What is the point of using Zsh shell?
What is the point of using Zsh shell?
Jose Reed
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Benjamin Allen
I have no idea. I always switch to bash when I have to do something more than a for loop.
David Cook
b/c im a linux noob and it was the first result on searx when i searched up "best loonix shell". i noticed that the tab completion was far superior to that of bash and i just stuck with it. for example, typing a command followed by a "-" and tabbing will show you the corresponding options.
~ % tar -
A -- append to an archive
c -- create a new archive
f -- specify archive file or device
t -- list archive contents
u -- update archive
v -- verbose output
x -- extract files from an archive
also, tab completion of nested directories is supported. typing .c/i and pressing tab twice expands to .config/i3 automagically. i don't remember this being in bash but desu i'm not sure.
Josiah Turner
for people who care more about rice than compatibility
i don't write scripts in anything but standard posix shell command language
shell scripts are already unbearably slow, anything that doesn't run in dash is even more so.
Samuel Walker
autocompletion is better with lists showing stuff
it fixes typos if you dont bother with capital letter somewhere
history browsing is easier, I write "git" and arrow up/down and cycle through all commands that contain git somewhere
and while fagts tell you ctrl+r does that in bash, it is worse and cant get back if you went one beyond, its really generally unintuitive
custom behaviour more easily done, want to have have hotkey that inserts sudo at the start of the current line and then returns cursor at the end? yeah, thats like 5 lines I have in my .zshrc
its generally just to be lazy, in a good way
I shoot myself before using bash, that history thing is incredibly important once you get used to it
Michael Jackson
Joshua Rivera
zsh can be used for scripting, but that's generally a bad idea since it's not as ubiquitous. You're supposed to use it interactively. Most people use it for the tab completion since it massively improves usability.
There's also oh-my-zsh, but I wouldn't use it since it's extremely bloated and destroys startup time (which matters a lot with quick terminal jobs).
David Smith
I use zim-zsh
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speed is not an issue
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Adrian Martinez
To use ohmyzsh. Of course!
Oliver Ortiz
post configs
Wyatt Watson
what are some disadvantages and incompatibilities you have personally encountered, if any?
Adrian Watson
Zsh became popular when mactoddlers started using the commandline. Doe to the utterly outdated bash shipped with macOS (Apple somehow fears the GPLv3), stuff didn't work and they switched to zsh. Then they wrote lots of blogs on how zsh is the better shell since nobody ever read the bash manual.
Jace Phillips
so it's a worse version of emacs ?
Cameron Ramirez
my only custom thing in .zshrc
add_sudo (){
BUFFER="sudo $BUFFER"
zle -w end-of-line
}
zle -N add_sudo
bindkey "^f" add_sudo
only thing that comes to mind is this picture code wont work
but anything longer than one line gets its script with shebang #!/bin/bash
Lucas Anderson
Bragging rights because bash isn't cool and hip enough
Brayden Green
zsh, bash, and ksh all have non-POSIX features are all basically compatible with each other, just not pure POSIX
Pure POSIX is completely insane due to backwards compatibility. It's okay to use the sane features ksh adds.
And no, shell scripting isn't slow. It's objectively the easiest way to work with the scheduler (calling parallel jobs) and it's the best glue language for grep, sed, awk (which are much faster than perl/ruby/python)
Nathaniel Parker
>i noticed that the tab completion was far superior to that of bash
It's the most annoying "feature" of ZSH. I want to hit tab to see what my options are, not cycle through them.
Nicholas Lee
brew install bash
Ryan Thompson
>I want to hit tab to see what my options are, not cycle through them
unsetopt menu_complete
Robert Price
Why even use zsh then?
Jaxson Rogers
Because it's still way better. Single tab pulls up the list of all completions, and tabbing again lets you enter the menu to move around or cycle through them
Easton Barnes
That's worse. I just want a list.
Andrew Gonzalez
fish > zsh
Levi Stewart
Then you hit tab once and don't hit it again? I don't see why you would consider having the option to use more functionality a bad thing