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Why isn't there an open source mobile OS?
Thomas Foster
Jordan Edwards
LineageOS
Ryder Johnson
Android OS...
Justin Evans
AOSP
Carter Murphy
is a botnet
Gavin Reyes
Theres a ton. They get no hardware or carrier support.
Asher Johnson
firefox has one and ubuntu touch is there too, they are all shit. that indian company jio used a mod of the firefox touch os to sell millions of pajeets feature phones that can run watsapp and jewtube. thats how tseries became no.1
Ian Martin
bitch lasanga xd
Ethan Hill
I mostly blame locked bootloaders.
Gavin Nelson
but still open source.
Isaac Phillips
There's no money in it.
Gavin Mitchell
UBports
Halium
postmarketOS
Maemo Leste
Henry Hall
Android is open source but not available preloaded on any phones. Every single company right now gives you a closed source derivative of Android.
OP there are a shitload of open source mobile OSs though. Like LineageOS, crDroid, etc.
Angel Sanders
Hi leddit
Joshua Howard
You mean Android? The most popular OS in the world?
Henry Cooper
by popular, do you mean most liked? because thats windows.
if you mean most widely used, then that's minix.
Noah King
you mean KaiOS?
Robert Miller
No, in both senses Android, Linux, is the most popular OS.
Owen Hernandez
next you'll say "i was only pretending to be retarded"
Jackson Martinez
Stop posting, wrongo.
Parker Jenkins
That's closed too
Logan Nguyen
> Android is open source but not available preloaded on any phones
Yea, nobody says you automatically get an open source OS pre-installed. That's a different concern?
Install open sauce Android or Linux on your phone like you install Linux on your desktop machine. Problem mostly solved.
Samuel Adams
Let me know when I can buy a phone with it pre-loaded. It's not worth the effort otherwise.
Easton Lewis
There is no ARM hardware with open bootloader
Eli Ross
>*blocks your path*
Xavier Cruz
>KNOX
kys
Jack Mitchell
But there are, just few?
Likewise, there are also pretty much no x86 with open BIOS preinstalled and most even don't allow one to be installed. Completely open firmware also is rare. I'm really not convinced your desktop/laptop computer are completely open sauce.
It's an minor concern in practice for most people since you're mainly running the OS and problems mainly come from not having control over that.
Parker Rodriguez
>What is a custom ROM
inb4 "Muh PajeetROM"
Luis Wright
was about the bootloader, not the ROM.
Chase Wilson
>open source operating system
>still botnet
Colton Bailey
>Why
It mostly comes down to hardware manufacturers providing binary blobs and no source code to phone makers instead of getting drivers into the upstream Linux kernel. Noticed how Android phones have ancient "linux" kernels like version 3.2 or 3.6 or something like that? And these kernels frequently have a lot of other changes beyond just the drivers, so much so it's barely right to call them Linux kernels anymore. Of course, you can't have the source to these special kernels required for that hardware.
This problem gets much worse due to the wildly different SOCs and designs. There's x86-64 laptops from HP and Lenovo and Dell and Acer with different looks and screens and so on but on a chipset/CPU level they are nearly identical. It's not like you need a special version of Ubuntu or Windows for each. You just can't make a general-purpose OS which works fine on all phones.
Brandon Price
Wow you are stupid
Thomas Davis
*blocks your path*
Kevin Ward
The bootloader on that thing is Botnet and shit, can't even boot from a USB and requires proprietary blobs to boot
Christopher Garcia
lenovo vibe K5 plus have open bootloader without knox or similar shits
Henry Brown
Android isn't a botnet but all the google apps that come installed and you can't remove are botnet
Angel Bell
What are you guys running atm? I got a S9 a few days ago and put LineageOS 15.1 on it, haven't installed any proprietary apps yet but I also carry two phones atm. I think I will install LineageOS for MicroG to get MicroG preconfigured, but I'm also looking into /e/ OS which currently is still in beta but looks promising.
Aiden Richardson
>mfw when I got an s9+ on the stock one ui rom and have had android 9 pie for a few months now.
Project treble isn't a meme
Brandon Johnson
I can install LineageOS 16 but the builds are still unofficial and I felt like going with the official builds
Mason Cox
Oof, the only reason I even dicked around with custom roms like lineage os in the past was so that I could get proper update support but now that OEM's have generally gotten their shit together I don't need them anymore.
Anthony Wood
Sailfish.
Blake Miller
Said the guy who thinks windows is the most popular mobile OS.
Jack Baker
Android is open source and people have spent years disecting it to create custom distros, and they're still not sure whether they've found all code that phones home to Google. It's so much of a botnet it's not even trying to hide it.
Camden Collins
>phone isn't compatible with any open source OS
>too soon and too poor to make a frivolous upgrade
Connor Lee
It's not fully open source, UI and some apps are proprietary.
Jeremiah Rivera
Can you grab all the open source bits and then finish it off with open source replacements for those?
William Jackson
Why are they a thing on mobile but not computers?
Joseph Long
Because historically PC is open platform.
To put it simply google don't want to let your remove their spyware
Asher Gonzalez
PureOS.
Samuel Foster
soooo...
Android is a botnet
Julian Gonzalez
I'm running Lineage on my S8, installed it today, finally like using my phone again
Dominic Walker
Came here to say this!
Alexander Rivera
The most popular mobile OS in the world is open source.
Robert Gonzalez
>To put it simply google don't want to let your remove their spyware
Google phones have an unlocked bootloader. It is hardware manufactures that lock their phones bootloader.