Does systemd have an NSA backdoor?
Does systemd have an NSA backdoor?
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yes
no
probably not, but it's shit for other reasons
>it's shit for other reasons
like?
>inb4 meme copypasta
audit the code yourself and find out
no but linux does
The NSA is using the intel ME
Probably.
if they're going to try and insert a backdoor, they'd probably be more likely to go after the kernel directly.
Yes
>They can only do one thing
said who?
They're powerful but they don't have limitless resources, there's other targets they want to devote effort to. And the kernel gets them more bang for their buck than targeting the init system, since it gets them a shot at things that use Linux but not Systemd, like Android phones and router/network appliance type of gear. The kernel is also a more direct path to pwning a system and, being that it's such a huge codebase, there's more places to hide in it.
>no jokes about entering her backdoor
I'm disappointed
SystemD is already bigger than the kernel.
The Apple Macbook Pro with Retina Display doesn't have this problem.
>mfw it's true
I have no face for this feel.
Don't tell lies on the internet.
Systemd: 461K lines (openhub.net
Linux: 35.5M lines (openhub.net
Yeah, yeah, the second link should be openhub.net
>if we concatenate all the lines, it makes it looks less.
Systemd is open source, so no - it doesn't.
seriously this
open source is a disease, use free software
God, that girl is adorable.
but the os is backdoored by nsa
SPECK was removed
i just checked my kernel .config and there is no mention of SPECK at all
It literally doesn't matter because Intel and AMD already have NSA backdoors printed right onto your CPU die.
>term is a disease, use term that means the same thing but has emotional baggage
>i try to act smug about things i dont understand
it's against the unix sophistry
Where do they do that?
what about selinux?
>quotes wrong post
systemdtards
You can't give an example.
This. Turn selinux off right now.
Not a visible one.
They probably have a plant guy that "looks like a good programmer but that purposefully adds very obscure bugs to the system"
Nah, I just audited the entire source, no backdoor whatsoever.
that's strange, I just audited it and found backdoors.
Good news for you guys then, finally after all these years you can actually have a compelling argument against systemd.
everything has a nsa backdoor
that's very strange. i just saw your comment and found that you're a compulsive lying cunt.
>hurr durr, they need to save money, so only one backdoor!
>meanwhile XKeyscore exists
>Does %object% have an NSA backdoor?
Yes. Including you yourselve.
Wasn't this because there's so much inline documentation?
Are you retarded?
how much resources do you think one needs to infiltrate kernel development team (contributing for several years) and push non obvious security hole which, if found out, can be interpreted as some bug or whatever. (remember heartbleed)
this, compared to XKeyscore is fucking nothing
tl;dr fuck off, NSA cunt
Apples to oranges.
are you implying backdoors doesn't matter? One is enough? :^)
nice try, NSA nigger
Proprietary blobs in Linux: ~50
Proprietary blobs in systemd: 0
>Proprietary blobs in Linux: ~50
incorrect, linux is GPL
that allows you to load potentially harmful binary blobs on to your system
XKeyscore is not a backdoor.
>allows you to potentially
so why do you do it?
did I implied it is?
my point was: if NSA can make something like XKeyscore, then pushing several backdoors really isn't over their budget.
That isn't the first lie coming from LF.
because i want my hardware to work
so, it's your choice. you bought hardware that requires you to do harmful things to use it, why are you surprised?
blobs are part of linux
they exist in hex or similar forms in the source code
thee are also additional firmwares which are also proprietary, right
wrong
systemd is free software. Stallman has no issue with systemd, I believe an user emailed him a while back.
Only part of it. Linux is 70% device drivers and firmware with unknown and/or proprietary licenses.
what makes you think im surprised, i was just pointing out the hypocrisy in crying about systemd being backdoored while using a kernel that actually has been documented as being the target of a backdoor at least once
Yeah that was an adorable attempt to recruit him to the cult of devuan, I still can't believe how nobody predicted the outcome given that RMS has shown to not care about the eunuchs philosophy by being responsible for emacs, I guess you can't be in a cult not be retarded at the same time
Correction, I guess you can't be in a cult and not be retarded at the same time
Why would he care about it? GNU's Not Unix.
bend over, i need to probe your backdoor
Exactly, the devuan basedboys were apparently desperate enough to rally support for their "movement" to commit such a retarded act
Jow Forums in a nutshell
No, but when we eventually move on to replacing the kernel we will need to be vigilant against clandestine contributors. Lennart has some good ideas for solving that problem, as he usually does.
leave, reddit
at this point apple probably hands off Mac OS X development to the NSA, they're the ones that add the new features
>leave reddit
You mean Jow Forums?
Though Jow Forums is pretty reddit.
Why bother when you can remotely access airgapped computers using the IME?
i told you "leave, reddit", not sure why you change my words and then act confused. is that what you 'people' on reddit do for amusement?
I think you should capitalize letters moron.
what doesn't have an NSA backdoor?
I shan't be upvoting this post, good sir.
what are "letters moron" and why should i capitalise them?
can't even make a correct post when you attempt to ignore everything what was said to you and change the subject
BTFO
Everything that's popular, working well and widely available is a botnet according to Jow Forums so yes. You should consider installing Plan 9 on a Risc-v computer if you want to be safe just in case.
probably several.