Global chip sales have dropped by 15.5% sequentially in the first quarter...

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>global chip sales have dropped by 15.5% sequentially in the first quarter, accounting for the largest decline in the past 35 years.

What does this mean for Jow Forums and their gaming pcs? 64 core gaming cpus for 2 dollars?

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Does this coincide with the bursting of the crypto bubble?

They're about a year apart

we are in a recession and the fed is hidding it out

do you seriously believe boeing shares wouldnt have collapsed a month ago in a true free market?

Didn't iPhone sales also decrease by quite a bit? Although I don't think it tanked by 25% but perhaps the mobile market is tanking in general, with the iPhone being the one to stand out the most. And its hype could help sell other devices, since people who can't buy one could buy cheaper phones. Also, imo there hasn't been a significant change to mobile OSes since Android 6 IIRC, where you could set individual permissions per app (which isn't that great, since some of them refuse to do their thing without having the permission rather than the OS masking it somehow, and I think it's probably irrelevant for most users).

There's also been the crypto bubble popping, as well as no new version of Windows (which, in the past, would require more resources and force people to upgrade). Maybe with the new consoles coming out next year, there will be increased demand for new machines as PC games get require a higher baseline to run.

Beyond that, the only possible explanation I see is a downward trend in the economy in general, which could be devastating, since it feels like 2008 crisis isn't even over at this point.

Read about Intel's CPU shortage.

Anyway, it doesn't correlate with the mobile slowdown from last year (~10%).

This desu. Come to Jow Forums for the blackpill

>gaming pcs
video games are for children and brainwashing lost young men to join the marines

>we are in a recession
we've been in a recession since 1973.
the dollar is literally only stronk because uncle sam will come bomb your ass if you say it's not.

The dollar being weak would be a blessing for the US.

>imports from china and elsewere now expensive af
>countries can now import american goods cheaply

So we could bash china, japan, and germany

most population can't afford $700 flagships every 2 years

they had to get the shitty $200 mini or lite versions with shitty components that broke down not even a year after user

Then Xiaomi came and put out mid range phones with flagship features, and then so did Huawei, and eventually Samsung

So now low-mid and mid range phones don't break down after 1 year, and who would've guessed, people who buy budget phones don't have money to buy new budget phones every year

This.
I've been using my OnePlus One for 5 fucking years.

used market is now flooding with sandy, ivy, and even haslel. People even dump that stuff on the regular now. If you're cash strapped buying a cheap old PC is good enough. Your average person doesn't play games on ultra at 120 fps, or need 16 cores to post on twitter, so used market is enough

RTX ON

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>people bought more chips than ever when meltdown and spectre went public
WTF

>amd makes their best q of their lifes
>outsold intel 2 to 1
>somehow its declining because intel doesnt sell

who the fuck wrote this ? intel pr team?

We are now too smart for silicon.

Computers are obsolete

incel 10nm was originally supposed to come out in 2015/2016

No significant upgrade in performance from 4 years ago for an incentive to upgrade.

Its just phone sales dropping because everyone already has a smartphone that looks identical to every other smartphone and unless it breaks theres no need for a new one.

For pc theres "mid range" cards costing twice as much they did 6 years ago so thats not going to grow.

PEOPLE ARE SICK OF GETTING THE HALF SHIT

FULL-CONDUCTORS OR FUCKOFF

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It's because of people finally stopping to buy a new phone every year

We're in the early stages of economic downturn. Will we head for a true collapse, or just hard times?

Depends on the political leadership

5 year old PCs are still fine to play games on
2-4 year old phones still work like they did when they were new
oh and intel CPUs are overpriced as fuck and most normalfags buy those

ha!

People are holding out to buy superior Russian hardware.
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>gsnanotech.com/products/ssd/

>comprised of the latest generation 3D NAND crystal memory from the world's leading manufacturers

kinda lame

it means it's finally happening

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I bought 2 cpus literally yesterday

10nm cancelled
7nm cancelled
5nm cancelled
Non silicon semiconductors cancelled
14nm was peak electronics

They will soon start with the production of up to 2 TB PCI-E SSDs
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With more competition you should expect to see lower SSD prices everywhere.

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But they're not making their own chips right? So the bottleneck is still at the nand producers?

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>Since 2016, GS Group has been implementing the first in Russia project for the development and mass production of SSD (solid-state drive, solid-state drives) - non-mechanical storage devices based on memory chips with a control controller. The first serial sample of a 256 GB drive with SATA 3.0 interface was released in 2017. In February 2018, the GS Group holding launched a mass production of its own developed SSD. Today, the manufacturer offers a whole line of enterprise-class solid-state drives up to 2 TB in several form factors. The SSD is based on memory modules manufactured by GS Nanotech, which include the latest generation of 3D TLC NAND memory crystals from leading global manufacturers. The entire production cycle - the development and design of SSDs, the packaging of NAND-memory modules, the installation of components on the board, the final assembly and packaging of products - is implemented in the Technopolis GS innovative cluster, which allows production of more than 1 million devices per year.

From what I understand. Designed and produced from scratch. Refined resources go in, finished SSDs comes out with no 3th party involvement.

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>which include the latest generation of 3D TLC NAND memory crystals from leading global manufacturers
Yeah right, Sergei.

No, but it does correspond with the glut of used hardware on the market after the crypto bubble.

What? 3D NAND is not difficult. Aren't you happy with more competition in the SSD market?

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There was an anomalous growth, now the sales got corrected to follow the 12 years trend.

Literally nothing. Learn some economy.

Intel has production capacity issues and zen2 is around the corner. That's probably part of it. A lot of talk about 5G and not many phones, so maybe people are holding off there a bit too.

They used to, dunno about now. They had used 65nm equipment from amd. Not it's TSMC, most likely.

I can't imagine core ping times are good on that processor. It's probably worse than a consumer Zen.

it means we need a thermonuclear world war three to get rid of all the niggers and jews and bring human population back to 500 million. preferably central europe and Japan only. the rest can die in a fire.

>3D NAND is not difficult.
So why aren't they making them in house?
>Aren't you happy with more competition in the SSD market?
That's no competition, that's facade for Putin to keep him uninformed Russia is 90% dependent on China and USA when it comes to electronics.

Without any real improvement lately a lot of consumer electronics are hitting the dreaded stage of "Good enough" for most people.

Things don't go obsolete and need replacing if nobody is innovating.

Mikron (mikron.ru/en/ ) has a 65nm lithography process and specializes mostly in RFID. Then you also have Crocus Nano Electronics (crocusnano.com/en/) capable of doing 55nm.

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>So why aren't they making them in house?
But they are making them in house.

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I can't find any information on any of their fabs or nand so I'm assuming they just package chips bought from other companies.

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This. Biz might be a bunch of retards but even a broken clock is right twice a day. Tech stocks are only the beginning, prepare for a recession worse than the great depression, the dot com bubble and 2008 combined.

>prepare for a recession worse than the great depression, the dot com bubble and 2008 combined.
I doubt it as long as the gubmint can keep the banks open, and even if inflation becomes a problem at least unemployment would kept low unless there's stagflation.

Here my dude.
gsnanotech.com/services/

GS group is a large Russian investment firm (created right after the fall of the soviet union) that invests in Russian technology. GS Nanotech is a part of it and is the one that develops and produces the SSD drives.

>I doubt it as long as the gubmint can keep the banks open,
And that's exactly the problem. Investors, financial advisers, researchers, think tanks of all schools of thought all over the world have for years said when the next recession hits we won't have the money or means to counteract it like we did in 2008 because of the mind boggling decision we have made since then.
On top of that global economies are so intertwined and there are so many bubbles or dumpster fires going on, depending on how you look at it, that if one major region falls the others will follow right behind it. Housing price bubbles all over the place some of them are currently either deflating or popping too soon to tell, China is one giant bubble right now made up of a lot of smaller ones, Eurozone is still fucked and Italy might just fuck our shit up really bad, England decimated itself and continues to do everything they can to fuck up their economy, yield curve in the US and Germany recently inverted, sales of all types of things declining rapidly, some stocks already tanking hard, BTOs which are literally renamed CDOs have slowly been rising in failure rate and have been getting downgraded for months, etc etc.
We are either at the start of a major recession or already in one. And even if you don't agree with me because I can see why people call me blackpilled, there are enough major successful investors and academics saying we are about to see the worst crash in their life span.

They do, ignore the shill.
Even their shill site has a list of chip makers they're purchasing from. And one day they probably have a complete cycle in-house. Or most likely, they'll suck on government grands, do fuck-all and then go to jail.

Russia is currently designing advanced lithography processes.

en.rusnano.com/portfolio/companies/mapperlithography

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maybe because consolidation aka SoCs
curious about total transistor sales

Russias CPU/Lithography program only exists to keep American backdoors out of important government systems. High powered civilian stuff runs on standard Western stuff.

They really don't want to end up like the rest of Europe.

Don't we already have gallium nitride as a semiconductor?

>Russias CPU/Lithography program only exists to keep American backdoors out of important government systems.
That is a valid concern, but, not commercializing it would be a wast. All Elbrus CPUs are currently produces for factories, government agencies, universities and companies. Eventually it will trickle down to the consumers. Creating your own CPU and Lithography is only viable if you have a large volume. Doing it without large volume production doen't make sense.

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