Update Linux

>update Linux
>downloads quickly, installs quickly

>update Windows (7 or 10, doesn't matter)
>have to spend all afternoon to update, if not longer

What the FUCK is Microsoft's problem? Do they host their update servers in fucking Bangalore? What causes this bullshit and why the fuck doesn't Microsoft do anything about it?

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You forgot
>hijacks your computer during updates

Linux us a kernel, you're a tech illiterate

I have everything on one drive and W10 takes like maybe 5 minutes to update

Thanks, you just reminded me to update.
Or he's just not autistic about muh GNU+Linux

To be honest, I don't mind the windows updates in my workplace that much. There are lots and lots of other reasons to not use it though. I think many professionals share this sentiment.

Friendly Reminder: Another thread died for this generic "Fuck Windows, Use linux" shit. We have dozens of these daily. As well as the "Fuck Linux, use Windows" threads.
It's all so tiresome.

>update Linux
>downloads quickly, installs quickly, then doesn't tell me if I need to reboot
>random stuff breaks in random ways if a reboot was needed and I didn't do this
>reboot
>be greeted by flickering black screen
t-thanks manjaro

Try updating Server 2016, 10 and 7 are fast compared to that

Couldn't he just say he forgot the password?

Your choice to use broken shit when mint or xubuntu exist

That's the gnufag mentality. Whenever anything breaks, it's always the user's fault. That's why nobody uses this garbage.

It's what he should have said in the first place but he probably talked to the cops without a lawyer or had a crappy lawyer
Now he's fucked because he won't be able to convince people he forgot the password

It has nothing to do with the speed of the servers. Windows update is just retardedly computationally expensive on the computer it runs on. Even though microsoft probably has better CDNs than your favorite linux distro, updates still take much longer because the time to install them dwarfs the time to download them.

>want to try a new distro
>everything is available via magnet links or torrent files from the distributor

>want to try a different Windows
>it is direct download from MS
>downloads fail partway through 9 times out of 10 for whatever reason, with or without a download manager, despite having a solid connection
>even try to download Windows and another file from another site at the same time to see if both fail. only the ones from MS fail.

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>tfw I don't know a single password for anything I use

takes me like 2 seconds, must be your network speed that is the bottleneck. Pretty sure I can max out my 300mbit connection on them, with no real latency to start. Update usually takes me like 30 seconds, and I shut down my computer everynight so I dont even notice them happening.

>>update Windows (7 or 10, doesn't matter)
>>have to spend all afternoon to update, if not longer

It's pretty much instant since I've bought an ssd

>no updates on this story anywhere since late 2017
I wonder if he's still in jail?

Only windows 7 (and probably 8.1) update is fucked up and it takes many hours to search for updates on fresh install, on windows 10 the updates are really fast and it comes with .net framework 4.7 and other stuff preinstalled.

Florida Man (Pic Related) tried that 'duh, i fuggeds' routine - landed him locked up indefinitely for contempt. And that was a random traffic stop
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Same
I use keypass and have several backups of my password database but only two backups for my key file which are very easy to destroy if I need to

retard

Florida man sure has a lot of run ins with the law.

Werks on my SSD and windows 10 LTSC

Very disturbing case. Turning my phone OFF next time i'm pulled over then dropped it between my seat where you literally cannot retrieve it without totally flattening your hand to a painful degree and gradually inching it toward you for like 10 minutes. Had to see it's even there. I lost it for a week like that once.

I tought people werent obligated to provide proofs against themselves?
What the actual fuck?

Land of the free

>I tought people werent obligated to provide proofs against themselves?
Using this as a defense would then be an admission of guilt, wouldn't it?

No it wouldnt, some people like their privacy.

>What the FUCK is Microsoft's problem?
What the deal with Microsoft?
Its not micro or soft.
>Do they host their update servers in fucking Bangalore?
What's the deal Bangalore?
Its not ban or galore.
>What causes this bullshit and why the fuck doesn't Microsoft do anything about it?
What's the deal with these questions?
They're not a quest or ions?

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Its almost like microsoft servers are under demand

How do they know he has CP in his HD if they didnt breach it?
Did this retard download via torrent or something?

But that's not what they're saying.
The amendment is that you cannot be made to incriminate yourself. So using it as a defense means that the drive does contain incriminating evidence.

You should be using a different excuse that doesn't imply guilt.

Yes, this does mean you are guilty of something.
But they cant PROVE it, if they cant prove it they shouldnt be allowed to jail you.

I modified this source to permanently and irrecoverably destroy an encrypted drive once physical security is breached. but if they are raiding your place then they probably already know what is on that drive.

rtner.de/parsled/

The amendment is designed to specifically to protect the innocent. Consider this scenario: Police wrongly accuse you of computer related crimes, and you truthfully deny your involvement and hand over your hard drive password because you have nothing to hide. After a thorough data recovery process, they find child porn images because some faggot spammed Jow Forums with underage girls and those pictures were saved on your cache. Now you're charged with perjury and possessing CP because of a crime someone else committed. This is why the 5th exists, and the fact that judges routinely shit on it is nothing short of tyranny.

Your lawyer would suck absolute dick if he couldn't defend you in that situation.

Most people can't afford really good lawyers and have to work with public defenders that are likely to look at your case for 10 minutes and tell you to plead guilty. You're MUCH better off having plead the 5th.

during my unfortunate brush with the legal system, 2 other guys and I were denied our 6 amendment right to legal counsel and were forced to plead out.

you are a fool if you expect the constitution to protect you from a corrupt and predatory legal system, if you cannot afford 10-20k to have a lawyer to say the magic words to get your case dismissed then the system will treat you as harshly and unfairly as it possibly can.

>update windows
>click one single button
>update downloads in the background
>it installs when you reboot your PC
It's not like Windows Update is a blocking operation, retard.

I completely agree with you. There's always a real possibility you will have your human and constitutional rights ignored if you lack the capital to buy your way into justice; this thread being case in point.

fucking this
i run server 2016 on an admittedly shit server but it takes an eternity to update

It's literally your fault if you prefer to eat shitty food instead of taking three minutes looking for better alternatives.
The same applies here, nigger-kun.

Regardless of the distro I choose, I won't escape Xorg being an absolute shitshow, whatever I use for audio somehow not working, and literally all DEs being shit one way or another. There are no alternatives, it's just the GNU way. Rather than making one thing properly, let's make 20 of them, all of them garbage, but when you run into any issue, the users of other garbage will tell you it's due to your shitty choice.

>not using Ubuntu, Mint, Debian, or Fedora
JUST

>ubuntu
Corporate fuckery trying to control GNU/Linux
>Mint
Enjoy your botnet
>Debian
Enjoy either your ancient packages or unstable garbage
>Fedora
Corporate fuckery trying to control GNU/Linux

GNU/Linux is dead.

>2017
fuck off shill

MS Update literally works with p2p so it's like bittorrent, you're also serving files as you download them.

Yes I'm serious, look it up yourself if you doubt me. It probably throttles your DL speed so you're forced to seed longer.

>not just using openbsd which pauses everything for a moment and even updates the kernel without needing a reboot

no man pages either for half the shit on the system

no info either

just a perfunctory "look us up on github' if you're lucky

Why does openvpn have a dns leak? I thought it was supposed to werk
Or is it my vpn provider (one of the biggest)

LTSC does not have this problem.
>tfw manual security/performance updates when you want that take 10 minutes

You can turn that off, I have it turned off. That's certainly not why MS updates are slow, they're slow because of the slow installation process not because of the download process.

Maybe that's because when you update in Linux you just install newer versions of some obscure libraries?
For an actual analogy, try updating from Ubuntu 18.04 to 19.04.

>update linux
>ui completely breaks with every window unresponsive blank boxes or kernel panic on boot
>wipe partition after googling how to fix for hours since reinstalling is faster

You're full of shit

Just use vanilla Ubuntu. Stop fucking with experimental garbage like Arch.

>being this stupid
Unless you're in front a grand jury, you can state you're exercising your fifth amendment right or just stay silent. You don't have to talk, even if they're yelling.

>noobuntu
no thank you. Also, my computer freezes because I can't run x.

I am talking about ubuntu. Xubuntu, lubuntu etc. Tried it maybe 3 or 4 times, apt-get would just break x or whatever. Boot into a wallpaper and nothing else. Guess I'll throw it out and try again in a few years... In a few years... Oh it happened again

That doesn't sound familiar. Did you fall for the Nvidia meme?

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AMD generally, sometimes Intel.

It wasn't the same thing every time. Different every time actually. UI would lose contents, panic messages on boot, something that would prevent me from using everything besides CLI, and the problem was so generic and out of nowhere searching for a solution was a shitfest.

>Update LINUX/UNIX GNU distro
>Still can't run exe files, can't run AutoCAD or Photoshop
>Have to resort to using an Emulator named Wine is an emulator

>1%CPU
>barely active disks
>Still takes an hour

Same, but there's still no easy answers for things like your desktop logon.

I'm no expert but problems with X and graphics sound like they could come from the GPU drivers. Try Debian, it should be almost impossible to crash it unless something is very much wrong.

Usually it happened during a distro upgrade. I don't think I've EVER has a successful distro upgrade.

>Usually it happened during a distro upgrade.
I see, it has happened to me too. The problem with Ubuntu is that their version naming forces a certain schedule. The version is always Year.Month and it's always either 10th month or 04. That means they have to get the new version out if that month is coming, no matter how unstable it is. It's pretty dumb way to handle it and people shouldn't upgrade immediately, wait a while for the bugs to be filed off.

I've changed to a rolling release model where there are no large updates, every package upgrades when there's something to upgrade so the changes are smaller. I use Debian Unstable which is their rolling release version. I'm also not the one who recommended vanilla Ubuntu.

Feels so good not to live in a facist 3rd world country where they can do anything they want to you.

>What the FUCK is Microsoft's problem?
What is YOUR problem?

> new PC
> load up Windows installer
> installs within 2-3 minutes
> reboot
> log in to my account, get my shit synced
> takes 30 sec max
> open Windows Update
> Update
> 90% updates installed within 2-3 minutes
> reboot
> smash that update button again
> 2-3 minute wait again
> 100% updated Windows 10
> full Win10 + updated system under 15-30 minutes.

OP confirmed for being a retard.

Lot of the legal situation in the US depends on the particular state, being that they are sovereign states still.

>go to car dealership
>picks shittiest car available
>blames other drivers

>go to dealership
>all cars are shit
>pick any of them, it's shit anyway
>the users of other cars start screeching
>pick another one, it's also shit
>the users of other cars including the one you originally bought start screeching

install gentoo

- Debian Testing
- Ubuntu stable (Xubuntu / KDE)
- Ubuntu LTS (Xubuntu / KDE)
- KDE Neon

These all "just work" and don't ever break.

You've obviously got an SSD. Increasing performance by orders of magnitude does make Windows faster, but it's not an excuse for Windows being slow in the first place.

but that's the point, it ain't slow anymore.
Win7 was slow due to how the update system was so shit. even there you can use the "Update Readiness" package then updates install within like 2 hours tops.

> having SSD is an excuse
BRUH... when they cost like fucking 30$, it's an excuse to not fucking have one.

Most GNU/Linux distros update orders of magnitude faster than Windows. Windows has shitty, incredibly slow IO. You're exaggerating how fast it is, too.

You're also on a fresh install of Windows 10, which isn't comparable to someone who upgraded from 7 or 8. I've managed to upgrade from Debian 4 to Debian 9 without any stupid issues like Windows upgrades introduce.

I cba to benchmark it but Windows 10 with the CUMulative updates do update fast. I mean, if you check HDD speeds, an Ubuntu 18.04 also takes forever to update.

youtube.com/watch?v=f2NtIN2cdmg

L M A O

> Debian GNU/Linux 4.0r9 was released May 22nd, 2010
> NT 4.0 Initial release date: August 24, 1996

IT'S OKAY.
Like mate, I don't mind if you want to shit on a system. But pick your fights. The updates are fine, the upgrade path is fucking fine. It works.
Yes, the spyware shit is awful, the constant nagware and stuff is awful. But the updates? Fuck off.

>What the FUCK is Microsoft's problem?
windows is too big to be rewritten from scratch
code base is now legacy
modern code and practice might not work correctly with old code base
dev turnover is too fast
management/shareholders want profit, devs want time, this results in status quo and nothing can change.

windows is doomed as long as profit is the only thing they care about.

>tfw there are people who don't know that Microsoft throttle the download speed by default on W10
>tfw you can disable it
ez

Linux is a small hobbyist project.

Windows is a 30 year old industry standard.

Of course Linux updates are smaller.

>That's the gnufag mentality. Whenever anything breaks, it's always the user's fault. That's why nobody uses this garbage.
BUT. YOU. DON'T. HAVE. TO. UPDATE. GENIUS.
You can also take a look at forums before doing so to check if other users are reporting issues.

Etch was released in 2007, not 2010, retard debian.org/releases/etch/. That's like saying that Windows 7 was released in 2020 because support ended in 2020. Windows 7 was released in 2009 and updating to Windows 10 is a nightmare, and takes forever. Compared to Debian where you can literally upgrade while using your system in minutes with no real issues.

And an average Debian user can easily upgrade from Etch to Stretch. It's literally no different than minor updates within a release. No crazy splash screens you have to sit at for hours.
The average Windows user absolutely cannot upgrade from NT 4.0 to Windows 10. Even power users find upgrading from XP to 7 or 7 to 10 to be extremely unpleasant and recommend a clean install to avoid tons of pitfalls and issues.

This whole "clean install" is a meme, just like the "you have to reinstall every X month" shit in the XP era. Things, that were just not true at all.

Of course at first I followed these dumb tips at the XP era. But guess what. Once I realized it's fucking dumb, I just kept my system. And wow, it didn't slow down, it didn't break. Fucking magic.

> can't upgrade
I manage networks, company IT infrastructures, and we had NO problems with XP, 7, 8 upgrades to 10 WHATSOEVER. Nothing. N O T H I N G.

I know we read a lot on the internet. Upgrades don't work, healing crystals, fluoride is a government plan to poison the citizens, etc. But you don't have to believe everything you read mate.

I mean, look at the video. What does the user do there? Just upgrades. It literally JUST WORKS. You believe its bullshit? Prove me wrong. Grab an XP, install some apps, and upgrade. Only time you would have to wipe is if you wanted to do 32->64bit.
But oh wait, you have to do that on Linux as well.

RIP.

It is true, I've ran into issues personally updating. If you haven't, then you don't have a particularly well-used computer.
For example, I ran into an issue where the Windows 10 upgrade process froze indefinitely for hours and hours until I killed a process with task manager. There were many others online with the same issue.

There are also various things that break that may or may not be related to being an upgrade install.
All the advice you get from microsoft support forums is useless shit like DISM and suggesting a clean install. Windows users have a culture of not reporting bugs because of how rarely they get fixed.

I've been using ubuntu for almost a year on my lap and honestly, the updates always go fucking smooth, nothing ever brioke.
Meanwhile updating windows on my pc, is fucking slow as shit and something always breaks.

>There are also various things that break that may or may not be related to being an upgrade install.
For example, google error 2502 and 2503. This is a permissions issue that occurs when installing or unistalling msi based software. It's been around since Windows 7 and is still present in Windows 10. I strongly suspect this is related to being an upgrade issue since people have reported that a clean install fixes it.
There are tons of workarounds available online, like running the msi through an administrator cmd prompt or adding a run-as-administrator right click menu, or granting your user full access to the Windows/Temp or Windows/Installer folder (which is a terrible idea). Anyone who wants the real solution has no choice but to make a clean install of Windows 10 and check the correct permissions of those folders themselves, since it's not fucking documented anywhere. Obviously the correct permissions aren't to grant normal users full access.

why doesn't he simply decrypt and prove to the court that he just takes his integrity very seriously.

it's not like all people who encrypts their hard-drives are degenerate faggots trying to postpone or circumvent their inevitable fate...

Linux is a kernel.

>thinking people have any rights at all

Laws are for making money and protecting money, user.

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That doesn't work for the commoners.

>Linux us a kernel, you're a tech illiterate
>Linux us a kernel
>Linux us
>us
>illiterate