OH NO NO NO NO

OH NO NO NO NO
what a pathetic faggot

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>Free speech
>B-But please follow our policy

t. pedo kike

>claim to be pro free speech
>isn't actually pro free speech

why do people do this?

The real question is, why are you surprised?

>The chad degenerate yid
>The virgin puritan manchild

What's a vote of no confidence here?

based. jew being put into a gas chamber where he belongs.

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conservatives aren't actually for free speech, they were trying to censor video games 20 years ago. they only pretend like they stand for it now that they're on the defensive.

not even jewish, it's the owner of kiwi farms ban evading

The newest generation of left- and right-wing idealogues are very smart people indeed. They see new markets on every turn, and they quickly seize the opportunity to make a quick buck. For these vultures, the "culture war" must have been like a gold rush to them, and if I'm being honest I feel quite jealous for not taking part.
Politicians and idealogues are not, and will never be, your fucking friend. These people do not care about free speech or social justice or fucking whatever, they care about your eyeballs and your wallet. Not sure why I bother mentioning this at all but I guess screaming into the void is better than nothing.

did you actually think gab is a bastion of free speech or something? it's just a right wing circlejerk

>The newest generation of left- and right-wing idealogues are very smart people indeed. They see new markets on every turn, and they quickly seize the opportunity to make a quick buck. For these vultures, the "culture war" must have been like a gold rush to them, and if I'm being honest I feel quite jealous for not taking part.
The problem is, if you get involved then you become a target. not getting involved is better if you don't want to end up like Torba.

ideologue.

Many of them are, though. Constitutionalists are for free speech.
The problem is that the previous religious crazies on the authoritarian right were abusing the system, and similar cultist crazies on the authoritarian left are doing it now. The pendulum had just swung from one side of authoritarianism to another.

I think it could have been if anyone else made it and anyone else started Gab as a platform.
Mastodon is a far better free speech platform and it's mostly used by japs.
Even Livejournal is a better free speech platform now than Facebook or Twitter.

the lefty pedos found a loophole and called it "consent".
you are still whinning about it under free speech.
what's next? you can't shitpost about horsefucking? dogfucking?

I am not even surprised though, Jow Forums is full of crypto-pedos.

>jew gets triggered by someone censoring pedophilia
How surprising. Anyone against this is a degenerate kike that deserves nothing but the rope

The fuck are you talking about and what does this have to do with the internet turning into a totalitarian shithole?

Based Florida man
Reminder that Gab removed NZ muslim shoah videos while Kiwi Farms told publicly the NZ police to fuck off
hownew.ru

>loli
>free speech

Kill yourself.

>Livejournal
yeah good luck with your pedo shit there, it's literally illlegal in russia

Pedos are subhumans and should be executed on site.

>Free speech is pedoshit
Kill yourself tranny.

>censorship is ok if it's something I don't like

Being a target of what exactly? I need a better explanation. Are you referring to being the target of mean words written by eggheads and corporate journos? I am more or less a free speech absolutist so I couldn't care less about that.

Explain.

Not an argument.

>pornography
>speech
We won't need to censor porn when we execute you pedos.

>loli is cancer and demonic
>demonic
lol

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Journos that make and break internet culture and ruin everything for everyone in their zeal. How do you think the gamergate debacle started? How do you think Michael Jackson music got banned around the world?

>MUH NAZI BOTNET

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i was just correcting your spelling lol

>Being a target of what exactly?
Have you seen how Torbin has been treated?
He can't use Paypal
He can't use Facebook
He has been on and off banned from twitter
His addons and extensions are removed from every major browser shop
His site is blacklisted under many safesearch pages

His life is ruined. Even if gab went under tomorrow, his name is going to be renowed as alt-right neo nazi etc etc etc He went against the Silicon Valley power structure and Silicon Valley blacklisted them.

Soon, after Mastercard starts blacklisting people from using their service for political reasons, he may not be able to use digital money at all

Silicon valley has come out to proclaim loudly that it owns society. It owns society and you're going to think exactly what they think or they will ruin your life.

What's worse is that they are so big and work together so closely that the only way to dethrone them at this point is government intervention. However this administration is so incompetent and stupid that, despite being the second president to serve during the Social Media age, gladly sits back and watches as all of its supporters and advocates are blacklisted and all of his political opponents are boosted. This literally will not be fixed this administration and next administration will be elected from this modern day trust and thus won't do anything about it either.

>I am more or less a free speech absolutist so I couldn't care less about that.
I am too, which is the frustrating part about this: No one who is can possibly get any power and will be actively demonized by the mass media as they are now working hand-in-hand with social media.

Like this faggot, say the word 'pedo' and a tiny bell goes off in his head. He suddenly forgets that this is the largest political force on Earth today and suddenly just starts spouting the buzzwords pre-programmed into him like a parrot.

These are the dumb fuckers who are causing this, and no one will do anything.

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based sillicon valley

Says man before he was blacklisted for Silicon Valley for posting on Jow Forums

>freeing me from Jow Forums
BASED AND REDPILLED SILLICON VALLEY

Pedos will one day you will face God and will burn in Hell for all of eternity. You might escape this earth, but you won't escape forever.

Tonight I will pray to kill pedos in my sleep.

Not only pornography, Gab hates everything related to lolis.

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There's only one solution for you people.

Gab shills deflecting and derailing from the OP which had nothing to do with loli

Did you do it on purpose with those digits?

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Gab is truly appalling. After the first shooting when they got kicked off Microsoft Azure, they switched to another 3rd party cloud provider and immediately got kicked off. Torba then went shopping for US providers and in the middle of negotiations with my company fucked off without any warning and went to host with yet another cloud provider in either Belgium, where it remains today.

He apparently is either unaware or doesn't care that Belgium has laws against Holocaust Denial and is a member of the 5 eyes. If Gab is continued to stay there, it is because it benefits the EU. Most likely, the US is now siphoning off data from Belgium that they couldn't constitutionally obtain if Gab were hosted in the US.

Torba has now forked Brave and is going toe-to-toe with Brendan Eich, the co-founder of Mozilla and the developer behind JavaScript.

Oh, and after moving Gab to the EU, he posted some pathetic groveling message about how to "find free speech in the US, he had to leave the US" apparently unawares the US remains the best country to host, although our tech companies are pussies.

With $1m he should have had IP space with ARIN. He should have had a contract with a datacenter in a based state like Wyoming or Nevada. He should have had his own hardware. He should have had all this set up years ago before problems arose. He still doesn't have any of this today. He is INCOMPETENT.

Is Gab supposed to be wrong here?

What a colossal retard kek

Based and woke

pedos get out

Internet culture means nothing to me, just like any other culture.
>How do you think the gamergate debacle started?
A reaction to corrupt journalists who counter-reacted by shielding themselves with left-wing rhetoric. The shitshow it devolved into was a result of the exact kind of "entrepreneurship" I talked about.

Ah, I see. Thanks.

>Have you seen how Torbin has been treated?
No, I haven't, hence why I asked for the explanation. Thanks for doing so.
>His life is ruined.
The internet is not someone's life.
>Even if gab went under tomorrow, his name is going to be renowed as alt-right neo nazi etc etc etc He went against the Silicon Valley power structure and Silicon Valley blacklisted them.
What you are describing can just as easily be marketed positively as it can be viewed negatively. If Alex Jones isn't a prime example of that then I don't know what is. Note that I still think both are being unfairly treated, it's just that being a victim is not necessarily a purely negative circumstance if you have an audience.
>Soon, after Mastercard starts blacklisting people from using their service for political reasons
Source?
>What's worse is that they are so big and work together so closely that the only way to dethrone them at this point is government intervention
I couldn't disagree more. In recent times, government intervention is used to increase the influence that massive corporations have over society. The only thing that will dethrone Silicon Valley is an economic collapse, and that tends to occur when the government doesn't intervene enough.
>However this administration is so incompetent and stupid
The incompetence and stupidity you perceive is just a natural result of the American electoral system: the interests of the wealthy and powerful are over-represented. Don't hate the players, hate the game.

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>Gab is truly appalling
Okay, let's hear why.

>After the first shooting when they got kicked off Microsoft Azure, they switched to another 3rd party cloud provider and immediately got kicked off. Torba then went shopping for US providers and in the middle of negotiations with my company fucked off without any warning and went to host with yet another cloud provider in either Belgium, where it remains today.
What's the problem with this? They shouldn't have been taken off of Azure in the first place. It's as ridiculous as blacklisting Twitter because the shooter had a twitter account which he ALSO posted the SAME content that he was posting on his gab. The only thing he didn't post was the 'I'm going in' post. That's it.

It's fucking retarded as a society that we somehow still have this magical thinking where, because someone bad used a service, that service must be tainted. It's the 'Hitler drank water' argument but somehow dumb people fall for it.

>If Gab is continued to stay there, it is because it benefits the EU.
It's because the EU isn't as much of a fucking Oligarchy owned by Silicon Valley as the EU. in fact the EU has specific privacy protections that benefit him that we don't have. It's retarded that the EU of all places protect its users way better than our shithole government.
Isn't that something to be praised?

>With $1m he should have had IP space with ARIN. He should have had a contract with a datacenter in a based state like Wyoming or Nevada. He should have had his own hardware. He should have had all this set up years ago before problems arose. He still doesn't have any of this today. He is INCOMPETENT.
Do you not see why, though? He's proving that, in order to be free speech, you have to build a parallel internet because current internet is totalitarian.
Every time one of these services blacklist him, he gets more popular. They could have gotten rid of him by ignoring him, but they continue to play his game and it benefits him.

create a gab/dissenter loli, that will make him have to delete himself

always beat the enemy with their own weapons

I bet it's the programmer socks guy, I wonder how many times a day he dilates?

Free speech as a concept was created for political speech. It means that no political view should be silenced, it doesn't say that you should be able to discuss your fascination with fucking children.

I can confirm that there are Mastodon bots spamming 2D lolis you can follow.

Hi Torba. Kill yourself.

Stop bullying Nagato.

Nice argument lad, how much do you have your own faggot traits?

Trump is working on it.

t. RNC donor who knows

Hi Andrew
You're a joke

>The internet is not someone's life.
His business is the internet, his reputation has been ruined on the internet, there are now more smears written about him than there are actual serial killers. Why? Because he hosted a free speech platform.
Maybe he isn't free speech, maybe he's a grifter looking for attention, still no way to treat someone because they wanted to make an alternate platform to Twitbook.

>What you are describing can just as easily be marketed positively as it can be viewed negatively.
There is no sane person who views this positively. The only people who think that it's OK for massive corporations to work together to deperson and destroy people are dullards who do not understand the consequences this has. People who literally think Books are alt-right would think this is a good thing, no other person.

>Source?
Here you go: worldtribune.com/report-visa-mastercard-blocked-donations-to-conservative-think-tank-on-advice-from-splc/

> In recent times, government intervention is used to increase the influence that massive corporations have over society. The only thing that will dethrone Silicon Valley is an economic collapse, and that tends to occur when the government doesn't intervene enough.
I disagree, because what we are seeing is the makings of what is known as a 'group boycott', a Trust tactic that was popularized in the 19th century.
ftc.gov/tips-advice/competition-guidance/guide-antitrust-laws/dealings-competitors/group-boycotts

Basically, Silicon valley, made up of dozens of companies, should be competing with one another,but aren't, instead they're collaborating over fucking over Torbin.
Hate the guy or not, this is NOT good for anybody, not anyone who wants to participate in this system, not anyone who wants to make a competitor to this system, Facebook, Twitter, Google with Youtube, all of these should be competitors and instead they work hand-in-hand to blacklist anyone who doesn't toe their line.

Not that user, but you're conveniently only reading the Azure part and ignoring that there were providers in the US willing to work with him, and that he jumped front the US were probably and free speech laws aren't good to the straight up dystopian state of Brussels were Holocaust denial it's illegal and WILL land you in jail and we're privacy laws are barely any better than those in the US (and objectively worse when you take into account they're a 5 eyes country)
>He's proving that, in order to be free speech, you have to build a parallel internet because current internet is totalitarian.
He literally didn't, he just switched to one of the worst states for free speech in Europe where he had zero problems setting camp
based

>from the US were privacy
>were privacy laws are
and free speech laws
fixed

That's the thing, I hate Torba. The guy is clearly a grifter sponging off the attention.

BUT: Silicon valley is enabling this attention by clearly using illegal tactics to attempt to remove his service and chase him from the country. Like it or not, this is illegal what they are doing to him.

I would love nothing more than Torba to become irrelevant an Gab to fail because we need a real competitor that isn't steeped in the horseshit politics of Frogs, Wojacks, and Trump. We need a real social media site to come along and save us.

But that literally cannot happen while the Silicon Valley Cartel is in effect. Every attempt is going to get smeared just like Torbin's attempt was, and it's going to get torn the fuck down as being a retreat for the Alt-right.

Hate the game, not the player.

>He literally didn't, he just switched to one of the worst states for free speech in Europe where he had zero problems setting camp
That's exactly it, though. He knows Brussels will come for him eventually, and when they do it's going to make him more popular.

This is his game, this is how he's setting this up. He's doing this on purpose because every time the tech cartels come from him, he's suddenly in the news and the media.
But he's not wrong to do that, I rather have this fucking grifter in the news every time some moral busybody comes along to squash him than have actual instances of the tech cartels stomping down on competition buried because it might help Torba. The answer all along was to ignore the fucker, but they can't do that because they have to have all of the market, they can't share with anyone. Even with a dumb pepeposter that Torbin is.

All of it has to be them because they have to tell the world unilaterally that they own the internet. This is about control .Youtube loses 70 billion in market cap? That's just the price of controlling the internet, which is profitable for everyone and keeps the competition out.

I want to believe you, but I don't even think the RNC is capable of understanding the core problem. If they were, the EFF would have been consulted years ago to solve this problem.
This problem didn't spring up overnight, and in fact was even a problem in the 00's.

Your arguments are shit though.

you mean Tipper Gore who is the reason parental advisory stickers exist on music albums? fuck off with the division bullshit.

it actually is

Great counter argument.
You may as well have called me a 'faggot' for all the good it has done.

I think the whole Gab thing really demonstrates that free market doesn't work. Not only can Silicon Valley companies collude with each other to shut anybody down, but they also have news media and government officials in their pockets.
But even if those barriers weren't in place, it still wouldn't be fair, because unlike other types of business, in social networks the users of that social media ARE the product. Which means that the social media with the most users has a massive advantage. Even Google couldn't make Google+ work, because Facebook already had all the users.

Your argument is that Torba making bad decisions helps Torba. I disagree.

>That's exactly it, though. He knows Brussels will come for him eventually, and when they do it's going to make him more popular.
They won't because he bans anyone who criticizes kikes, censors the nigger word and attacks anyone who posts loli, there's no reason for Belgium to go after him

Also, you just moved the goalpost, from "he proved you need to build a parallel internet" to "he will become popular once draconian Belgium goes after him and proves it" (which doesn't prove it at all since Belgian free speech laws are weak as fuck)
What will be next? That he's the second coming of Christ solely because he isn't Google?
Mastodon exists and that's decentralized and impossible to censure, people like Torbin only slide actual solutions for some fame

Ooh, how about Hillary Clinton who was one of the first people to try and ban doom?

Republicans basically didn't exist on the Internet before Ron Paul and Trump, except as the targets of other people's memes and shitposting. Now the stakes are the Presidency and both houses of Congress, so people are paying attention now. The angle being taken is removing the (((shapeshifting))) that these (((people))) do between platform and publisher to avoid responsibility under the Communications Decency Act, so they will be forced to decide. If they're a platform, they can't ban for political content, even thirty page love letters to Hitler in rainbow Comic Sans. If they're a publisher, they're liable for the content posted on their sites. This means no DMCA safe harbor provisions, and they're liable for libelous content, ISIS videos, cartel gore, etc. The end state is that anyone who starts banning for political content will lose their platform shield and get sued out of existence.

This is all about clarifying existing law, so Congress isn't required either - a major advantage given that the Democrats hold the House right now.

I can feel your impotent rage through the screen.

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>I disagree
Want to explain then how every single instance that Silicon Valley has used to clamp down on Torba hasn't benefited Torba?
What 'bad decisions', too? The part where he went against Silicon Valley? The part where he intentionally waited to get kicked off of their platform so he could attention whore for the users? Because those seem to have benefited him greatly when they could have just ignored him.

You basically just told me "Hi Torba, your arguments are shit, I disagree." Wow. Great explanation on your logic, there.

>Also, you just moved the goalpost, from "he proved you need to build a parallel internet" to "he will become popular once draconian Belgium goes after him and proves it" (which doesn't prove it at all since Belgian free speech laws are weak as fuck)
Those are two in the same. He is proving that you need to build a parallel internet because he is proving, every step of the way, that someone is going to come after him no matter where he goes. If you think Belgium won't go after him, guess again. This is him proving that you cannot escape this tech censorship and that you have to build a parallel society in order to function with the 'wrong' viewpoints.
No goalposts moved, this is exactly what I've been saying the whole time.

>Mastodon exists and that's decentralized and impossible to censure, people like Torbin only slide actual solutions for some fame
That's exactly it, though. Mastodon isn't as well known as Gab because it hasn't had the rows and censorship debacles that Gab has had.
Like it or not, Silicon valley is doing this to itself.

They could have stopped at any time and let him wallow away in obscurity. He would be less popular than Mastodon if they did that, but they are enabling him because they are impulsive and cannot allow even one competitor to have an opinion they dislike. They have to have all of it, own all of it.

There's no way you're not Torba or someone who works with him. There's no one else on Earth who sees ditching the entire continental United States and the plethora of politically disinterested, high-quality datacenters in the country - outside of California - as a net benefit except the idiots running Gab.

Hey Josh

>SHUT UP YOU'RE TORBA
Your arguments are shit. At least that's what I would say if you had any argument at all besides "FUCK YOU TORBA"
How do you not get that he's doing this for the popularity bump of the Streisand Effect?

There's nothing wrong with Lolicon.

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>Hey goyim here's a free speech website
>No not that!!!
What a pathetic joke.

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>How do you not get that he's doing this for the popularity bump of the Streisand Effect?
He's doing a great job winning hearts and minds.

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He is, because these fucking massive tech cartels can't stop themselves from ignoring him. They have to write articles on him, they have to demonize his website, and every time they do Gab grows bigger and bigger.
Whether he's actually a human scumbag is no question. At least I don't think it's not a question, but does that make any of it right or even legal? Fuck no.

I rather have Gab and Dissenter be available on the internet and Torbin getting credit he doesn't deserve to massive corporate groupthink determining what is or isn't acceptable speech for the internet.

lol.

>Mastodon isn't as well known as Gab
How big is Gab anyway? I can't find information about its number of users.

>and every time they do Gab grows bigger and bigger.
>two users join
>66% GROWTH!!!!!!

It's not funny though. This is fucking sad.
This is the state of the fucking internet where massive companies simply decide to squash individuals all in unison so regularly and predictably that people make a career out of it.

This.

This fox girl is 800 year old.
So It's legal

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there shouldn't be one person managing any company's social media

>images are speech

>How big is Gab anyway? I can't find information about its number of users.
If you believe Torbin (I don't) he has over a million users.
That number is closer to 500,000-800,000 if you believe their webhost.

Small. They were looking at something like a 100Mbps line and only a few TB of space.

This thread got pretty cringe desu senpai. Let's all just post lolis instead of arguing about nothing like an sjw. Waifus are tech, not demonic

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It's hard to count Mastodon since it's a federated protocol rather than a siloed service, but at least 100k total.

Images are strings of 1s and 0s

>If you think Belgium won't go after him, guess again
Belgium it's the most retarded place for this, going to some country and breaking the law intentionally will always get you in jail
People that have been prosecuted like weev have proved that they won't come for you all the time, he hasn't had a single problem in Latvia
>That's exactly it, though. Mastodon isn't as well known as Gab because it hasn't had the rows and censorship debacles that Gab has had.
Why not keep building on Mastodon instead of launching your own faggot platform? What he did only hurts platform that are immune to censorship and promotes platforms that aren't