GNOME 3

I gave gnome 3 a try today and this was one of the first things I noticed. I felt like it had been designed for a phone and I was left scratching my head. I quickly uninstalled.

But gnome is vala

>c for userland applications
retard
also see youtube.com/watch?v=ON0A1dsQOV0

>not using Tk

Ho ho ho ha ha, ho ho ho he ha. 'Ello, my old chum. I’m gnot an gnelf. I’m gnot a goblin. I’m a gnome. And you’ve been, GNOMED!!!

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>why GNOME is the default linux DE
Because it is pushed by a shithat in a worst spirit of microsoft pushing windows, but with shills screaming about muh opensores, but avoiding mentioning that redhat's opensource is badically read-only where not a single commit or feature that goes against their corporate vision will be accepted. I genuinely hate redhat and think that company is a cancer on a body of linyx community, while for some reason it's canonical who gets all the hate.

It's pretty good.

the fm has issues, adds lag and stutter [maybe only for it's wayland]
pretty much an annoying overlay that mostly gets in your way
things are much easier to do in i3

GNOMED AND GNOME-PILLED

>he says as he benefits from the work of red hat such as firefox

>GNOMED AND GNOME-PILLED
So, uh, retarded? Got it.

This is what happens when you hodgepodge a full desktop environment without strong leadership / goals. You end up creating something like this abortion because literally the best GUI going at the time was photoshop-with-down-syndrome.
This is why BeOS was so advanced and clean for its time, because unlike X11 and all its cumulative layers of mismatched incoherent goals, there was a clear vision with people being paid to execute it.
Haiku is literally designed to conform to a spec from 1998 and it's still miles beyond the Linux desktop in terms of elegance and coherence.

Linux is a kernel.

I bet you know how to use neither language

I installed Fedora today and was absolutely appalled at how bad Gnome was. I've never seen a desktop this fucking retarded. I'm still in shock you have to get extensions for basic shit like three buttons and a dock.

why are there so many brainwashed cat-v cultists on this board?

Meanwhile nobody ever criticizes mpv for needing a script to load the next/previous item in a folder, Jow Forums is so full of hypocrites

>firefox
>redhat
I'm not using ff to begin with and every piece of shit redhat pushed like systemd or pa is complete cancer.

mpv doesn't consume 2gigs of ram for no apparent reason

another brainwashed cat-v cultist

Nobody's talking about memory usage, stop moving the goalpost

it's the default de because kde sucks and virtually everything else relies heavily on gnome stack to be functional so why not just go ahead and use gnome

>opensource is bad if it doesn't upstream everything from any and everything forked from it
ok son

How are thumbnails in file picker doing?

Patches welcome

tablet-tier interface
javascript LMAO
second gnome shell just for gdm
single-threaded garbage everywhere
animations are not smooth
capped to 60 fps (literally hardcoded lol)
mouse stuttering, lock-ups, and general lag
very bad scaling
generally a ramhog for no good reason and runs like shit even on modern computers

>single-threaded garbage everywhere
Example, please

Uh, literally almost everything? The entire compositor render pipeline is singlethreaded. They said they were going to change things around come Gnome 4, but I honestly doubt it.

I see you’re using gnome

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i like people who openly hate on systemd, it makes the rest of their posts easier to ignore

Using 3.32 to post this. Gnome + Extensions + Plank makes for a pretty good combo IMHO.

I spend most of my time using Cinnamon and i3 but thought I'd give Gnome 3.32 a shot due to the fact they are claiming to have made a bunch of performance improvements. Not only does it seems faster, but it seems less RAM hungry as well. I might stick with it awhile as 3.32 seems pretty decent thus far.

As for alternatives, there are lots of good DE choices out there. Personally I've never been a fan of KDE so I stay pretty far away from that. XFCE has made some real progress in their GTK3 porting efforts lately so I'm looking forward to the next major release of that one myself. I also like Cinnamon but in all honesty it's not particularly interesting. It's basically just a more reliable and less annoying alternative to Gnome 3.

Lots of people here are mentioning i3. That's also pretty good, but be warned: You only get out of i3 what you put into it. I ran it for about a year so I have lots of fun shell scripts written to automate various bits of functionality that most DEs just give you out of the box and that i3 does not. If you run i3, you'll be forced to really get to know your system in a very intimate way and that is decidedly not a bad thing. At the end of the day, the tiling WM really wasn't for me though. I soon realized all I needed was a tiling terminal (i.e. Terminator) rather than an entire WM.

YMMV. Just remember that the journey here is more important than the ultimate destination. Best of luck!

People who hate on systemd are l33t retards who couldn't find their cock with a magnifying glass and both hands.

based KDE boy Tyrell

nah they're just victims of the most successful brainwashing in the history of humanity, gotta give props to the eternally butthurt losers behind devuan who created websites like without-systemd.org

Were sent in 2004

Where?

aur.archlinux.org/packages/gtk3-patched-filechooser-icon-view/

yes, it's shit and it's still going downhill
use literally anything else

KDE is better than GNOME in every way

so it's STILL doesn't work without patches? in 2006+13?
holy shit

what's wrong with it?

Incredibly heavy for a Linux DE, still lacks basic features, UI more suited for tablets than PCs

Learn how to use your shell properly retard

Look at the bug tracker. People have sent in patches a few times, but they all were rejected.
bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141154&

Can anyone help me here?
Im realatively new to gnu/linux, installed debian gnome(me) on both my personal laptop and my work office pc. I had to find nice theme and icons and extensions to make it look nice, but it still feels like a tablet experience and i catched myself doing more and more stuff in CLI-based applications (thanks to watching people like L.Smith) because it just makes sense to me, its more simpler and i can actually understand whats going on, that flow suits me. But it feels like ditching the whole "fully featured" DE for a WM and doing everything in config files is still too far, id position myself somewhere in the middle of learning to do stuff without menus and such, but right now, random gnome notifications, extensions and loading time just pisses me of.
Any recommendation? Im willing to learn, just progressively, I cannot jump straing into a black box.
Took me 6 months to ditch our company's WebStorm IDE for Vim to get comfortable in it and happy to use it

Touched a nerve didn't I? I know how to do it in the terminal but I prefer to use my mouse whenever possible

*removes your favorite feature*

nothin personnel kiddo

no i meant the patch i posted, what's wrong with it?

mpv file
>this should open file2 for some retarded reason
Kill yourself

>rejected
That's not what happened in that particular thread, looks like the guy abandoned his patch

>>this should open file2 for some retarded reason
Where did I say this? Are you retarded?

mpv was deliberately designed that way. gnome is just irredeemable shit no matter what the devs do

Loading the next item is the same as opening it in mpv-world.

>mpv was deliberately designed that way
How does this excuse mpv? This is double standard, you shit on GNOME for needing extensions yet you praise mpv for the same reason?

mpv doesn't need extensions. You just have brain problems and expect nonsensical behavior.

KDE and Mate are both full fat DEs that are nonetheless more stable, more customizable and (for KDE) more feature rich than GNOME 3. Just install one via packages and give it a spin, they're both quite accessible.

>mpv-world
What are you talking about? All you have to do is pass * and your shell will expand it for mpv, my problem with this is obviously this requires you to start mpv from the terminal, you need autoload.lua if you want to start mpv from your file manager

Get a better file manager.

But it does, the fact that it's extensible is why it's wonderful.
>You just have brain problems and expect nonsensical behavior.
You're wrong because autoload.lua exists, this proves that I'm not alone, stay mad though

mpv just works. double click movie/porn on qbittorrent and watch/fap. love it so much i committed my optimized config to git

mpv *

you monkey

Such as?

Great, now try starting mpv from your file manager

Though I would personally advise most people to ditch a lot of KDE's accompanying software. Their image viewer, for instance, is pretty awful.

Worth keeping:
Okular
Krita
Falkon
Konsole
Dolphin
Kate

don't listen anyone. gnome is the best linux experience you can get. it is close to macos.

>best (...) experience you can get
>it is close to macos

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A FUCKING FOOT

Gwenview is the best Linux image viewer

nah man, gthumbs

gthumb cant even view raw. If you want to go the minimal route use sxiv, otherwise Gwenview.

more like optimized for laptops and touchpad.

is there such a thing as a photo organizer that's dual paned, has thumbnails and supports tagging? barring that what's the closest analogue to adobe bridge?

Only morons use autoload.

Ranger.

>literally can't name any technical reasons why gtk is "bad"
Does babby ever think for himself or does babby have any actual knowledge? Because babby keeps spouting memes to appear smart and babby thinks that no one will figure it out on a technology themed anonymous image based forum.

>uses multiple environments
Opinion discarded.

>Ranger
Thanks for the laugh, moron.

Literally the best file manager. It has a ton of commands you can use and you can call shell anywhere.

So everything other file managers have and can do?

Last time I checked, most file managers don't have an elaborate set of commands that you can edit. Also you can run a command from shell without having to drop into terminal.

I don't like RedHat/CentOS, but for critical (commercial) applications and support it's the way to go. I run Gentoo on my personal systems (with KDE), but CentOS on the work boxes. We can't afford the time/resources to be compatible for different flavors of linux, so that's the rationale.

It got rejected for being too slow. Which it is if you open a directory with literally thousands of images. They wanted a total redesign with work-in-progress gtk widgets.

this post fucking sucks
don't post it ever again

Based.

They implemented oo programming in c for gtk. It is actually even worse than just using c++.

KDE and Deepin are both miles ahead of the foot and they don't rely on its stack at all.

>Which it is if you open a directory with literally thousands of images
Anything GTK is slow with thousands of images. The only file manager I have ever used that would load thumbnails instantly in such large folders is Dolphin.

>deepin
deepin is still gtk

No, it's worse.

Right. That's why I thought it was silly as well since it enhances useability even if it isn't totally perfect. Well at the time, the patch had a few bugs I needed to work out, but everything should work fine now. I did make the choice of switching from a gtk popover to a gtk menu (needed it to change some menu entries) which pretty much guarantees it'll never be upstreamed. Maybe gtk4 will be better, but I'm not sure how I can test it.

>XFCE has made some real progress in their GTK3 porting efforts lately so I'm looking forward to the next major release of that one myself.
Lmao