Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY >List your uses e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors include purpose & graphics pairing >NO Speccy or "bottleneck checkers"
CPUs based on current prices >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper - HEDT
RAM >NEVER use only a single stick >8GB - very light use, and/or if you don't mind closing programs regularly >16GB - standard amount. If you have to ask if you need more, you don't >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2800MHz+ is ideal. Check "more" for true latency formula
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >RX 570/580 - value. >1660 - Slightly better perf for more demanding games on high/maxed 60fps+; > 1660Ti / 1070 / Vega56 / 2060 - higher framerates 1440p (WQHD) >1070Ti / Vega / 2070 - 60-120fps+ in most games on high/maxed >Radeon VII - may be considered; may need cooler mod to run quiet >2080Ti - higher framerates 2160p (4k) >Radeon VII - weaker than 2080ti >RTX 2080Ti - good, but poor value.
Other >Consider a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & HDD >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard >Consider 75hz display minimum; 60hz are old models >PLAN BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >AIOs don't change the laws of thermodynamics
Is there a market on eBay for older dead PC parts? Wonder if it's worth selling my dead 780ti, or if I should gut the parts for personal projects.
Christopher Hernandez
People do sell dead parts on ebay, like as "for repair parts". You aren't going to get much for it, if you sell it at all, but maybe someone needs the same cooler or something.
Austin Ward
Would an R9 380 and i5-4460 be enough to play Sekiro on max at 60fps? or at least medium settings?
Juan Myers
I've currently got a 3570k and a 1070 Ti running a 144hz monitor. Would this be a solid upgrade (mostly interested in single core performance)? I don't really know how to pick out a good motherboard, save for looking to see if it has all the slots I need.
Look at settings. 380 is like... less than an RX570 so I seriously doubt it'd play on max. Youtube is usually the best place to look at how specific games are run on a specific card/cpu.
youtube.com/watch?v=_jox93xCJ4U A similar Xeon and 380 struggles. You'd probably want at least a 4790 or 2600 and RX570 to run it at a locked 60.
You'd save a lot and get more consistently smooth frametimes with a 2600/X. You're going to be GPU bottlenecked either way. $560 is a lot when you already have the storage and GPU. Case is also mediocre. Granted, so is this one, but this one is $20 cheaper and still a tad better. Saves $120 while having a much better cooler and plenty of extra fans. pcpartpicker.com/list/BwjpCb
And link to actual pcpp next time.
William Edwards
Is there any real difference between GPU brands if the paper specs are the same?
Adrian Lewis
REMEMBER how all those fags tell you that 4.2GHZ on 2600 is easy, heck you can even get it on a stock cooler
youtu.be/n5cndooT3WQ?t=382 >we couldn't maintain 4.2GHZ even at 1.4125V and going beyond this would require chilled liquid Remember some people can't even get 4.0GHZ to boot no matter the cooling or voltage on the 2600. Remember not to buy into the lottery hype, and plan for actually getting stock performance, guaranteed performance, not golden sample lottery ticket performance Otherwise you are no better than a gambler saying >no no no this time I will win, I am feeling it!
Jason Lewis
im new to the overclocking scene. would you say it's actually better to buy locked cpus and motherboards or do i go for the higher priced unlocked and not push it as much
Aaron Hill
It depends on how much you want to tinker. Generally I would suggest everybody overclock or optimize the voltage delivery to their CPU since it's relatively fast and easy to do in comparison to for instance RAM. Locked cpus are better for saving costs and budget builds. As when you don't overclock your motherboard, cooler so on don't need to be as beefy either. If you are going AMD you should overclock all of them. If you are going intel then you have the option of going budget 8400/9400f for saving money and no overclocking. Alternatively if you are getting 8700 you really should get a K type, as overclocking those chips is really simple and you get plenty of extra speed that way. Over all doing a conservative overclock is very easy on an intel. Decide what your "reasonable" voltage and temperatures are. Set it there and then keep upping the multiplier until you run into instabilities, then tone it back a bit. Even if you are running "stock" you can usually optimize the voltage to be lower and thus run cooler/quieter.
Joseph Allen
Literally no one recommends to underclock a 2700X to 4.2GHz, dumb shill. You've been told this literally a hundred times over the past month yet you keep spamming stuff like this.
Pretty much. Just enable PBO on AMD CPUs or MCM on Intel CPUs. It's literally just one click for a stable performance increase, although voltage will be a bit higher for the results than you can achieve manually in the later case. On the former case, it's actually just better than "overclocking" as the 2700X is 4.35GHz stock on 2 core boost and PBO will push it to 4.1 all-core while overclocks are generally 4.1-4.25GHz.
Yes. The heatsinks and fans they use are different. Sometimes PCBs are different. Like the 1080Ti HOF and Kingpin have fantastic PCBs that are drastically better than others.
When you're looking at RTX cards, the situation is pretty fucking dire as you have single fan and/or milled aluminum block heatsinks on a 160-185W TDP card with the 2060, and tons of awful 2070 and 2080 models.
Or if you're looking at RX570s, something like the MSI Armor is pretty garbage, whereas the XFX or Armor MK2 with the factory overclocks and better coolers are both better out of the box and you can also get better OC results at lower noise.
>Literally no one recommends to underclock a 2700X to 4.2GHz, They couldn't even OVERCLOCK to 4.2GHZ you retard. Stop implying that they were downclocking it to that.
>You've been told this literally a hundred times over the past month yet you keep spamming stuff like this. Are you a retard, the video I posted came out today. This is the first time posting this. Are you a fucking AMD shill or something on damage control?
Connor Bennett
What's a good way to compare the fans and heatsinks and all that on cards? I was looking at a 2070 or 2080 specifically. How do you tell which of the models are bad?
Oliver Brooks
wait for other people to buy them first
Mason Cox
Used, right? Is a good model, though, which is what you should look for.
If it's new, Navi must be coming really soon for them to be trying to offload Polaris so hard.
By looking at them. You can generally see the heatsinks pretty well in the pictures. The pcbg-more link in the OP explains what to look for in a card. As for fans, that's hard to tell from the pictures other than gauging the diameter based on PCI slot height or x16 slot length relative to it. But even then, some fans are juts fucking ass like Gigabyte's and the diameter and number of them just doesn't matter.
Brands don't matter so much, other than to avoid Gigabyte ENTIRELY for both AMD and Nvidia, as pretty much all brands have great and bad, or mediocre and bad, or mediocre and great models, depending on which.
Juan Adams
3850X Release date when
Camden Fisher
Sometime after they announce whether such a thing even exists, I'd imagine.
Colton Foster
kind of got my reply, but could use more pcpartpicker.com/list/G4P37W I already have the CPU cooler, GPU, and PSU in that list. I want to re-purpose them. So I need a Mobo, CPU, RAM, and case.
>9600k >Z370 aorus >1060 6gb Get a 2600x with b450 tomahawk and a 1660ti or better
Michael Lopez
>to avoid Gigabyte ENTIRELY for both AMD and Nvidia, Is Gigabyte really that bad? I was planning on getting their RTX 2060 Gaming OC Pro with 4 heatpipes. It seems to have good reviews. What's so wrong with Gigabyte in general?
Samuel Powell
State what your use case is. Mark the GPU as purchased. $300 for a 1060 is obviously retarded.
>pcpartpicker.com/list/BwjpCb This seems to apply to you just the same. Or even save a bit more with a 2600. You're going to be severely GPU bottlenecked with any 4c/8t Haswell or later CPU and it makes no sense to get worse frametimes with a 6c/6t while spending more money.
For what? What's your monitor? What are you doing or playing? You never should have had a 1050Ti to begin with. It has never, in the years its been released, ever been a good purchase compared to the 470/570.
Nathaniel Morris
1080p, I mostly emulate 3DS, PS3 etc. But I also play modern AAA games. I built my pc back when GPU prices are high.
Andrew Turner
They literally give no fucks. They just throw an off the shelf milled heatsink and whatever bargain bin VRMs they have laying around on their lowest quality PCB and call it a day. Who gives a fuck about rma frequency when they cost nothing.
Parker Green
Sorry to cross post but say can be slow. Are there any adverse effects to locking voltage? I've turned on constant voltage and voltage control. I'm trying to stop my GPU from drawing too much voltage because my PSU is failing/voltage regulator is Fucked and I keep getting no signal or red screen. 12v rail goes down to as low as 10.9V during stress test so I'm sure that's the fault. It's the display drivers that keep crashing. So I've undervolted and underclocked the GPU it's works quite well but every now and again it crashes when it get pushed to hard still so now I'm trying to lock the Voltage to see what happens. Just curious. Thanks. I fear locking voltage won't affect the psu's own regulator
>State what your use case is. Sorry I posted it in last thread. I'll just make a new post. Thank you for replying tho.
Elijah Diaz
Buy a new psu you poor faggot. Go sell blowjobs on the street if neet.
Eli James
Well, would you say MSI Gaming Z is better? To me it seems like the Asus ROG Strix is nice but way overpriced for what it can do.
Matthew Gomez
youtu.be/PRz4U9GrM2w Oh yeah. You guys should check this out aswell. My boner for Lisa Su just went up by a million. She's got to be the most accomplished woman I've ever heard of and has one of the most amazing resumes I've ever seen
Jaxon Rivera
It's pretty decent, yeah.
Zachary Perry
>Buy a new psu you poor faggot. Go sell blowjobs on the street if neet. Lol. To think I'm the own that started the whole "suck dick" shit. Yeah I'm buying a high quality one next month. Got a pay cut last month and had to get my mom a good gift so I just managed to scrap through covering everything. I could get a PSU if I wanted to now but I'm looking for high quality this time.
Nicholas Nguyen
They just have terribly bad designs and they use the WORST fans of any AIB partner. Even at low RPM, their fans make a lot of noise and it is such a pitch that it penetrates the noise insulation which cases have.
Like Noctua and Arctic fans, for example, you can hear them perfectly fine in open air. But they are designed to have such a pitch that just about any basic case is extremely good at muffling it.
Why are you getting an expensive model of 2060 when you can get a good Vega56 for $300? I'd normally recommend 2060 for 1080p and Vega56 for 1440p when both are $350, but when Vega is $300 and the 2060 is $370 I'd still recommend Vega over it for 1080p. That Pulse card has an extremely good cooler despite being Sapphire's lower end model, as Sapphire low end > Gigabyte "high-end". >Well, would you say MSI Gaming Z is better? If you can get it for ~$320ish, yes it's far better. That single fan 3-slot EVGA was no sale for that price a few days ago iirc.
>Are there any adverse effects to locking voltage? To a lower voltage? It can disable some power saving features when it's near idle, at least on older GPUs. But at full load there is no down side, no.
As much as one retards likes to shill that Ryzen is shit for RPCS3, what he leaves out is that Intel CPUs aren't good for it either and you'll struggling for just 30fps in most games no matter the CPU. It seems to run no matter than the 2600x stock seems to run the game from what I can gather, if not worse, hilariously. youtube.com/watch?v=XMeA0koj1Ak Like here where the 8600k at 5ghz drops to under 15fps repeatedly.
Also, RPCS3 is Vulkan, not OpenGL. You might have gotten memed on that already, but it's too late
Coreteks isn't a good source, but wikipedia could have told you that she is actually very talented, has never been a diversity hire, and earned her way to the top. It's similar for Jensen, for that matter.
Tyler Nguyen
Even the 2700X runs RPCS3 better than the 8600k/9600k. So much for the >b-but muh TSX meme and lies. The people who shill that >Ryzen can't do PS3 emulation because no TSX instructions have looked enough to find the bad Ryzen benchmarks to know they're just as bad on those games for Intel and know that they're lying but don't care.
Friendly reminder that AMD is slower at gaming than Nv/intel and the market share figures show this.Intel made 8X more money than AMD did this past quarter. :)
Noah Moore
>Why are you getting an expensive model of 2060 when you can get a good Vega56 for $300? I live in Eastern Europe so prices differ significantly to those in the West and I had my fair share of troubles with AMD GPUs over the years and Vega 56 isn't that good to being with. Now that I have more disposable income to spend I hopefully won't have to deal with AMD GPUs ever again. I try to find a RTX 2060 that is durable enough to endure 4-5 years of use with ok temps and noise levels. So far I was thinking about: >Palit (the cheapest) >Gigabyte Gaming OC Pro >MSI Gaming Z >Asus Rog Strix (the most expenisve, over 20% more expanisve than the Palit)
Thomas Morris
Why are there basically no all-white fans? At most I've found them using black or clear housings.
Joseph Jones
I wish I could play persona 5 smoothly, but despite having a decent PC, it runs like absolute dogshit arse for me.
Landon Roberts
anyone?
Ryan Roberts
>decent pc What constitutes decent for you? The 2700X has been on sale for like $260 plus 2 games included iirc.
Get the Arctic fans with the white fans and paint the shroud of them white yourself.
Ah, so you can't ship from the EU where you can get Vega 56 for 300 euro? That sucks. The Gaming Z is a fine model, though.
Limiting to 100fps with Freesync is perfectly fine. I don't know why you'd second guess it like you are. Dell has gone way down hill. Look at Acer and Pixio. There is also the Mbest one if you can find it in stock which is just plain the best 1440p 144hz SDR 8bit monitor. Also don't look at 3+ year old models. The new panels are vastly better and better value.
Benjamin Brown
An old workstation work gave me instead of dumping. E5-2687Wv3 (10c/20t, 3.1ghz base, 3.5ghz turbo) Quaddro P5000 64gb of 1866 DDR3 ECC RAM Along with the usual m.2 SSD, storage drives in RAID and shit.
Jaxson Lopez
2133 DDR4* I'm a retard and typed wrong.
Gabriel Cox
Does anybody have AOC 24G1 or AOC 27G1 monitor?
Cameron Robinson
How long will my i7-2600 last? Looking for some cheap upgrade.
Eli Powell
Real thread:
Owen Roberts
I bought the AOC C24G1 about a week and a half ago, waddaya wanna know?
Benjamin Ortiz
palit gaming pro, I suggest that or an equivalent. 4 heatpipes, 2 fans, enough phases, usually on the low end of the price Or anything else that has similar characteristics with just a different name
>The new panels are vastly better and better value. But they aren't. Both the new Acer and Gigbyte Innolux monitors are getting a ton of bad news. A lot of BLB and glow, the gigabyte has over 8ms when running at 144hz and you can't run 10 bit. The hdr feature is also shitty and unusable.
Colton Lopez
Reminder that this thread was made by a mentally ill AMD shill, who is desperate to sell you shitty Vega cards.
This was the real cross-linked thread, more IPs and more posts:
Elijah Price
That's pretty sweet. I'm surprised you can't run at least as well as the 8600k does on that. The slow RAM is probably hurting you, though, too.
You're unlikely to have someone with those specific monitors.
As long as you want. Just go by a collection of reviews. The MSI Optix 144hz VA gets shilled a lot and I've heard good things. 1080p 144hz options which don't suck are very limited.
Camden Phillips
What're some good 24" monitors for watching movies and general web browsing/work? I already have two IPS monitors and they're pretty meh for movie watching. Went for a cheap 110€ VA monitor and returned it due to the poor quality. I don't have a set budget, but I'd like to not spend more than 150€ for a 1080p 75hz panel. Are there any reliable online ources that don't recommend only TN panels? Thank you.
>Spu llvm on 2700x Literally nobody uses that to play though. It drags its feet recompiling when you enter new areas. ASMJIT has lower peak performance but spends much less time compiling resulting in less stutters.
Jacob Powell
>1650 not even on the list
Christopher Price
It's shit.
Michael Collins
The faggot Intel shill can't even help people in his own shill thread and comes here now lmao
Kevin Hughes
Yeah I'm surprised as well. I thought it might be the ram, but was hoping quad channel would offset any bandwidth issues that may pop up. Other vidya all runs as one would expect, cinebench and the like as well. It's only RPCS3 which shits itself.
Matthew Carter
With the shipping costs that €300 would easily cost the same amount as cheap RTX 2060 which on average performs better. I see no point in paying more for less. Besides, I gave AMD way too many chances already and I had burnt my fingers every time. I will most likely do as suggests and grab Palit instead.
Jace Nelson
KINGSTON OR SANDISK
Henry Gutierrez
>Both the new Acer and Gigbyte Innolux monitors are getting a ton of bad news. Really? The v277u is innolux and was really well received from all I've heard. That Gigabyte one, yeah I heard a number of complaints, mostly the lack of OSD and using software instead though, but not any worse than the 3 year old panels
There is also that new LG VA though it's 32".
The ratio of ips to post is actually most lower there. And quit role playing.
Just any 1080p or 1920x1200 IPS from the past 2 years, really. They're all generally 99% sRGB support and 1000:1 contrast ratio.
It's not the bandwidth, it's the latency. Also try spu llvm.
Asher Wilson
SMARTBUY
Nathan Thomas
I didn't remember that my mobo doesn't have bluetooth. Can anyone recommend an adapter?
Andrew Perez
>24" >movie watchin >didnt like va that has best black levels and shit for media watchin >tn >dont like ips either what the hell do you want m8. as large as u can VA > IPS > TN for movie watchin
>Coreteks isn't a good source why do you say that? Not a big fan myself but I've seen a few of his videos and he does a good job at presentation and explaining the this and that.
Oliver Johnson
>same fagging There are more posters and less replies in this one. Stop accusing people of what you're doing.
Corsair or Adata.
Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7265 has both wifi and bluetooth for $18. It's M.2 1216
Levi Howard
Performance is the exact same with spu set to llvm, down to the fps. I guess I could be getting utterly raped by latency, since it does seem like my CPU/GPU aren't being fed. My GPU sits there are fuck all utilisation and my CPU just has some threads spike to 45-65% and then go to 0% while the guest RSX utilisation in RPCS3 sits there at 99%
Blake Rivera
Should have known it was meme and lies, the only thing they can do is meme and lie.
Nolan Cook
Would that fit on a Z390 mobo? Haven't really informed myself about wifi/bluetooth yet.
Levi Wood
Dude that shill is legitimately schizophrenic. He bumps his own thread and barely helps people. He's insane.
Anthony Thompson
i7 9700k has 8c8t and supposedly performs slightly better that i7 8700k
just imagine how soon this new i7 will be outdated compared to his outdated version
Liam Garcia
it's literally for notebooks at this point same thing if nvidia ever release a 2050
Jaxon Smith
So just more hertz?
Ryder Anderson
have you delided and reapplied the paste?
it's still pretty good. you might have issues with the core count and possibly motherboard replacement
Chase Scott
>Corsair or Adata. Wait corsair makes SSDs? Is Adata really better?
John Hill
>Just any 1080p or 1920x1200 IPS from the past 2 years Alright. Thank you. >VA > IPS > TN for movie watchin That I already know. I wanted to find out if there are any good VA options. They don't seem to be much better than my 1080p IPS panel. Thank you as well.
Noah Rodriguez
can it overclock?
that's really kinda awesome
really weird seeing all these old xeons being dumped in the market as gaming pcs literally eating away amd clients
Austin Ortiz
>suggests and grab Palit instead. Make sure you are getting the decent one that I suggested, and not some other "palit" one, as the quality varries a lot based on what model it is (for all companies)
