/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds and monitor suggestions; click on blue titles to see notes
pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>How to assemble a PC
youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g

Want help?
>State budget & CURRENCY
>Post at least some attempt at a parts list
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs based on current pricing:
>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS)
>R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming
>i5-9400F/9600K - Great gaming CPUs
>R5 2600/X - Great multithreaded use CPUs
>i7-9700K - Extreme solution for absolute max FPS
>R7 2700/X - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing

RAM:
>Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended
>CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal
>AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP

Graphics cards based on current pricing:
>Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty
1080p
>RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value
>GTX 1660 - standard
>RTX 2060 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor)
1440p
>RTX 2060 - standard
>RTX 2080 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor)
2160p (4K)
>RTX 2080 - standard
>RTX 2080Ti - better fit for 4K but expensive

General:
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's 144Hz with adaptive sync
>A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
>Bottleneck checkers are worthless

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youtu.be/n5cndooT3WQ?t=382
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I have a product idea

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What are the main disadvantages to small form factor mobos like microATX and miniITX?

Does anyone have something like this installed in their external 5.25" Bay?

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amd vs intel - which one is better?

is less than 70803120, spamming tard.

Actual non-duplicate thread is at Nothing on a mainstream platform. Z390 and X370 don't have enough PCIe lanes to saturate an ATX board's slots.
mATX cases are also typically cheaper.

Cry some more, idiot. You lost already.

Nobody cares about your Vega card shilling.

>Recommending Intel as a great CPU option when it costs way more

Anons stop selling fucking 6c/6t processors to anyone, they have 0 longevity since games are programs want more threads these days.

No one cares about your 6Gb card in 2019 for 1440p and 6 threads for the same price and worse gaming performance as 6c/12t out of blind fanboyism spamming

The most hilarious part about him shilling 6c/6t CPUs is that while the averages are THE SAME, he keeps spamming to bury posts hidin the fact that the frametimes are much worse.
He knows it's worse but he does this to troll.

Ask in the non-duplicate thread.

Yes, since my case came with just 3-in-3 adapters I shoved some of those into the some of the 5.25" bays instead.
I currently have
BD reader/writer
7 port USB 3.0 hub
USB 3.0 + multicard reader + fan controller
1 3.5 + 2 2.5 in 5.25
1 3.5 + 2 2.5 in 5.25
1 3.5 + 2 2.5 in 5.25
Then the last 6 are just standard 3 3.5 in 3 5.25 since I can't be bothered to spend the money on 5 in 3's

the problem with mini ITX is the lack of IO. You don't just lose PCIe lanes, you lose RAM slots, SATA ports, USB headers, fan headers, m.2 slots, etc. When a manufacturer does manage to cram 4 SATA ports and/or 3 m.2 slots onto a Mini ITX board, they're often in asinine places that are really annoying to get to.
If you get a Mini ITX board, double check how many fan headers it has. Even the good boards typically only have 2 (excluding CPU fan header).
Micro ATX is kind of a goldilocks size for most users. It has enough space for a GPU (and enough guaranteed space for the GPU to breathe), maybe an extra expansion card, and enough room left over for conveniently-placed m.2 and SATA ports.

Like you can be an Intel shill all you want, their high ends are great for games, but their middle range are such shit that I would feel awful recommending them over a 2600x, and the fact that brand recognition means more to OP over performance tells me he is a giant nigger

>hello here your options today sir
>you have intel shill thread
>or amd shill thread
>please to be enjoy sir

Tfw you can get 8 sata ports on a mini itx board but it's a damn asrock workstation board that costs an arm and a leg compared to its other abilities.
Honestly I just converted one of my m.2 ports to pcie x4 and shoved a sata adapter card in there.

the sad part is that you can't even get that many SATA ports on most micro ATX boards. Now that m.2 is a thing and DVD drives are dying out, people don't need them as much I guess.

Would an R9 380 and i5-4460 be enough to play Sekiro on max at 60fps? or at least medium settings?

What's the overall verdict on Lian Li cases?
I'm thinking of getting an Alpha 330 or Lancool 1.

Nobody's going to your thread, idiot. You can shill your shitty AMD cards in the AMD threads, shill.

I've currently got a 3570k and a 1070 Ti running a 144hz monitor.
Would this be a solid upgrade (mostly interested in single core performance)? I don't really know how to pick out a good motherboard, save for looking to see if it has all the slots I need.

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Can't you just get a PCIe HBA card for more SATA ports? Wouldn't chinkshit work for this?

>putting chinkshit internals inside your pc
>ever

Because you have no life and will keep spam bumping this one up with non-answers and garbage "advise"?

Ask in actual thread.

thanks

Will this PCIe Card work on GNU/Linux distros?

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>70803120
Posting the build I completed today and specs:

>Ryzen 3 2200g
>8GB DDR4 2133
>500 GB SSD
>Asrock B450 Pro4 M
>Corsair CX450 80+ Bronze
>Versa H17 case

Came in under $300 with all the sales and rebates. Haven't overclocked the APU yet but so far it's been able to handle 720p video encoding with no problems and I've been playing Bioshock remastered on it at about 85 FPS

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Should I get an RTX 2060 or Vega 56? Not trying to save money, trying to get the best performance at their price point.

2060 easily. Nvidia is historically far more reliable, particularly in the software department.

Does dust tend to be a problem with cases like pic related?

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stop role playing.

Ask in actual thread. OP here made a duplicate when there was already a new thread up.

And that's a better question for the Linux/GNU general.

gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2060-6GB-vs-AMD-RX-Vega-56/4034vs3938

You can, and I noted that I did in my current build. It makes me wish I went for a motherboard with more m.2 ports though, since I'd love to have a 3.0 hub hanging off one as well.

If I wanted to build a cheap Ryzen PC, am I really stuck with B450 and X470 Motherboards? Why can't they ship the cheaper ones with updated Bios?

I'm not going to your AMD shilling thread.

Pretty comfy build

Stop role playing.

Ask in the actual thread. This one was made as a duplicate.

Thanks man. I scrimped and saved and hunted deals for months to build it. I had a spare drive and RAM, spent $195 on the other stuff (case, processor, motherboard, power supply, etc).

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Is every single ATX Case capable of installing a micro-ATX case?

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REMEMBER how all those fags tell you that 4.2GHZ on 2600 is easy, heck you can even get it on a stock cooler

youtu.be/n5cndooT3WQ?t=382
>we couldn't maintain 4.2GHZ even at 1.4125V and going beyond this would require chilled liquid
Remember some people can't even get 4.0GHZ to boot no matter the cooling or voltage on the 2600.
Remember not to buy into the lottery hype, and plan for actually getting stock performance, guaranteed performance, not golden sample lottery ticket performance
Otherwise you are no better than a gambler saying
>no no no this time I will win, I am feeling it!

Gamers Nexus proved that that shit doesn't matter and even though that's way too much it doesn't affect performance literally at all

Does anyone own one of these monitors that can give me some feedback? Also, is HDR still a meme with PC monitors? I know on TVs it looks amazing but I've heard mixed things about HDR for PC monitors.

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Looking to buy a new monitor. Not sure if I should go with 144hz since I only got a 1070 and I usually only play new titles. Pretty much impossible to reach over 100 fps in. I'm looking for 27-30" 1440p IPS, so far I've looked at Dell U2719D and everything about it looks great. The new Innolux monitors were a disappointment from what I can read?

>tfw never buying vega or vii

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They honestly lost the sillicon lottery and also that's a 2700x not a 2600.

That's a "50 year anniversary GOLD EDITION "
And you can see it's binned like shit.
You can imagine how the 2600s are binned as they are literally the bottom of the barrel.
Yet you have people here shilling that 4.2GHZ is easy on those chips, even when there is cases of 4GHZ being the hard limit or 3.9GHZ.

Amd never claimed binned anniversary 2700s. It's a different ihs and that's it.

Who gives a shit? The extra few hundred megahertz isn't that big of a deal. Having a six or eight core chip that can even hot 3.5 is a pretty big deal. I got a 2700 that can hit 3.8 at 1.2v on the stock cooler

Why are AMD GPUs always so power inefficient?

You cannot debate this.

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Why do you have such a big chip on your shoulder?

AMD never claim anything directly.
It's the fans,drones,shills that try to fanatically shill their products to the poor "brainwashed masses". In threads like this you have plenty of people claiming all kinds of shit about dubious easy overclocks 4.2GHZ all core easy at 1.2V and stock cooler.

cringe op

I can only imagine how many veins your popping over the mere thought your shitty Vegas aren't getting shilled.

AMD unironically made up ground and beats them in multithreaded performance. Intel still wins in single-core performance, which is what really matters for most games. Gap still closing though.

AMD doing way better in the CPU war than they are in the GPU war.

I feel like AMD missed an opportunity with their 50th anniversary 2700x.

>no floppy drive

>Gaymen
Intel
>Gaymen on a budget
AMD
>Anything else
AMD

Yes, though there are some cases that can only hold mATX and not ATX.

Does anybody have AOC 24G1 or AOC 27G1 monitor?

The gold edition is just the regular CPU but with a little lisa su on the heatspreader. It's priced the same too.

Should I replace the thermal place on this used Vega56 I got? Is it hard to do? Can I break something?

Air cooled with PBO

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Who needs USB-C

AMD all the way up until the very top where it's definitive intel.

unless the temps are high I wouldnt do it

Honestly no idea for a motherboard

I haven't even looked at those yet. What would be "high"?

is 1660 a good upgrade/ sidegrade to 1050ti?

Ask in the actual thread. Reminder to report duplicate threads.

Fuck usb-c. I'm too poor to afford it anyway.

It's pretty good if you are on 1080p.

Buy Intel.

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Ask in the actual thread

Imagine.

It actually says 4.3 Ghz. Dunno if that's boost tho

Why do so many people dislike Haswell core?

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Thoughts on my small 2060 build?

us.pcpartpicker.com/b/xkZRsY

youtube.com/watch?v=I7SNmWDFxqA

My external hard drive supports it, so.....

AMD makes your life much easier, you get great specs for a low value, and unlike nvidia and intel, their drivers are officially open source making installing drivers for other operating systems much easier

On pcpartpicker, is there a way to create a group of the same part? Like if I wanted to add about 6-7 GPUs together so I can always compare their price at any time with one click?

It's a pain searching and filtering every time I want to check.

>amd
>making installing drivers for other operating systems much easier

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Actually I was doing something else, and pcbg was clearly idle, but that didn't stop you from bumping and samefagging in your shill thread like crazy. Imagine your whole life being a general on Jow Forums, lmao.

Sorry idiot, I'm never buying a Vega, ever. You're also never going to make new threads in peace while you shill shitty video cards.

How can other motherboards even compete?

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Aren't M.2 Shields meant to be the biggest meme ever? Don't they make the drives hotter?

What the fuck are those buttons for?

>XTREME
>GODLIKE
>ENTHUSIAST
>TURBO
>CAUTION
>UNLIMITED
>GAMING
10/10

Obvious bait
Based. I already owned a hd7970 back in 2012. AMD is not going to double dip and sell me the same card aka Vega.

Excuse me sir, you do realize delidding is not an ethical practice!

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Are VA Monitors generally worse than IPS for gaming and response time?

Also, when will micro LED monitors take off?

Confirmed by three sources now.

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Still delusional

>copy-pasted by three """sources""" now

Are hotswap bays worth it?

Keep denying Intelfags.

Micro led is waaaaay too expensive

You've been meming for months now though. t. Ryzen owner

The only intel product i own is a NIC.
Stay delusional.