise good. Stock cooler is fine for the R5 if you're not going to OC. If there's a specific game you want to play like Destiny 2, check benchmarks, keeping in mind that the benchmarks are at Ultra and it's better to play on High
Lucas Morris
So if I want to make a future proof computer that will last me for at least 5 years, should I get a 2080 over the 2070?
>5 years 2080 definitely. In 4 years the 980Ti went from top tier to low tier.
Angel White
>wanting to "future proof" by buying gimmick overpriced card that can't even run its advertised gimmick feature worth a shit, and are the last cards made on the most out dated node ever in the history of manufacturing nodes Dumbest post I've read all week on /pcbg/. And there are A LOT of dumb posts on here.
>pcpartpicker.com/list/WsHJr6 >$320 for a 1070 >Loud Gigabyte 1070 at that. >OEM windows >$1540 for a PC that's much worse than my $1000 PC. You're almost as retarded as the above guy. I mean not even close, but still REALLY retarded.
Motherboard alone is worth like $200. Even if it's Intel garbage that only works for 2 'generations', it's still the best motherboard you can get for a 6700k/7700k.
Don't get a CPU fan that's a scam amd stock is great don't get a evga psu get a refurbished 850w corsair from amazon theyre 40$ certified refurbished >you can probably get this all under 1000 if you buy the monitor used >Vega 56 is better benchmarks than a 1660ti and a similar $250ish price tag (fuck nvidia) >RX 580 is a shit card but you can save 100$ if you ONLY want minecraft for now and don't mind upgrading in a few years (this is kind of smart since GPUs dramatically fall in price every few years as long as bitcoin fucks off, the gtx 660 I bought in 2014 cost 330$, now its 60$ and can still play pretty much everything)
I guess it was relatively cheap, given the fact that where I live buying components separately is rather expensive.
What does the /pcbg/ think about this acquisition?
Andrew Brooks
2 tb hdd or spend a bit more for a 1 tb ssd? already have another ssd for windows and stuff.
John Butler
Ow. But thanks
Jayden Hill
impressive temps actually
Nathaniel Flores
if you got a SSD just get HDD and move around, unless your SSD is bloated
Isaac Mitchell
man if all user wants is Minecraft, RX570s are like $110-$130. Even that is kind of excessive, isn't it? Minecraft ran fine when I had a 7970 and a 570 is like +50% over that.
What game? 156W is quite low. Or are you setting a negative power limit modifier, or something? Afaik Vega 64 0% power limit is 210 watts. 56 is 170. I'm guessing you have a -25% powerlimit set?
For the most part, I wouldn't recommend that. I'd set lower voltage and clocks so it's unlikely to ever reach that 200W+ at 0% limit.
I wouldn't use HDDs at all if you can. 1Tb SSDs are only like $90-$120 lately and dropping a bit more.
Carson Richardson
yes I put my values back in state 6+7 and hit apply every single time I restart my pc i'll check that out
Gavin Ortiz
Resident evil 2 remake, 10 min standing in the lobby. >Or are you setting a negative power limit modifier, or something? You can see the max power right there. 159W at 1.212V
What is weird for me is how the 970 uses more voltage, yet produces less watts and heat than vega.
Parker Collins
well, I guess I want a general-purpose gaming PC that will also play minecraft with mods at high performance. several builds I've done in the past have inexplicably choked on the cubes; I really don't have a very good grasp of performance levels of various hardware.. I could hold off on D2 and etc if a minecraft-specialized box ends up being substantially cheaper
Gavin Gray
watts = voltage*amps
Ethan Morris
I have an ASUS VP228 screen that's been "blinking" for like a week, a couple times per hour I'll get a black screen for a couple seconds, and then it comes back. I'm pretty sure it's the screen and not the GPU or something since it doesn't do that on my second screen, and if my sound is set to come from the screen, it goes quiet when it blinks like that as well. Wat do? It's not even a year old, but on the website I ordered it from along with the rest of my computer I can't seem to find anything about warranty, I might just call on monday but if I can fix it myself I wouldn't mind doing that, my dad thinks it might be a capacitor issue but I don't know jackshit about screens (or much about hardware in general beyond the very basics)
Andrew Cooper
i did it boys. I put together my rx580/2600x build. had to get creative with zip ties to install the case fans since I'm reusing some form my last build and things didn't line up perfectly, but as soon as windows 10 is done downloading comes the moment of truth, i probably fucked it up and it wont even boot or will fry my ssd or something
James Rodriguez
wat a shock
Matthew Young
>2200G >$80 >Both GPU and CPU can be overclocked on low-end hardware >Buying a APU from a dead socket
You dun goofed bad
Luis Jenkins
I was thinking about upgrading my desktop and was wondering, whats the best thing to do with your old parts?
Hunter Green
I've always kept an old graphics card around just in case my current one goes out on me. It's been useful plenty of times.
Blake Cooper
You might end up having to send it to ASUS directly through their RMA
huh, D2 has much lower requirements than I expected I wonder how much cheaper a minecraft-focused build could be, how much CPU does that thread-hog really need
Levi Fisher
Destiny 2? That game is extremely well optimized. I was running at 2560x1600 at 60fps minimum on an RX580. At 1080p, it's easy.
If you want to spend more, Vega56 goes on sale for under $300 sometimes. But if you're using a 60hz monitor, more than an RX580, 590, or 1660 is pointless.
Julian Price
Ok, here's my revision for a slightly less overpowered D2/minecraft machine Do you think it would be up to driving that 75hz 1080p monitor properly?
PSU is overkill. Personally I'd get the 1660 instead of the 580
It's fine, but definitely get an R5 2600/X
William Bennett
The 2600x comes with a stock cooler, think that's good enough?
Aiden King
It's plenty if you're not overclocking
Henry Long
SHE LIVES and i almost shit my pants when i saw Speccy's temps on my CPU. thank god I double checked with ryzen master, I was going to be fucking depressed if it was 90C at idle lmao but nope right about 35
Just got a 2060 zotac twin fan and I get around 40C~ temps idle and 72C on full load, is this normal? (room temp 23ºC)
What the hell, for a second I thought the fans weren't working or something, my trusty 970 wouldn't get above 62ºC during full load in summer.
Also, best drivers to use? I'm on the last ones (149.67) and I see some missing devices in device manager, it seems related to the usb-c port the card DOESN'T have, lol.
bequiet.com/en/casefans/720 i have 2 of these (1 on rear + 1 on intake) is that enough to OC an EVGA GTX 1660 w/ 2 fans? does the precision auto OC do a good job?
Elijah Phillips
does it make a really big difference?
Wyatt Morales
I mean, yeah, depending on the RAM you got. If you're at 2933 or lower it's probably already running at the rated speed
Grayson Nguyen
Get a third fan and make it 1 rear 2 intake
Daniel Lopez
oh fuck my ram is 3200 i should probably turn that shit on then huh. also the connection i have with the onboard wifi on my mobo is fucking horrible, im hoping the drivers off their website make it somewhat better because a 400kbs dl speed is unliveable
Ryder Diaz
That faggy processor is AM4 for some reason but it's the old Bulldozer 28 nm architecture. I have no idea why Bristol Ridge exists. Still, that guy fucked up hard.
Eli Russell
does anyone here have the phanteks ps600s case, is it easy to build in, how is easy is it to clean/replace the mesh
Luke Watson
please respond.
Justin Long
Do I still need to be particular about memory speed/timings if I build a ryzen 1600 machine?
Benjamin Johnson
You have to connect the antennas and put them in a good spot. You did, right?
If you're on a B450 the QVL doesn't matter as much, but you still need fast RAM
Aiden Hall
3000-16 good enough?
Jace Martin
literally oc the fans to max speed, I do that and I don't care to sound. I can buy those shitty fans on Ali for like 15 USD per trio and their default software never goes above 70% anyway mite b time to update all that shit anyways. some gpu have a usb c port for vr stuff
Dylan Cook
don't belive in that get a good heatsink, it will help with thermal throttle
Connor Gomez
It's been proven many times that the stock cooler doesn't throttle the CPU at stock and it's quiet as well
I would get 3000CL15
Jackson Long
i did not. holy shit im a fucking brainlet. so i've had to use a laptop for the past 6 years due to extremely frequent travel so for some reason when the mobo manual said antennae i just assumed they were internal or some bullshit and totally didn't realize that cheap looking plastic dildo in the box was a no shit antennae.
Noah Foster
at idle nothing throttles with any workload any cpu will soon reach 75c, really don't know how it doesn't happen with amd
Lucas Thompson
should I lock my fps to 120 on my 144hz display if I can only manage to get 110-130fps?