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Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >i7 8700/K or i7 9700K - Extreme setup for absolute max FPS >R7 2700/X - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000CL15 or 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value >GTX 1660 - standard >RTX 2060 - very high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 1440p >RTX 2060 - standard >RTX 2080 - very high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 - standard >RTX 2080Ti - better fit for 4K but expensive
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
RGB is cool but wont keep your PC cool check CFM before buying kids, or you will be sweating with your PC!
Alexander Wilson
Reminder that zen 2 is delayed until August. If you need to buy, buy now.
Alexander Parker
check dBa
120CFM but 60 dBa would suck ass compared to 70CFM and 25 dBa
Charles Perry
What's the point of a noctua d15 compared to a d15s with an extra fan? Is the second fan even necessary for the d15s or does it cool well enough for most purposes?
Liam Campbell
It's a single fan so it doesn't fuck with your RAM heatsinks.
If you have clearance, the two fans perform better, 1 fan still performs decently though.
I figured that much, but is there any real difference beyond the fan? If I stuck a 2nd fan on it, would it basically be the same as a normal d15 aside from being offset away from the pci-e slot?
>cooling the CPU >then trhowing all that nice hot air inside the case imagine not knowing what a pull push configuration is uh, why is the CPU pump not horizontally oriented?
Juan Baker
Source of him saying >zen2 will definitely btfo 9900k in gaming? Since you screencap everything, you should have that, right?
Why do you use doublequotes when Jow Forums has quote formatting markdown, btw?
Adrian Richardson
They're pretty much literally identical besides one coming with 2 fans.
so what's the deal with CPUs like FX-9590? 8 cores, 4.7gz... is the only downside the wattage? it seems like a nobrainer for power/price ratio, what am I missing
Jason Ward
Hoses wont stretch that far sadly but the setup works incredibly well
Ayden Morales
5ghz but overall worse than its competition in every way
Evan Ross
>just ignite my shit up senpai
Samuel Rivera
I replied in the other thread, but they're essentially just old and have shitty IPC compared to modern CPUs.
Bros ... I can't fucking wait anymore ... I'm about to pull the trigger on a 2600x and a 1660ti ....
Nathan Torres
should be fine for 1080p60 or even 1440p60.
Josiah Moore
Ancient architecture. The clockspeed is meaningless. An FX 9590 running at 5.0 GHz will be slower in some tasks than an $80 intel or Ryzen CPU that's running 1.5 GHz slower and consuming a quarter of the power.
Carter Powell
Is the Ace good?
Daniel Wright
thanks
Chase Hall
Its trades blows with the aorus master in performance and doesnt have the awful bios, but the master will have slightly better temps. So yea its great overall
Gavin Fisher
160mm and 165mm clearance, they are huge
i think im gonna pull the trigger on NH-c14s, i wanted to save my PC of this desert brown and sand color but i dont think its possible to. if i could potentially add a extra shitty fan on top, it might hide the noctua on bottom but i dont think i have clearance
Ayden Cooper
What sort of videocard+cpu do I want to run 1080p at really, really high frames? Like, to smoothly drive games in a 144hz monitor
If you want to go overkill you can get 9700k and 2070/2080.
John Cruz
144fps is 2060 territory a i5 8700k wont choke you. to prevent sperging, i belive a 2700x will more that suffice for the 2060 also get memory with at least 2800 speed with low CAS
Adam Morris
The issue with the 2700x for 144hz gaming is it has more difficulty than Intel CPUs in maintaining a steady high fps, the 2700x will see far more dips into lower fps ranges.
Jonathan Price
9590 at 4.7GHz is like a 4c/8t Ryzen at 2.5Ghz. Way way worse than a 6 or 8 core at 4+. Frequency isn't everything.
Depends on game. Some games run 144-400+fps fine on a 2600X or even less. Others won't even run at 144 on a 9900k as they're locked to 60, 100, or the engine is just shit so they won't run much over 100 or 120 no matter how powerful your PC is.
Thomas Young
Just wait bro! For navi and ryzen 3000!
Jayden Carter
Completely depends on the game and how attached you are to the highest settings. 2080/Radeon VII/used 1080ti minimum unless you're happy turning settings down to medium and possibly lower. Keep in mind that many games aren't really optimized much past 60-100 Hz so the push to get some of these engines to run pinned at 144 Hz is pretty substantial. >9600k >2060 Bitch please. 9700k minimum, ideally 9900k, especially if you're playing highly threaded games like BF V.
Levi Baker
its not RGB, just black for what i read a dual fan config on that cooler is useless as well, then theres the issue noctua is just excellent at making fans. i could just ram a RGB fan on top supposely with the noctua on bottom
unless theres some issue pairing fans on top of each other that i dont know of
Ryder Clark
what's the breakdown on 2600x vs i5-9600k? why does OP recommend one over the other? for gaming
Adrian Taylor
Might as well wait until may 1st ... maybe amd will announce something ... if not ... then just buy that.
Adrian Russell
9600k for 144hz 1080p 2600x for 60hz 1080p or 1440p 2700x for 144hz 1080p or 60hz 1440p 9700k for 144hz 1080p, 1440p, or 60hz 4k 9900k for 144hz 1440p or 60hz 4k
Tyler Flores
Anyone else worried that AMD has been dead silent about Navi and Zen 2? Feels like something went VERY wrong with both.
Logan Ward
Ryzen should absolutely not be considered for 144 Hz gaming. I love what Ryzen has done for the market but this is just a stupid recommendation. 144 Hz is like the only niche intel still has on lock.
Jackson Peterson
even adoredtv is distancing himself from them. its not looking good bros
Gabriel Ward
over promise and under deliver, it's been the AMD way for years.
Wyatt Robinson
they are confident enought to slash prices on old cpu chips its one of those Just Wait (tm) situations.
Ian Smith
Lisa Su was shitting bricks during their CES demo. I think AMD is finished.
James White
>Anyone else worried that AMD had been dead silent about Zen, and that it turned out better than expected? >Anyone else worried that AMD had been dead silent about Zen+, and that it turned out better than expected? >yo guys Intel is talking about shit they're going to release 4 years from now omg I'm buying a 9700k right NOW hurry buy it NOW before Zen 2 comes out it'll be disappointing bros!
lmao imagine being this brainless
Yeah, the price drops on previous/current generations is telling that they expect to move Zen 2 fine.
I only suggested it at 1080p 144hz where it is suitable for some games.
Obviously intel is the main recommendation for 144hz, just look at my post, all the 144hz recommendations except 1 are intel CPUs.
Jason Jones
yea except there was literally no hype for zen or zen+, you fucking namefag shill
Easton Clark
Why did the namefag stop namefagging?
Jose Bell
1660 6gb vs 1060ti? for 1080p stuff, I want to run 75hz at least
Cooper Davis
1060 should be sufficient but tbqh depends on cpu and memory
Logan Taylor
I assume you meant 1660 Ti since there never existed a 1060 Ti.
Either will be fine.
Austin Turner
1660 and OC it
William Fisher
GTX 1660 Ti is an excellent GPU. Take it, my African-American assimilated cotton picker.
Robert Howard
Bullied by intel and nvidia chads.
Henry Anderson
Why does the retard who shills, lies, and manipulates not use a name while pretending to be multiple people under Anonymous when he's really just one person?
Exactly. Thanks for agreeing. AMD is being just as quiet and anti-hype about Zen 2 as they were about Zen and Zen+. They hardly said anything about Zen except that they were targeting a 40% IPC gain over Bulldozer and that clock speeds would be at least 3Ghz. They had one small preview release party to explain some new tech like XFR and such. That's it.
1660 should be fine for 75hz until 2020 games on the next consoles. But even then I'd bet it'll run them at acceptable looking settings fine at 75hz. 1660Ti isn't a terrible buy if it's actually at $280 or less, though.
Eli Phillips
Take this retarded shit to /v/
The only "PC builders" are zoomers who act like they know shit about technology, but can only build a PC - something braindead retards can do.
Hudson Hill
Delayed ... ? Then how come most motherboards are rolling out bios updates for zen 2 cpus? Or the prices of R5 and R7 are way down? Release is imminent.
Logan Mitchell
BIOS's are updated for ES to be sent out and tested.
Just because ES's are being sent out doesn't mean it's launching NOW, it just means that it's on the way, it could still be 3-5+ months out
Ryder Robinson
Except that multiple sources have confirmed that it's been delayed until AT LEAST August. And Navi until late 2019, most likely early 2020.
they dont need to make the bios public if it's for internal testing ....... i have sources in the mobo industry ... ryzen 3000 coming sooner then expected btw, just wait.
Christopher Long
Navi will likely be shit but I don't think they'll manage to fuck zen 2 up. They probably just have stock to clear and don't want to kill their sales with early hype.
Isaac Cooper
Poor Navi isn't even out and it's already dead thanks to the 1660/1660TI.
Kevin Walker
you sure the cooler fits on the case? anons talk bad of gigabyte isnt that too much storage
Sooner than expected, nigga it was expected at CES.
Caleb Reyes
He still believes it
Asher Hughes
fuckin LOL
Samuel Harris
Don't reply without Like!ing me
Jackson Torres
But you did the same thing
Sebastian White
lmao how ayymd pajeets will EVER recover?
Zachary Watson
I like Gigabyte, at least for my purposes. They have good tech support, customer service, and an "in advance" replacement RMA system.
The hope is 2060 performance with a little extra VRAM for $250 or less
Monitor is pretty trash, CPU is mediocre value. If you're going Intel get an 8700K
Yeah and my dad works for Hewlett Packard
Justin Howard
I run an i5 8400 and a 2060 at 1080p 144hz. The i5 is not the bottleneck unless you play some trash like asscreed that gets 50 fps on 9900ks
Wyatt Collins
will doublecheck cooler. just picked cheap something because the i5 didnt have stock suggest a better monitor pls 8700k? as in i7-8700k? shit that's almost a $100difference. Doesn't look worth the price to my ignorant eyes, tell me what the deal is
Jaxson Fisher
How likely is it that Ryzen 3000 will be out this summer?
Jaxson Ross
Multiple sources said late july at the earliest. Most likely august-september
Jacob Jenkins
Didn't it launch at CES?
Robert Fisher
au.pcpartpicker.com/list/kLBRWD about to buy it what ssd should i go with, what are the downsides of going with crucial mx500 over the more expensive samsung, os this motherboard good for the price, whats the downside of choosing the tomahawk over other boards, i heard it has bad vrms or something but im not sure what it actual means in realworld use what are some mice that are similar to g700 or rog spatha size and side button wise
Easton Walker
>76 replies, 18 posters Damn, that faggot has been pretending to be multiple personalities again. It's amazing how he denies that.
What are some tips and redflags for picking out a used pc parts.
Alexander Martin
Case is real meh, low airflow, old layout 5,25" drive bays, cheap buid quality. Used to be ok years ago for budget builds.
Jaxson Murphy
>all non AMD fanbois are one person Get paranoid, faggot
1440p monitor
Check OP PCpartpicker for monitors The i7 is top tier performance
Jaxson Morgan
I have a 1060 3gb. I recently received a Vive as a gift and I like it. What's the most powerful sub $300 card I can get used or new? No preference on it being new or used, if it dies in a month I'll just do what I've always done and buy an identical card off Amazon and return the broken one
I'll take those into consideration, should mention I have 16gb of ram actually now, upgraded a few days ago
Isaac Howard
1660Ti is basically your only real new card worth mentioning right now.
Matthew King
Also I live in the glorious god blessed United States of AMERICA
Brayden Lopez
Air flow, build quality and organization / price Fractal Design Meshify C or one of the more closed ones if you are willing to sacrifice airflow for noise dampening. Also cooler master h500 but it went up on price, used to be $80-90. also ok if you like the looks
Liam Rivera
pcpartpicker.com/list/M2d7LJ I would get the rog strix motherboard since it has a better vrm and is cheaper. I wouldn't skimp out on a cpu cooler if you pairing the 2600x with a 2060, you want the 2600x to maintain 3.2GHz. I just get a single 1tb m2 for simplicity and cheapness' sake. NZXT case is fine, but if you're willing to spend more, i'd go with a meshify c. I would also spend more on the power supply, since power supplies are the first to fail in a pc. The rest looks fine.
Oliver Hall
Vega 56 or 1070 1080 if you're lucky
Gabriel Richardson
The thing about buying used cards is that you have to be very perceptive to get a good deal. I remember an user furious that he got scammed buying a cheap 1080 that didn't actually work on ebay. The less stressful path is getting a new 1060ti, but there is merit to look used if you want more power than the 1660ti provides.