What happened to Navi bros?

RDR2 is as normalfag shit as you can get.

Hey! Listen!

As much as I want it to succeed this user probably is not far off the mark...
Remember it's still GCN guys, there's will be no revolution of any sort. Just another iteration of same old thing which by now is shit.

It got lost

Will CP2077 save us?

TI 3 happened. After that it all went downhill

What's the next gen after Navi to Wait™ for?

I can run classic wow at like a billion fps tho

There's no publicly known definite name yet, you'll see name Arcturus flying around here and there but nothing actually support the assumption that it refers to next gen, it could very well be a codename for a navi-based gpu for next consoles.
Also next gen is supposed to not be GCN-based but a new arch, so continuing the star naming scheme from last few GCN-iterations (Polaris-Vega-Navi) wouldn't fit with Arcturus being a new architecture.

It's coming out on such a fucking horrible time tho.
rtx is a meme to rip off people and cd red shit never runs well on amd for months

overhyped like pic related

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Computex disclosure.
Navi+1.
Doesn't have a public uArch name so far.
>Also next gen is supposed to not be GCN-based but a new arch
It's still the very much same SIMD ISA.

AMD GPUs will never be good again because of their philosophy of making it too general-purpose.
Such a GPU is a jack of all trades but master of none.

>reading comprehension

>Such a GPU is a jack of all trades but master of none.
That's every GPU ever since the dawn of unified shaders.

Navi is gaming optimized, like Polaris.
This time they are fixing the front end.

>120mm AIO
for what reason

Everything since Fiji besides Vega20 is "gaming a optimized".

duhh

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this

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No.

If it isn't successful I'm hoping it'll at least drop Nvidia's prices.

No and it won't.

VR is amazing

GloFo was unable to deliver 7nm in time so AMD does not have acces to enough production capacity on 7nm to deliver it's contractual designs and consuper products. Since TSMC is the only foundry providing 7nm to them the production is limited and they had to delay Navi.

GloFo's fuckup is really hurtig AMD, they were planing to use two differen foundry to deliver NAVI and ZEN2. Now GloFo can only deliver 14nm parts.

Resident evil 2 was great. Got some nostalgia feels remember my childhood in the 90s

Just Wait™ motherfucker

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>AMD does not have acces to enough production capacity on 7nm to deliver it's contractual designs and consuper products
TSMC is barely hitting full 7FF utilization by Q3, and that's with AMD, Huawei and Apple all aggressively ramping wafer starts.

shit game

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>Things we know about Navi
>Still-sort-of-GCN
>Less compute-oriented
>Small (initially)
>inexpensive

Navi is the first real bit of GPU engineering AMD has to show for in years.

With that said, it's not designed to compete at the mid-high or high-end.

We're talking sub-300$ parts, mainly designed for low-TDP uses such as consoles and APUs, which are coming either winter 2019 or spring 2020.

APUs: close to RX 570 performance
(cut 120mm Navi)100$: RX 580 performance
(full 120mm Navi)150$: GTX 1660 performance
(cut 220mm Navi)220$: Vega 56 performance, 2060 competitor)
(full 220mm Navi)300$: Vega 64 performance, 2070 competitor)

Perf / watt is on par with Turing, which sounds impressive until you realize these are 7nm parts while Nvidia is offering the same perf / watt @12nm.

You don't know anything about Navi, which in itself is the point.
>Less compute-oriented
It is, like every modern GPU since 2006.
>With that said, it's not designed to compete at the mid-high or high-end.
It is.

All I know is that if Navi offers better Perf per $ than NVIDIAs garbage line up I will definitely be buying from them, especially if the RX3070 beats the 2060 or better for less money.

We'll see come Computex. "Big" Navi will not be out until the new consoles launch, in 8-12 months from now, and even then, Nvidia will have their 7nm ready by then.

Considering it got set back another year I'm not hopeful.

That's definitely true, Nvidia has been destroying PC gaming by selling Turing for ridiculous prices. "RT" cores should not take up anywhere near as much die space as Nvidia claims.

Either way, these Navi chips will bring down the cost of 1440p gaming.

>"Big" Navi will not be out until the new consoles launch,
Big Navi is CES, unless AMD wants to pull it in, then earlier.
>Nvidia will have their 7nm ready by then.
7FF isn't magic.
>APUs: close to RX 570 performance
Not even close.
>(cut 120mm Navi)100$: RX 580 performance
>(full 120mm Navi)150$: GTX 1660 performance
>(cut 220mm Navi)220$: Vega 56 performance, 2060 competitor)
>(full 220mm Navi)300$: Vega 64 performance, 2070 competitor)
This accounts for 0 uArch improvements, which is dishonest to say the least.

Didn't NVIDIA claim that the whole reason for the RT cores is for Ray Tracing? Then how come they enabled it for the Pascal cards which don't have them?

it's supposed to be good but AMD hasn't made any competitive graphics cards for the last 5 years except for vega 56 and vega 64. radeon vii is alright but it's significantly better for CAD workloads than games isn't it?

You don't need RT ASICs for RT.
You can do it with compute shaders.
Said ASICs just accelerate BVH traversal and ray intersection calculation.
Turing also inherited faster caches from Volta, that also helped a hefty lot.
>it's supposed to be good but AMD hasn't made any competitive graphics cards for the last 5 years except for vega 56 and vega 64
Polaris family was a thing.
>radeon vii is alright but it's significantly better for CAD workloads than games isn't it?
It's a gaming card in name only.

Risk of Rain 2 my nigga, not the Brokeback Mountain game.

Enter the Gungeon also recently got it's final content update as well.

Nvidia will have their 7nm ready by then.
>7FF isn't magic.
If you look at Radeon VII, it has no actual uArch improvements over Vega, infact, it's simply a 7nm version of Vega, with some features cut right out.
495mm to 331mm
>20-25% faster

seems like 7nm is about 20-25% magic.

Nvidia could be lazy as hell, take a 2080 Ti, shrink it down to 500mm, and they would have a product that's faster than any Navi card will ever be.

I'm not saying Navi won't be a worthwhile product. I'm planning to buy one to put in my HTPC build.

I'm simply saying there's no way Navi will be able to challenge Nvidia at their flagship level

>Risk of Rain 2
My nigga I've been bored of all my AAA multiplats and old jap RPGs and late 90s console emulation.

>495mm to 331mm
486mm^2 to 325mm^2, and the actual shader array there is only ~220mm^2.
>seems like 7nm is about 20-25% magic.
Very much depends on your design.
>that's faster than any Navi card will ever be.
You don't know how fast bigger Navi is.
No one does.
>I'm simply saying there's no way Navi will be able to challenge Nvidia at their flagship level
Scaling it exactly two times up is trivial, it's Navi.

GloFo had 7nm in time, they dropped all the leading edge processes due to financial issues
Based user

Finally gave up waiting and got a used 1080 ti for $500. Maybe next year or the one after they might come out with something useful for VR, the Radeon VII just doesn't quite seem worth the $700

Bloodborne

Nothing ever gets released on PC anymore, or it's a 6+ month wait for a port.

Honestly? Fuck Navi, I'm waiting for Ryzen 3000 APUs

Samozbor