>Mozilla about IRC: >[...]getting connected to this now-obscure forum is an unnecessary technical barrier for anyone finding their way to Mozilla via the web. Available interfaces really haven’t kept up with modern expectations [...] exple.tive.org/blarg/2019/04/26/synchronous-text/
I really don't want to have anything to do with this new Internet.
What's the point of using the lightweight IRC protocol over a slow and bloated JavaScript/HTML/CSS client?
Wyatt Bailey
Another genius move to add to the list of retarded shit done by Mozilla that shills will blame on Google anyways.
Thomas Hall
another day when Mozilla tries to piss of their small, shrinking audience Ungoogled Chromium > FurryFox
Chase Rogers
>unauthenticated there's pretty standard ways of doing IRC authentication, and you can configure a server to require TLS so you aren't just sending your login info in plaintext like, it actually just works, and client support is pretty good
>We are evaluating products, not protocols. "all the intelligent people left us, so now we're outsourcing for answers" can't wait for Firefox to become yet another Chrome fork at this rate
Blake Nguyen
>can't wait for Firefox to become yet another Chrome fork at this rate Honestly I've been waiting for this as well. I wouldn't be surprised at all.
Ryder Cook
>Mozilla sending away even more of their target audience Not even surprised at this point.
Jason Watson
>Q: Why are we moving away from IRC? IRC is fine! >A: IRC is not fine. God I fucking hate mozilla so much. It's a travesty that firefox is still the best browser as of now.
>harassment how many mozilla articles and blogs of late don’t mention this word? Remember if someone disagrees with you it’s “harassment” and “literal rape”. $10 they choose discord or some other proprietary shitware
Easton Miller
Who the fuck used Firefox for IRC? You have a million dedicated clients.
Are you bots? You're making a fuss out of nothing. In fact this is a good thing because it means Firefox is now less bloated. A browser shouldn't be a fucking replacement for everything. It should just render a page and if necessary call your installed software to do shit. There's a fucking torrent client in Brave. Disgusting.
Ian Thomas
I wonder what one of the core programs of the Mozilla suite was..... Maybe a FUCKING IRC CLIENT. How could they forget about ChatZilla so fast? >>We are evaluating products, Might as well encourage people to use Chrome too.
Adrian Nguyen
You misunderstand. Mozilla isn't changing anything about firefox, they're just shutting down their irc network that was used by developers and for support.
Leo Murphy
agreed. also bonus points for vitriol.
Joseph Reed
irccloud - not free, but at least as good as dicksword
James Cook
This isn't about Firefox having/not having support for IRC. It never had support for it in the first place. This is about Mozilla's development communications channels.
This statement worries me >We are evaluating products, not protocols. I'll place my bet now. Mozilla will soon be using proprietary Discord for communications. Screenshot this.
Hudson Gray
Kek, Mozilla dropping support for a deprecated protocol? Color me surprised. IRC is shit and should have been killed off years ago. No Unicode support, hack after hack to add even the most basic functions like nick and channel moderation, and netsplits out the ass. There's a good reason lots of people have moved on to Discord.
Jacob James
Oh, my bad. That does sound dumb. If they have users there they shouldn't have removed IRC. Knowing how retarded Mozilla can get the next thing they'll do is remove any contact information and force people to use a facebook/twitter group. Or discord, yes.
Alexander King
Indeed, we should centralize the web more. I propose replacing the outdated HTTPS with CloudFlare™, and HTML with Adobe Flash™.
Justin Gonzalez
>>harassment >Why can't Firefox have API interface X which does Y which I need if I want to make an extension I'd like to make work in Firefox? >We don't want that. >But why? Is there any reason that's not allowed? >I already said we don't want that, STOP HARASSING ME There were rare cases of actual harassment a decade ago and it was a minor problem. These days it just means "You asked me to explain or justify my answer or viewpoint".
Isaac Young
I love how the mindset is always >irc sucks >so we need to move to centralized Discord meanwhile there's a perfectly good Free Software solution right there. Pic related.
They didn't confirm it, but it's clearly their main intention. They would've confirmed it instantly if it wasn't because everyone is mad about it. The rust community already unofficially moved their official channel to discord.
Julian Adams
I could even understand if they'd move to a more accessible client. But potentially changing from a decentralized, open protocol to some centralized, proprietary garbage like Discord under the guise of anti-harassment and accessibility is what concerns me.
Ethan Morris
If they're switching to Discord I'm happy. IRC kept the zoomers away but now that they're using Discord that means that their developer chat will be filled with inane ramblings.
Nicholas Powell
I can't say I am surprised: Mozilla also killed Thunderbird, they seem to be against decentralized protocols.
Blake Cooper
riot.me, it's basically just discord but not botnet
Owen Foster
You mean riot.im? Isn't that just matrix?
David Taylor
shit yeah that lol Most people don't give a shit about e2e or privacy or anything under the hood so you should just find a client which looks and feels the most like discord, which happens to be riot.