Email

>not entering bullshit details
Amateur hour

They can't pull all that from his phone number dude

cant bullshit the phone verifying.

I have 2 Gmail accounts and I never entered the phone number

Did you create them on an android device?

>redditmail

I don't have a phone

Based boomer.
Also what year did you create them?

When did you make them though? Google changed the sign up process in the last 3 months to require a phone number for every new account.

>I tried signing up for Gmail so I can have YouTube etc but no fucking way is Google getting my phone number. What are some alternatives that don't have to verify my entire life?
sign up with a fresh browser profile

>boomer
I'm 21

Made the latest account a year or so ago

>Google getting my phone number
Burner phone

try again now. it wont work.

Then how the fuck do people without phone contracts make Google accounts?

Simple, they don't.

this
compelling argument

Just search fake phone number. How difficult can it be

Is it actually possible to have a YouTube account without gmail?

>please enter the verification code

It sends a 6 digit code and won't let you do jack shit until you enter the code. It also knows when you use those online SMS services too.

Guess I'll have to buy phone verifications from bhw now.

>not diving headlong into the botnet
the fact that i can take a picture on my phone and access it anytime i want on photos.google.com or throw e.g. my car insurance into drive.google.com and access it on my phone is convenient as fuck, if they want to use that information to advertise sexy 2d foxgirl singles in my area, i'm ok with that, i use adblock anyway
that said, gmail in particular doesn't really offer anything over every other email provider aside from maybe the save to drive option

I just went through the sign-up process and the phone number was entirely optional, what the fuck are you niggers smoking

what device?

Run your own email server OP. I run one using mailcow but you can use mail in a box, iredmail, ect. all are super easy and you can customize it like you want.

I am a true technogeek, so I use outlook.

>tfw locked out of old gmail account
Fucking Google. Anytime my IP changes it freaks out and thinks someone else is using my email but now it's just completely locked down.

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>he thinks it only goes as far as ads
Before you know it they'll have their fingers in everyone's pie and will be able to easily centralize their power making the hegemony of the google empire inevitable. Its dumbasses like you that have made the world go to shit. The weak will fear the strong. In time

Try cock.li

god you're fucking stupid. you know what else can be used to centrally access my shit at any time? My fucking nextcloud instance and nobody can spy on me! kill yourself you stupid neet, you're the reason why google is getting the upper hand
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>you're the reason why google is getting the upper hand
wrong. *we all* are the reason.

>new ips: 1
your business and mine are irrelevant to google. they're dominant because everyone uses them for search and because most smartphones run android and most people don't change defaults.
if every single person on this board personally boycotted google, it wouldn't impact their business model in the slightest. even if you somehow manage to convince everyone you know that google is bad, they'll still use them because half of them don't even know which things they're using are google and the other half don't really care as much as they might claim to.
refusing to use their software will have literally zero impact on their actual business. the only thing that can interfere with their business is something that threatens their position in search or their smartphone platform. the eu forcing them to allow users to change defaults could have some kind of impact, but it's limited to the eu, so it's not as disruptive as it could be.

Retard. You are dumb, just taking that small step is huge and helps push things in the right direction. look up rule utilitarianism then. have some respect for your privacy dipshit

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You're being monitored, cataloged, and probed every single day of your life by big companies whether you actively use their shit or not, so there is no point avoiding doing so because they will actually make you a bigger data point target because you're not in their net already.

Just fucking submit, the best thing to do is participate and move to pushing for more privacy by law.

i don't care about my privacy because i don't put anything into google that would in any way impact me if it got out and i'm well acquainted with a wide variety of moral philosophies; you may want to consider that rule utilitarianism is only one philosophy of a great many.
you vastly overestimate the impact that just not using their shit has as an individual. the fact that you feel good about it does not change the outcome of the situation. if you don't want to use them personally because you don't want to give them data, that's fine, but please don't try and fool yourself into thinking you're actually making a difference. at best, it's armchair activism. if you actually wanted to make a difference, you would need to not only recognize what kinds of things you can do to actively disrupt their business model, but you would need to invest a great deal of time, effort, and/or capital into actually pursuing those things.

Tutanota is great!

I also love sucking cock!

Rude.

i use protonmail with my own domain costs like $50 a year i think

this makes it automatically distrustful

You can register a "Google" account with any other email provider. And you get access to all of Google services except Gmail. You will get any emails to the service you use.

Tried that. It still demanded a phone to verify for some reason.

i made one maybe a month ago or so also a fb account, without any number, maybe just use chrome to make the account without any extensions. also using chrome to shitpost because dont have to solve captcha

Chrome bypasses captcha? Is this a subtle way to make people start using Chrome?

Platinum Og Kush

Based

giving someone your phone number doesn't mean they can then access the GPS in it.

ovh VPS with, postfix running on it, since I don't really trust the VPS I was thinking of getting some sure of reverse proxy to my home server so the actual server software and tls certificate runs on my home server while using the ovh VPS public IP, but what's the point? Everyone uses gmail anyway ;_;
If I setup like explained before I increase the likelihood of server failure/downtime and no one will ever email me from their own server anyway, so I bet just keep running the mail server on the VPS.
>fucking way is Google getting my phone number
I don't want to encourage usage of google NSA services and I strongly recommend against it but I still have to point out that if any of your contacts has an android phone with cloud botnet thing enabled then google already has your phone number anyway :/
>What are some alternatives that don't have to verify my entire life?
protonmail doesn't support imap unless you pay for it, protonmail is also probably a honeypot together with tutanota.
If you want imap without paying for it your best choice is probably cockmail though it doesn't look good on your resume.
As a non-american I also use a local mail service from my country for government and bank stuff, since it those emails come from within the country it's better to have a small circuit than having the data cross the oceans.
tl;dr unless you convince your correspondents to use gpg (impossible in practice) there's no way you're going to use email while escaping the botnet.

>google
>busyness ethics
stopped reading there

jewmail fuck off shill sholmo your days are numbered

Outlook for work, Tutanota for personal.

I use gmail for throwaway shit or when I need Google stuff, other than that I use protonmail.

They can find information on the current holder of a phone number from the provider, in the US at least.

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Your phone number, jesus christ why is everyone such a tinfoil hatter?

>muh privacy
fucking hell, you faggots act like your data isn't already out there and that your data being out there is somehow gonna affect your life in any meaningful way. billions of people, you're not special. literal worst case scenario is a targeted ad for whatever dildo you've been talking about with your friends which you can freely ignore and hide. drama queens

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Internet giants are actively censoring right wing activists often under pressure by governments especially in Europe. There's no guarantee they won't use this data in the near future to "shadowban" you ie blacklist you from jobs, deny you credit, or just dig dirt on you.
You may think you're not in danger because you're an American but you could be having a hardline socialist in charge of your executive and and by definition of your intelligence/security apparatus too.

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christ almighty.... not looking forward to a generation of crybabies such as your good self being in charge of everything in 20 years or so.

based samefag without shame

10s of thousands of companies already have your phone number, including Google, you dumb dumb baby fuck. This is just transparent because it's used for security, and you need to interact with the SMS

Where does all this paranoia come from?

Everyone say it with me:
IF YOUR THREAT MODEL INCLUDES NATION-STATES, EMAIL IS THE WRONG TECHNOLOGY
Email (IMAP + SMTP) does not support end-to-end encryption, period. There are extensions to the protocol that do e2e, but these only work for servers that support them. So if I send an email from my protonmail to my friend's AOL mail, you'd better believe that a bunch of people in the middle can see what's being sent.

Email is great for what it does, but if you want anonymity and end-to-end encrypted messages, you should be looking elsewhere.

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U sending nuclear missile launch codes bruh?

> not hosting your own email server
> not have email address at your own domain