ARM is the future. Your phone already runs on it, but in the next 2-3 years, expect a massive push for ARM in the laptop/PC and server market. Every major OS will have an ARM version. Every laptop to be sold in 2023 will run on ARM.
ARM is the future. Your phone already runs on it, but in the next 2-3 years...
Lincoln Flores
Ian Long
but why
Dylan Mitchell
no
general-purpose RISC died out in the '90s. let it rest in pieces
Aaron Ramirez
Yeah man because people just fucking LOVE processors that run slower than celery ones.
Lincoln Adams
Those benchmarks weren't written for ARM.
Easton Ross
That's an ARM emulating x86.
Mason Mitchell
RISC V > ARM
Caleb Brooks
Windows and linux already run on arm, don't know about macos, ios does. Virtual machines to run older stuff probably.
Eli Cook
Those benchmarks were done on a version of windows running directly on ARM metal with efficient x86 emulation for 32-bit x86 software using multiple processors that QEMU can't do yet. Point is ARM fucking blows for PC use right now and nobody is going to want to use android or god forbid iOS to do any kind of work.
ARM will eventually crawl to 2nd-gen sandy bridge dual-core 2GHz i3 performance but by then we'll have 3GHz hexa-core zen 3 processors on tablets. They just can't up desu.
Andrew Wright
>expect a massive push for ARM in the laptop/PC and server market
We've been hearing this for so long now. I don't doubt ARM will get there eventually - their roadmap looks really solid - but as long as the likes of Qualcomm thinks it's okay to charge this much for this kind of laptop, they'll never get there
Nicholas Allen
This too, the whole point of ARM would have been competitively priced tablets. It's bad enough they run windows S (aka wankblows RT: return from grave) and have celery grade performance but then you have to pay nearly a thousand dollars to put up with all that.
Meanwhile actual celery laptops that run the full version of windows 10 are flying off the shelves for ~$300 at your local wallmart/costco.
Evan Thompson
>2 incompatible desktop platforms
i don't want this
Mason Nguyen
Even the freetards are in favor of this. System76 is working on ARM lappys too.
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Logan Morales
Of course they are, making things unnecessarily complex and harder to use is why we call them freetards in the first place. See power9 desktop shills.
Jaxon Russell
Intel will die soon enough, so I wouldn't worry about that.
Dylan Lewis
Wtf I got my new ryzen gaymertop for cheaper than that.
Brandon King
>PCs can't emulate PS3 efficiently, clearly PowerPC>x86
Charles Davis
Solution is a software store/distribution center that compiles everything on the host.
Elijah Ramirez
>Every laptop to be sold in 2023 will run on ARM
>ARM
>a woefully under performing CPU architecture
>used in laptops
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHa. fuck off, iTODDLER.
what do you think will happen -if- ARM somehow becomes a standard CPU in laptops? you believe people are just not going to need to use x86 software anymore? ARM will need to emulate x86 pretty fucking efficiently, not that they can at the moment. even the fastest ARM CPUs are still shit at it.
Justin Martinez
Apple will unironically be the catalyst once they start using their own ARM chips on Macbooks, and start unifying iOS and macOS. iPhone apps on the Macbook, unified App Store - the media will lap it up
Evan Perez
>Point is ARM fucking blows for PC use right now
will do for years to come. this cpu isn't going to ever be used in any computing that needs performance. I can see why apple would want to ditch intel (licensing, having their own custom ARM SoCs) because their customers have no idea what real computing power is. they'll keep short-changing them with yet another release of outdated and shit-tier level hardware made by incompetent foxconn employees, designed by the computing world's dumbest collection of fucking morons.
Gavin Ramirez
Of course there's always going to be performance penalties for emulating another cpu architecture but window's multi-core x86 emulation on ARM metal is more than 50% efficient. Might improve over time as well.
Remember they're not emulating the entire windows OS on ARM, just the x86 software being run.
Anthony Kelly
Oh my fucking god, were going to start calling ipads with the dick pencils computers now, aren't we?
Hunter Nguyen
>Apple will unironically be the catalyst
apple is no longer relevant in the world of computing or mobile computing. they haven't had a single innovative idea in a decade. nobody is following their lead in this direction. ARM chips are completely unsuitable for high end and performance based computing.
>Oh my fucking god, were going to start calling ipads with the dick pencils computers now, aren't we?
fuck no. they're toys for retards.
iTODDLERS BTFO FOR ETERNITY
Chase Diaz
This is actually $1000, though it does have a high quality OLED
>Windows 10 S
To be fair it costs nothing to "upgrade" to full Windows
But yeah, the whole Windows on Snapdragon thing, at this pricing, is dubious at best. Extremely niche. If you want LTE just tether to your phone. If you want more battery life, just carry a power bank (which can also charge your phone). For "Connected Standby" - what's wrong with an extra two seconds waking up from sleep? Had these been priced as Chromebook competitors they could actually be compelling enough
Lincoln Myers
Will linux have an arm version? If so, I'm okay with this.
Jack Mitchell
You were never funny. And your never will.
Zachary Thomas
>Will linux have an arm version?
are you retarded?
shut the fuck up, iTODDLER.
Samuel Parker
>full Windows
Would it even work then? Honest question, no idea how ARM wangblows work.
Linux ARM has been a thing for years already.
Colton Harris
Absolutely based.
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Jace Sanchez
>high end and performance based computing
Of course that's not the targeted segment. Look who's buying Macbooks and Macbook """"Pros"""". Why wouldn't Apple cater to their more-money-than-sense normie customer base? That's what has been making them bank all these years
Camden Russell
>Look who's buying Macbooks and Macbook """"Pros"""". Why wouldn't Apple cater to their more-money-than-sense normie customer base? That's what has been making them bank all these years
i couldn't agree more with that. apple's customer base are gullible idiots.
Lincoln Ward
UWP apps (those from Microsoft Store) work natively. x86 apps work under an emulation layer. x86 apps can be recompiled to ARM32/ARM64. x64 apps are out of the question
Blake Cruz
Linux even had RISC V, MIPS,SPARC or Power version
Aaron Thompson
>ARMshit
Not even once.
Gabriel Lopez
>x64 apps are out of the question
So no bibeo gays like cowadoody: revenge of the sith on ARM "computers"?
Nathaniel Ramirez
AMD >>>>> ARM
That's how bad it is.
Grayson Morales
So still better than intel? Really fucking terrible.
Lucas Murphy
x86 games should work, as long it's not using OpenGL 1.1 or later. So original Skyrim, for example. should still work. No idea of the performance, though
Landon Barnes
Than ARM wasn't designed for fast computation.
Bentley Davis
x86 is the future. Your PC already runs on it, but in the next 2-3 years, expect a massive push for ARM in the phone/tablet and HPC market. Every major OS already has an x86 version. Every laptop to be sold in 2023 will run on x86.
Jonathan Torres
ARM is proprietary garbage and anyone who seriously wants to switch to nonstandard proprietary SoCs is a fucking retard
Matthew White
>noooo, you should be using gookbench!
Adrian Collins
Benchmarks are all bullshit written specifically for one result: the best result of whatever the benchmark's author wants it to be.
Dylan Perez
>significantly longer battery life
Sold
Landon Torres
> Let's get spied by Chiense instead of Muriifags
I'd rather be spied by muricans because they're incompetent
Joseph Lee
Non-VLIW architectures cannot be the future.
Jordan Young
>RM chips are completely unsuitable for high end and performance based computing.
*blocks your path*
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