Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >i7 8700/K - Extreme setup for absolute max FPS >R7 2700/X - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000CL15 or 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value >GTX 1660 - standard >RTX 2060 - very high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 1440p >RTX 2060 - standard >RTX 2080 - very high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 - standard >RTX 2080Ti - better fit for 4K but expensive
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
Spire cooler on my ol 1600 is a little noisy - good ~$50/60 cooler? Be quiet or noctua?
Caleb Murphy
GPU developer here, I work primarily in vulkan.
I have an intel integrated and a GTX 760 on my machine and can get them both working pretty fine. But some of my AMD clients are experiencing crashes and issues while my Intel and Nvidia users are just fine. So I figure now's about the time I get some kind of AMD card to put into my machine to dev against and ensure that my software works fine for AMD users. Effectively ending up with a machine that has Intel, Nvidia, an AMD gpu all in one(Yes the PCIE lanes will half between two gpus but that's fine).
I haven't gone AMD since the old Phenoms back in like 2009 or some shit so I'm at a loss as to how AMD GPU model numbers and architectures go.
What's a good and CHEAP "whatever" AMD GPU I should get and min-spec against that is about as approximately equal to a GTX 760?
I hear that GCN is basically like Intel's 14nm++++++ but GPU in that its a dead horse with little innovation
>approximately equal to a GTX 760? If you're talking new, maybe an RX 560, but a 570 can be had for just a little more and it's a lot more powerful
Samuel Sanchez
You can find RX570 for close to $100. It's not super cheap, but is by far the best value for the money. An RX560 is half the performance yet nearly the same price. You could look for used RX560. Might find them for under $50. It'll be similar to the 760, +/- 15%.
>I hear that GCN is basically like Intel's 14nm++++++ but GPU in that its a dead horse with little innovation It's not. People are retarded. Polaris is significantly different from GCN 1.0. It has massively better video encoders, as well. Vega is even more significantly different. However, what works on Polaris is generally still going to work pretty well on a 7970.
You could also simply build another machine with a 2400G. Its iGPU is about 10% weaker than a 750Ti when overclocked.
Scythe Mugen 5 or Ninja5 with Arctic 120mm PWM fans swapped on.
Nicholas Rodriguez
>Be PC newfag >Never built a computer before >Have a Pentium 4 machine in bad shape with a dead PSU and a more recent (2009 or so) used slim microATX case >Decide to migrate the P4 to that case as practice for when I build my gayming computer in the next couple months >Use the small PSU that comes with the slim case >Everything seems to be okay so power it on >Check the BIOS to see what I'm working with >Set all settings to something along the lines of "default for best performance" instead of "most stable" because I'm retarded >Everything works okay the first time I power it on, I managed to get into Win XP >Suddenly it shuts off by itself >Now it won't boot >3 long beeps every time I turn it on, then silence, then 3 more beeps >Ram gets incredibly hot to the touch in a matter of seconds >No image Oh shit did I kill this thing? I didn't have it running more than 15 minutes. Did that fuck up the Ram? How am I supposed to set everything back to how it was if I can't access the BIOS now? I have a lot of nostalgia for this PC, I really hope it's not dead.
This looks good. Something I realize now though is power draw. This machine is running 24/7 and I would like for the power draw of this thing to be pretty low and some of these RX 560 and above look pretty power hungry where as I'm just trying to get a "anything that touches AMD" card for cheap. Does the RX series have a cheap low-profile series that sips power but still uses a similar arch as the others? I'm willing for it to be less powerful than the GTX 760.
I'm considering just making a little "cheapo" build with one of the APU processors but that would multiply the price point I am imagining right now.
Aiden Rogers
The idle power consumption is only around 12-18W. It'll be lower than your 760. Also indie games at 60fps are probably only going to use a few watts more than that. It's just running flat out 100% that they can use a lot of power.
Hudson Reyes
RX 550 is what you're looking for then. Not very powerful but fairly modern architecture (2017).
