Saw a lot of threads about email providers lately. But there is something no one asked yet in those threads

Saw a lot of threads about email providers lately. But there is something no one asked yet in those threads.
Which one is the best one for enterprise purposes? Maybe self host is better in this case?

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Gmail or Yandex. There is no enterprise edition.

mail.com

Yandex Mail
Mail.ru

don't keep your email in western countries because those are all sucked up by the intel agencies.

self host

Russian hackers at full force today, I see.

Depends on your level of paranoia
Absolute best would be to buy a physical server somewhere like Switzerland, Iceland or Panama and self host an email server
Next best is same countries but VPS - cheaper and easier to config but easier to image and hand over to the 5-0
Next would be commercially available products with a good reputation for privacy (protonmail, mailfence, unseen.is)
Next is some aws/gcloud self hosting - just marginally better than
Generic services (gmail)

>Switzerland
are you fucking retarded? it has THE WORST data retention laws.

O365 or Exchange

There are no good email providers.

You either go with botnet, self-hosting, or janky shit that will probably randomly die one day (e.g. Lavabit).

Botnet with GPG is probably the best choice, all things considered (i.e. Gmail). You're well protected against most threats, and you'll slip under the radar against state-level threats. With anything particularly sensitive, you can secure with GPG.

Own server no logs. Problem is e-mail is inherently flawed so there's no point to conduct activities through e-mail that may incriminate. Better to just use a VPS or free prontonmail and never ever use anything that will pwn you on it.

bait.
I live in Switzerland. Give me a source

enterprise purposes = self-host
No botnet, no email or password leaks, cheaper and self-sufficient

This guy has no idea about Swiss politics. If he did, he'd know how much the NDG and online-gambling votes crippeled digital freedom in Switzerland. The population are largely tech illiterate smartphone brainlets who got baited by muh anti terrorism and muh protect children from gambling. People don't spend even a second thinking about privay and software freedom. We may have dozens of political parties, but none of them, except the tiny Piratenpartei, have any stance on digital matters. Also avoid ProtonMeme, the fact that they're in Switzerland is meaningless, furthermore they keep their shit proprietary.

I may be wrong, but I think most of companies simply selfhost. But about small companies, I not so sure.

Russian hackers are useless all they do is deface web pages
FBI/NSA will throw you in prison for downloading warez

if you need a good burner email for signing up to shit, use cock.li

Anyone here know if it's safe to use something like RiseUp email on accounts for let's say, social media and bank stuff?

isn't that the leftist sjw email, i would stay far away

Please, define "sjw" in this case

riseup.net/en/about-us
it's pretty obvious, its cool if you want to protect your email from conservatives but the minute a socialist entity asks for your info is all over for you

Where does it say that they will give your information to a specific government?

>Which one is the best one for enterprise purposes?

Gmail (with your own domain name).
Because it integrates best with your employees calendars.

>Maybe self host is better in this case?
Hell no.
Self hosting is a nightmare: you have to make constant backups and if anything goes wrong how will you tell your employees?

why wouldn't they? if it's a socialist government and riseup is a socialist organization, look at who runs them, all Communists

mxroute for a small business.

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They're more like anarchists actually, not sympathizers to authoritarian governments

>We value, support, and engage in struggles for human liberation, the ethical treatment of animals, and ecological sustainability.

anarchists don't give a fuck about animals or the environment stop making them seem edgy they are simply wanna be hackers with a liberal lean

I use ProtonMail but it's pretty shit
>closed source backend
>no public API
>no U2F even after years of users asking for it
>charges a large amount of shekels just for a few aliases instead of offering unlimited randomised ones
>no ability to fully disassociated an alias with your account
>has censored accounts in the past

Thoughts on Tutanota for business?

>liberal lean
And that's bad? Do you support an authoritarian government?

no of course not, but i don't support socialism either, the point is moot, they are shady

Disroot, riseup, selfhost
Only good options

but all those things are basic ethics, not political stuff

Not all liberal stuff is linked to socialism, hell, you can even be liberal and right leaned

If you're being paid to set up a website on a server and get a support email for the site. Should it be self hosted or its better to be on a third party provider?

Just use it Tutanota or Protonmail.

>Which one is the best one for enterprise purposes?
Unless you're the bean counter/GM of ICT then you don't really have a say. Whichever is suggested by the ICT boffin who is sucking bean counters cock the best or whichever one ICT GM say was the top of "15 Best Email Providers" on techcrunch

>Maybe self host is better in this case?
Hahahaha - that's me laughing at your help desk trying to figure out how to even into their 1st escalation phone call.

Unironically the correct answer
Or gsuite with own domain

What

>you don't really have a say
>help desk trying to figure out

Kids and their attention spans these days, eh?

I'm not even a desk, not sure about OP, but anyway, you didn‘t even properly answered his question. Besides that, learn some english, it's good for you.

>I'm not even a desk
I too am not a desk. I have however worked on a help desk.
>learn some english,
I think at nearly 50 yrs of speaking it I've learnt as much as I need to.I suppose I can always learn more but at least I know muh reading comprehension isn't as bad as yours.
>it's good for you.
Indeed!

>you didn‘t even properly answered his question.

>check ctemplar
>they generate a pgp key pair and keep the private key
yea right

How about mailoo/netc?

Get a vps and setup an email server on it if the eula lets you.

Make sure the vps is not in the 13 eyes and in a smaller country in a place like africa.