SSDs are SO FUCKING CHEAP

SSDs are SO FUCKING CHEAP

Why do you even bother to use magnetic storage these days?

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They ARE cheap if you get a small one to run your OS and your most important programs. Do you really need to store your Hentai and shameful disgusting pornography on a 600MB/s disk? No, you don't. The fact that you can substantially improve your overall system performance with a $20 128GB M.2 is a good thing. The price for the big ones will come down eventually too.

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For cheap mass storage.
SSDs are still far away from replacing HDDs in that capacity.

0.10 shekels have been deposited in your account

Because I live in reality.

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>2019
>SATA
just save up a little more and buy an NVME drive

SSDs are unsuitable for storing data long term, HDDs will still function even if you hook them up 20 years later

They got cheap pretty fast. Like a 50% cut from last year.

I do. I play unoptimized games that can have loading screens for several minutes off HDDs, but seconds from a SSD.
Literally tested. You can even feel the difference in loading times between SATA and NVMe SSDs.
Don't sperg out over what people spend their money on, it's obviously beneficial. There are no arguments against SSDs for storage, you're doing backups anyways, be it SSD or HDD.


>600MB/s disk?
Oof, that's slow (even with full cache).

Neither are suited for storing data long term. HHDs are just cheaper for storage and make more sense for such usage.
Want to archive, use tape. Tape recorded on today will still be readable in 30 years, that's longer than most MFM drives from the 80's are old now.

there is no reason to use magnetic storage i've had 3 HDDs fail in the same time that my vertex 3 has been happily working as an os drive damn thing will probably outlive me

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SSD went through tons of cost cutting mesure that can reduce lifetime or performances

This.
Until ssd can hold my 10tb of hoarded random shit I'll wait

>not checking what cells they use before buying

>Tape recorded on today will still be readable in 30 years
good luck finding a working tape reader in 30 years from now

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that 10tb drive is going to fail in 3 years or less

Nah I have it spread out over a tonne of drives in duplicate
Mostly old Tb shit shoved in a draw and I have drives that are over a decade old and perfectly fine

I have stockpiled tape readers.

>bothering with using m.2 at SATA speeds
NVME or nothing you brainlet

i wouldn't buy an unboxed ssd

>checking what cells they use
This can be tricky.
I have seen SSD advertised as SLC that used TLC.

It used both TLC for actual storage and SLC as a disk cache...
Marketing and tiny footnotes are a bitch.

I can get 16TB of HDD for like 350 dollars

They don't even produce SLC anymore I think. Even samsungs fancy v-nand drives are MLC.

NVME offers 0 real world benefits

*z-nand
and I misspoke they actually are SLC

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Or maby it was MLC can't recall now. It was about year ago.
However It does not change fact that it was and probaby is still misleading practice.
I wish I could remember this brand bitch to warn you...

Need motherboard manufacturers to build mobos capable of actually delivering full m.2 speed on more than one socket though.

there isn't much difference between 128 and 256.
even if you don't need that space, this would greatly increase life span of ssd.

If 256GB is "whoa, I don't need that much space" for you, you probably aren't writing enough data to the thing to wear it out any time in the next decade, either, even if its small and doesn't have much spare area.

I built a NAS and after I installed Linux to it it essentially doesn't get written to. It's just a boot drive, its only role is to be read from to start the system and then to be silent and low power thereafter. the storage HDDs get all the work. I used the cheapest 32GB drive I could get and its been fine for years.

>32GB drive
What if you wake up one day and desire to install Windows10 only to see your drive is no longer supported?

>I can get 16TB of HDD
16TD of noisy, vibrating, power hungry and slow storage. And if you're unlucky, they'll be sensitive to movement, too. Dropping a running SSD is not likely to result in data loss, even during an erase cycle.

When and why would you have a time where your drive is being fumbled around with by a retard while it's in use?

why would I downgrade my OS?

I don't fucking understand why people are still talking about SSD v. HDD
SSD for OS
HDD for everything else

ITS FUCKING OVER YOU MONGOLOIDS FUCK OFF ALREADY

PCIe/SATAlet...
only fiber + cloud.
Local hardware is obsolete

>renting your own data

>Micron
Are they actually good or is it just a Seagate doppelganger?

But there's also no benefit when it comes to the examples he gave, even if you're porn is HDR 4K @ 60FPS you wouldn't benefit from an SSD, and at that point a hard drive is beneficial. Unless either storage or money isn't an issue, there's no reason not to just get both and use them properly.

They will still exist because lots of people use tape for archiving, they're just expensive

They're alright

You can use SSD for everything except storing lots of videos or other bulk data now. 1 TB SSD system drive + a NAS somewhere full of HDDs is the way to go

When you have clients who are booting a windows virtual machine in linux as their base machine for security reasons (company policy now) they do make a substantial difference versus even sata SSDs in total boot time.

Yeah but I have an old case with 20 billion drive bays, so I'm going to use that up fully before spending money to move to a NAS

I could agree with that

All of my parents home video tapes have degraded.

that's the price for a 1TB SSD in my 3rd world poopsock
(1 USD = 667 CLP)

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>cheap
Nigga I spent 70 burgers on a 4tb mechanical hdd. It works fine for my NAS

>haha just get tape bro haha just bee yourself

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>Gets them for 15% the price they normally go for (Micron 5100's are expensive for plenty of reasons)
>Still 5x as expensive as spinning rust per TB if comparing used, or 3.6x as expensive vs new rust

Nah ssds are cheap enough for other uses too. Like video game storage and laptop drives (the less moving parts in a mobile computer the better). But yeah for general storage and network/media drives, ssds are pointless.

I told myself I wouldn't buy any more rust last year but I still went and bought a 8tb external HDD for $130 two weeks ago. SSDs are still too expensive for a media hoarder

There's LTO5 drives on amazon for like 500$. If you're going to store 100+ TB the low price of the individual cartridges will make it economical

They have other uses too. Scratch disks for video editing comes to mind. Gigabit internet can saturate hdds if you're seeding simultaneously too so I sometimes download directly to my SSD instead of archive ssds

Tfw that's about the price of a 6tb where I live. Wish I could get 8tb for that.

>tfw you have 8 7y old Seagate drives working 24/7 that Jow Forums told you were going to die in less than 5 years

True.

HDDs are still cheaper. I just bought an 8TB WD drive for $140. You can't even get 2TB of cheap SSD storage for that money.

This, except it's 6 9 year old ones for me.

Only if you aren't running the HDDs in any kind of RAID

Why the fuck are tape drives so expensive though?

Low volume and businesses will pay basically anything for them.
It's like how there's that dell mini optiplex which, compared to another one, only has a RS232 port but due to some companies NEEDING an RS232 port Dell will charge $60 USD more for the mini optiplex with the port.

Small market. Most people dont have petabytes of data to archive

You know you can easily convert that old chassis into a DIY NAS?

NAS is really just a bunch of HDDs slapped to a basic desktop system. Getting ECC support is the annoying part though thanks to Intel's silly market segmentation shenanigans..

is the type of cell that important?

So you use ssd only to shorten boot time by few seconds? Do you reboot every 30 minutes or what?

capacity, and because I physically migrated my HDDs from my last desktop into my current desktop as extra storage.

it's more about how its silent (boot HDDs don't always like to stay spun down, the OS can read shit off them at random times) and that using an m2 drive to boot from frees up another 3.5 bay for storage.

I'm using under 3GB of it btw, swap included. Even 32GB is big enough that it's kind of a waste.

I'm considering buying one for my laptop which is my main computer. I don't have access to a desktop, so as a result I treat my lappy with a lot of care to preserve its life. The biggest weak spot for a lappy is probably the hard drive... so I might want to get that sorted out.

At the same time I don't want to dish out money... Do you guys think buying a $50 ssd is worth it?

That's what I will do if I ever stop using that case, but my build is inside it atm and my primary monitor is my TV/media consumption device so there's no real point at setting up a NAS since it doesn't have to go anywhere.

Sure.

>single drive

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because I physically don't have enough room for 3.5" drives in my case due to radiators, I have all my disks under iSCSI over a 10G fiber connection

Maybe you should air cooling like a person with half a brain does.