Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >i7 8700/K - Extreme solution for absolute max FPS >R7 2700/X - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000CL15 or 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value >GTX 1660 - standard >RTX 2060 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 1440p >RTX 2060 - standard >RTX 2080 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 - standard >RTX 2080Ti - better fit for 4K but expensive
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
>thoughts? A lot of nonsense in that loop for a single CPU and GPU. Done decently well although I don't like LEDs at all, but that's subjective. I do however like that little digital read out in the loop.
hey guys. I'm about to build my first pc. It needs to handle 3D design and Gaming quite well and also in the upcoming 5 years. My budget is around 1300 euro's. Is this list a good build or is my inexperience missing something.
Let me know what you think all the feedback is welcome.
Colton Ortiz
b450 tomahawk to save money why two 1x8 ram kits and just not a single 2x8 kit ssd is not the best i think has some problems before firmware updates as os drive 60hz 1080p. cant u get 144hz tn 1080p for that money
some points.. it ran at half the watts of the 9900k, it was thermally limited and it was a engineering sample not final clocks idk lad..
Lucas Cox
thread? >games performance will max out at 3600x >no 16c >no clocks listed
Connor White
We already know 100% there will be no zen2 APUs in 2019. Any "leaks" that include them are autoconfirmed junk.
Nicholas Bailey
someone suggested some good 2k monitors last thread
only now I noticed they are huge. any pick in 24 inch? if not I pretty much have a idea of what I want
Chase Nelson
Why is Gigabyte garbage? Thanks for the PSU feedback i was wondring that. Isn't the m.2 ssd way better then a harddrive?
Brayden Green
Where does it say the date you dumb pajeet? Also these are zen+ apus, not zen 2.
Wyatt Perez
>2k 24" why so tiny
Elijah Rivera
They use piss quality VRM that overheat and throttle under moderate load. You can get SSD that are exactly as good in real work use for half the price.
Kevin Diaz
Fucking power rangers m8. That's what I think of it.
For Ryzen, only even CAS latencies are supported above 2666Mhz and CL 14. Anything above that will be rounded up to the nearest even number. 15 becomes 16, 17 to 18, etc. Either try your luck with CL 14 or better yet try to overclock to 3200Mhz.
Nathaniel Richardson
my face is literally 45cm away from it
Blake Garcia
>>no 16c 16 cores has been confirmed to be non existant by several sources.
You have to disable the Gear-Down mode in BIOS. If an odd CAS latency is set, all Ryzen processors automatically drop down to the next even CAS latency setting if Gear-Down is active.
Ethan Lopez
>better in multicore = better in singlecore typical retarded animefag drone
Michael Bell
Oh okey. but the CPU is good for this application?
Chase Rivera
Remember when the 1700 beat the 7700k in a video rendering demo? How did that turn out? :^)
Zachary Lewis
delete this sir, ryzen 3000 very good, 16 cores 5 ghz for $200 confirmed by adored. do the needful and wait for ces announcement
Xavier Cook
2020?
Juan Watson
There's no way a 6c/12t will be more expensive than MSRP for current 6c/12t R5s
Christopher Hall
honest question 16c16t is as good as 8c16t?
Noah Flores
there's if the new 6c/12t is better than the current one.
Tyler Russell
No, actual cores are always better.
Michael Foster
>is twice as many cores as good as half? no its better
Camden Gutierrez
Here's my opinion on your build but treat it with a grain of salt. In the end, always do your own independent research and look for help on different sites to get the full picture. This little forum for chinese cartoons enthusiast shouldn't be your only source of information. I don't know where you live but prices can vary heavily from one region to another I live in Eastern Europe so I see things from my perspective. Games like strong single-core performance and low latency (Intel), 3D design thrives on more cores and more threads (AMD). You don't really need an NVME drive, crucial MX500 would be just fine for you. $500 RTX 2070 is only around 15-20% faster at 1080p / 1440p than the $350 RTX 2060 but it usually costs 35-40% more, but it also have 2GB of VRAM more. You decide if it's worth it for you. Like it was already stated, Gigabyte makes terrible B450 Boards. You would be better of if you could get the MSI B450 Tomahawk, or the MSI B450m Mortar. Mortar is a little bit cheaper and it's an mATX board but it packs similar VRM and a bit smaller heatsink.
Christian Brooks
Unironically pic related you posted is great, I have a set now and it btfos earfaggots like used klipshanon above. Audiophools fucking btfo by the sheer value these speakers give
Ayden Evans
Thanks for the feedback ill take it into account. Looking back to it i think you're right when it comes to the m.2 compared to a regualar SSD. i'll also take the gigabyte feedback into account from the Chinese cartoon enthusiasts.
Easton Gutierrez
Oh shit... That's too bad
Wyatt Stewart
M.2 is a form factor. It can be equpied with either NVME or SATA interface. You can get the Crucial MX500 in M.2 format as well which I generaly prefer as it usually only costs about $5-10 more but you have less cables to fuck around with.
Jose Flores
Holy shit I didn't know this and I've had ryzen for months, I just thought my motherboard didn't recognize my ram.
For gaming would I notice more improvement moving to CL 14 or 3200mhz?
Parker Moore
X470 Asus of MSI?
Thomas Collins
MSI
Michael Hall
for x470 crosshair vii hero for b450 msi tomahawk
Easton Moore
X570 next month. Wait.
Grayson Gray
There are plenty of good X470 boards below the $250 insane tier.
Easton Young
2x Toshiba X300 4TB (7,200RPM, 128MB cache) Or 2x WD Red 4TB (5,400RPM, 64MB cache)
I already own 2 of the former in my server in RAID 1 cause they were the cheapest at the time. But now these 2 are the same price. I intend to make another RAID 1 setup. This server is on 24/7, but the drives aren't in use 24/7. As in they're idle or they turn off most of the time.
Brody Green
Whichever one has the better warranty since speed isn't important.
Sebastian White
It would have to be insanely better, which it won't be
Juan White
So with a noctua d15s i'm getting 70 celcius on sekiro while playing at 1440p, is this any good?
Jose Bailey
>warranty when a hard drive dies you just take it out back and shoot it, no reason to send a HD full of data back to a manufacturer
Bentley Johnson
For a 9900k sure. Anything else, no.
Nicholas Reyes
Those speakers are fucking dreadful you clown.
Jacob Gray
I don't do warranty for drives other than if they die within the first month or something. Plus warranty doesn't always point to a better product.
Fuck it. I'll get 2 more Toshiba X300's. The 2 I have have been going strong for 2 years and I like how I can still fully Saturate my gigabit LAN even with the overhead of RAID 1. The arrays are backed up to an Ironwolf 8TB anyway if shit goes south.
Owen Cox
>not using an AIO or custom loop for your CPU in 2019 Why would you waste time with air coolers? AIOs are so fucking cheap and they work ridiculously well.
Ayden Rivera
My U2412M is dying, can't decide whether I should get a new one or spend 60 euros less and get a 1080p monitor. Are those extra 120 vertical pixels worth a ~50% price increase?
Alexander Collins
This,
Even a 120mm AIO is fucking ridiculous for how cheap it is.
Henry Williams
*leaks and destroys you're components* heh nothin personnel
Nicholas Ramirez
Have you ever used them? I doubt it.
Aiden Richardson
Getting ready to pull the trigger on this:
Dell P2418D ASUS Prime A320M-K Ryzen 5 2600 EVGA GTX 1660 Ti HyperX Fury 16GB Seasonic SS-620GM2 Evo - 620W Scythe Ninja 5 NZXT H400 WD Blue M.2 SSD 500GB (Salvage 2TB WD HDD from my current PC for extra storage)
Thoughts?
Alexander Martinez
once again the monster of poor thermal paste application has struck a poor innocent cpu
Isaac Williams
wth is that ram scythe what? is that just the case?
Cameron Edwards
I think eizo brought out a new 16:10 monitor not too long ago, I don't remember the exact specs but it was in the 24-27 inch range and cost 400$ with what the review called the best panel in class. Doesn't have to mean much but at that size these extra 120 pixels do matter to me. I upgraded to the 43 inch multi client display but the U2412 was a really good monitor. See if you can find one for cheap or just get the U2415 which is the newer version with better looks and USB 3.0 (and better input choices).
Joseph Barnes
>Manuel says put a pea drop in the middle >insert pea drop in the middle >it's bad REEEEE
Luis Butler
>A320M-K no. Burn that B450 or bust. choose a motherboard based on features, not price. A decent ~$80-120 B450 is the sweet spot.
Christian Lopez
if you received a sachet like a ketchup you gotta do like 2/3rd
if it was a smol syringe it's at least a half of it
RAM is the cheapest 2666 2 stick that´s availible here (central yuro), scythe huge cpu cooler. Will look into it, thx user
Carter Flores
also you have to manually spread for ideal cover. if you wanna be safe and use all of it by covering both surfaces it also works
the only over application that matters is if you got a shit paste that's electric conductive
Joseph Sanders
a shit controller on a built wrongly on purpose ssd
wd green is like that too
Christopher Wilson
For Ryzen, what is more ideal, Cal 15 3000mhz or CAL 16 3200mhz
Carter Green
>Will look into it, thx user recommended mATX B450 boards: Asrock B450M Pro 4 Asrock B450M Steel Legend MSI B450M Mortar
Xavier Davis
Is RTX 2070 a no no for 1440p?
Ayden Bailey
RTX 2070 is entry level for 1440p on the Nvidia side. Entry level 1440P on the AMD side is the RX Vega 56
Jaxson Ramirez
See
Aiden Phillips
ya because I am having the issue too, I could only get my ram at CAL 16 despite it being 15 and it's 3000 mhz, might try just overclocking it to 3200, does that work even if the ram out of the box is 3000?
Brody Sanders
>does that work It all depends on the RAM silicon and your luck. There's a chance you'll have to loosen the timings for stability manually (or they'll loosen automatically if you leave the timings to set on auto) when you increase the RAM multiplier to 32.
Jonathan Lopez
if it involves voltage increase you will shorten it's life spam
it's worth it if you plan on getting the good ram soon ish
Caleb Foster
So move the timing to 16, set it to 3200mhz, and hope it stays stable without a voltage increase?
Would moving the voltage from 1.35 to 1.37 really decrease the life span by that much?
Dylan Hall
Depends on the RAM. XMP spec allows up to 1.5v. Going up to 1.37 or so won't hurt shit.
Brayden Carter
>he buys gfx cards new LOL
Zachary Parker
do cl14 tbqh and the voltage increase will depend 100% on the stick. might be luck, might be smokes
Carter Moore
Would I need to upvolt to go to CL14 or nah?
Wyatt Stewart
>he buys sloppy seconds from miners yeah you know what dog that's gonna be a big yikes for me, to be quite honest with you
Michael Jones
Miners can't sell broken cards. Just be smart and don't buy from someone who has 12 other 1080's listed and its fine.
Charles Diaz
>MUH MINERS #1 cope of consumerfags
Kevin Walker
Since my graphic card died I'm plannig to buy a new one Here's my setup >motherboard: Asus-M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ >cpu: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHZ 6 Core >graphic card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Dual-X (dead) >ssd: Samsung 860Evo 500GB >ram: G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x4GB DDR3-1600 >power supply: Textorm TX600M 600W 80+ And the new video card I want to buy >MSI Radeon RX 570 4GB Armor OC (150€) I have 150€(max 200€) to upgrade the rest, do you have any recommendation?
