Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >i5-9400F/9600K - Great gaming CPUs >R5 2600/X - Great multithreaded use CPUs >i7-9700K - Extreme solution for absolute max FPS >R7 2700/X - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value >GTX 1660 - standard >RTX 2060 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 1440p >RTX 2060 - standard >RTX 2080 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 - standard >RTX 2080Ti - better fit for 4K but expensive
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's 144Hz with adaptive sync >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
I have a 1440p 144hz Dell monitor. It’s hooked up via display port to my RTX 2070 The display settings only go up to 1080p and 64hz Anyone know how I can enable the better resolution and refresh rate?
Justin King
which monitor
and try another DP cable if you can.
Christopher Morgan
From the last thread at the end;
So how big of an issue is speed on DDR3 ram? Deciding if it is worth it to get more in my old z87/haswell build, moving from 8gb to 16 as basically a final round of upgrades for it before I make a new build in a year or two. Only stuff that looks affordable/I can get easily is 12800, which is the same as I have in now, but just wanted to know if it was even worth it to upgrade to more at the same speed.
Ryan Carter
Check your display options in the nvidia control panel.
Carter Stewart
repostan looking for a £100~ GPU to go with my 2400g because GPU prices are finally """"""""ok"""""""" and I want to get a dedicated GPU (and a 2600x at the end of the year or a new ryzen cpu)
probably going to get a £120~ 580 8GB, this is the one to go for right? only want 1080/60 at max settings for new meme games like sekiro and what not
Ethan Fisher
I wouldn't bother wasting money on DDR3 desu.
Just start saving up for a platform upgrade when Zen2 hits.
Julian Flores
DDR3 is cheap now so might as well I'm on haslel too btw
Wyatt Sullivan
Do you change it in the Nvidia panel control? Window's one is stupid sometimes.
Adam Evans
580 from AMD or 1660 from Nvidia.
580 at $120 is certainly as good as it gets under $200 or so.
Daniel Rivera
Stupid question dudes: If I build a brand new computer with brand new parts save for the hard drive, which I will move over from my old computer, would everything just work as if it was my old computer or would there be some sort of driver issue i didn't expect that would fuck me over?
thought so everything would probably work fine, parts not working is more of a motherboard issue i.e new ryzen cpus not working on b350 boards unless you upgrade the bios
Josiah Stewart
What's the ideal GPU for 1440p@60Hz gaming?
Jackson Bell
Thanks lads. Have to install the nvidia driver then i think I’ll be good
Isaac Sanchez
Honestly just depends, moving from a Q6600 to a 5820k I was shocked that I could boot into my windows without installing any extra drivers, or fucking with anything.
I updated to the newest drivers for everything and it was fine.
I still ended up doing a complete reinstall a few months later though.
But i've also seen a FX-6300 to an 8600k and it would blue screen when trying to boot into the boot drive.
Xavier Howard
I think a certain AMD shill won't be happy about this...
Andrew Murphy
1660Ti or 2060. Or Vega 56 if a decent sale price.
Samuel Price
>I wouldn't bother wasting money on DDR3 desu.
Why I'm not going balls deep looking for higher clocked stuff. Also I'm not really worried about saving, just don't really want to do a new build till I really need it and seeing what else I can do to extend my current setup as it's still not feeling it's age.
Grayson Nguyen
If you can still find a 1070 for cheap, then that.
Cameron Martin
>9700k we don't like the 8700k anymore?
Evan Garcia
It's fine, but unless it's more than $50 cheaper, it's generally not worth it.
Real cores are better than fake cores.
Chase Watson
OP is trash
Xavier Russell
best mobo for someone who wants to overclock on Z390?
Landon Reed
Best as in the BEST OCing board that allows for 5.2Ghz+? Or "best" as in cheapest board with the best OC value?
Asrock deskmini A300 >around 250 eurobucks >no fancy ports but two 2.5" slots >200GE, but has AM4 so upgradable later >gotta buy wi-fi adapter and vesa mount separately, which is just a hassle
Workstation/cluster GPU meant for machine learning, AI, or similar tasks.
Would be pretty shit for gaming since Quadro drivers don't give a fuck about gaming optimizations.
Brandon Parker
What should I know before buying a first SSD? I vaguely recall a meme early in their life that they died out faster, I'm guessing that stopped because it's horse shit? What are the reliable companies to get SSDs from? I've noticed SanDisk has some big sales on their SSDs recently but I can't help but ask myself if it's because they're garbage no one buys.
Lincoln Thompson
Samsung and Intel are the top two.
Intel for reliability and consistent performance. Samsung for cheaper price but higher peak performance.
Others like sandisk, adata, mushkin, etc are generally cheaper consumer drives.
Depends what you need the SSD for what you should get, but any SSD is better than no SSD.
Colton Turner
just get a samsung 500GB ssd and put your OS on it it's not rocket science
Jace King
Got 2400/CL10 for $75 some time ago. It's pretty cool Do you realize that average DDR4 on Ryzen isn't much faster than 2400 DDR3 on Haswell?
Thoughts on this build? Wanting to play games at 1080p 60 fps
Ian Wright
because it completely ignores a bunch of things in exchange for intel shilling from this retard
Nathan Edwards
>Do you realize that average DDR4 on Ryzen isn't much faster than 2400 DDR3 on Haswell? Do you realize he needs a platform upgrade for reasons BESIDES memory bandwidth?
Neck yourself retard.
Mason Garcia
its fine might want to get 3200mhz ram instead though and a better version of the 580
Aaron Thomas
I unironically would swap my current PC for whatever that thing in the OP is. And my PC ain't no shitter (1080Ti, 32GB of RAM (yeah nigger that aint a boot drive), Ryzen 2700x, blah blah).
Isaiah Anderson
>ignores a bunch of things such as?
Also, the blatant AMD shilling is honestly far worse.
Owen Cook
Whats wrong with this version of the 580?
Isaac Davis
>And my PC ain't no shitter >Ryzen 2700x What did he mean by this?
Parker Bell
You fucked up by getting 4 x 8GB. Should have gotten 2x16 since the intel core CPUs use dual channel.
Robert Green
>Do you realize he needs a platform upgrade for reasons BESIDES memory bandwidth? Oh.. does he really tho?
continue to neck yourself, you're just proving my point that you're legit retarded.
Aaron Moore
Friday >Arriving Tuesday Tuesday >Arriving Tuesday Wednesday >Arriving Tuesday The following Tuesday >Arriving today What are the chances this will arrive after 5pm?
it's not a huge deal since most applications wont touch more than 16GB at a time anyway.
With dual channel memory controller, he can still utilize 16GB of that RAM for any singular application. 2x16GB would have allowed him to use all 32GB in a singular instance, but that would rarely need to happen, and most RAM hungry programs that actually DO need a shit ton of RAM, work decently well when spread across multiple DIMMs anyway.
Continue buying CPU upgrades every 2 years. I'm sure AMD needs your NEETbux more than you do. You'll definitely need that 9000 cores, man!
Carter Evans
He's just a salty AMD loyalist, upset that Vega isn't being shilled in the OP. It genuinely pains him knowing AMD graphics cards aren't being shilled at the top.
By the way, sir, would you please buy a Vega 64?
Wyatt Allen
LMAO intel shill go fucking shit on the street with your pal rajesh.
I'm running an Intel Core i5-8400 and an RTX 2080. Would it be worth upgrading to a Core i7-9700K? Feels like everything I run is maxed out at 4k 60fps, but I don't know.
>cherry picking the games intel does bad on to make it look worse instead of posting the 18 game average which shows they're basically identical performance.
wewlad
Blake Cook
either get your own SFF case and do something with a actual GPU or not. eGPUs are not worth it and NUCs are pretty limited
Charles Myers
It would help in certain games for sure.
Just depends what you play though if it would help your specific use-case.
better single core performance for MOST older games, unless you only play games from the last 18 months, odds are you play at least a few games that heavily favor intel CPUs.
Further, intel stability isn't a joke, intel systems generally just run smoother.
>t. 1600x owner that sold to my brother so I could buy a 9700k when it came out.
Connor Lopez
if you have a microcenter nearby, you can get a ryzen 1600 for $80 with $30 off any mobo. if you don't, i'd still go with the 1600 as it's much better value. definitely get some better ram as well. ideally something on the mobo's qvl so you don't have to fiddle with timings.
Christian Diaz
>continue to neck yourself, you're just proving my point that you're legit retarded. It's actually fun that I've been an AMD fan most of my life. Used 5 of their CPUs (K5, Duron, Athlon64, Phenom II and Ryzen 2400G) vs 2 Intel ones, but retarded brand-loyal shilling fuckwits from Jow Forums like you made me absolutely hate the brand. Probably the most retarded and salty fanclub I've ever seen.
Dylan Bailey
Weird, i've owned 3 AMD CPUs and 5 intel CPUs over the years, at various points.
But hey, call me an intel shill if you want retard.
Jordan Bell
DELTE THIS
Even funnier when you can go back to the 2nd or 3rd gen Core series intels and get similar results, AMD is just horrible for latency, and the more recent BIOS updates for security patches make it even worse, so much so that certain internet forums even recommend using older BIOS revisions to maintain the lowest latency possible (which is still well above intel)
well first of all, i5 is the easiest option to assemble and its about as easy to handle as any X cpu on amd, leaving only ram trainning to do manually
BUTT
the minimun FPS was pretty bad and almost always didnt matched 2600 H and B mobos on intel will not let you have memory above 2666, wich is why the test was literally done twice with intel. a z mobo is OC tier and so you should use the i5 K version anyway. if you are luckly intel XTU will allow you to use the unlocked bus speed and OC a tiny but but you cant count on it. you paid as much for the F variant that you did for the standard variant. the difference is F doesnt have the iGPU. supposely K versions will OC better because the iGPU power rails will be used as well, meaning at least one more phase when OCing but who knows.
so theres some weird stuff happening in these tests
Why does SSD speed get obliterated on Intel systems after security patches?
Aiden Roberts
>Watercooled ryzen vs stock intel >intel still wins yikes
Ryan Cook
Now check minimum fps lol
Hudson Flores
It doesn't really.
Does it impact somewhat? Sure, but outside of benchmarks you'd never notice a difference unless you're in a VERY niche use-case, which a home user would 99.99999% of the time, not be.
Considering Intels turbo abilities with a better cooler, the 9400f can probably handle it's all-core turbo for much longer, likely providing better minimum FPS since it wouldn't throttle itself from shitty stock cooler.
>moving my IO panel from the front to the side because I'm redoing the whole face >esata port I'll never use making it look awkward and gay >I'll cut that nigger off (I hope I don't fuck the panel) >cut the nigger off, panel is unfucked, everything still werks >install the panel on the side >one USB port doesn't werk FUCK
as a rule of thumb i7 and i9 cant be matched by amd
i5 can already, despite a occasional stutter, deliver constant 120+ FPS with the correct CPU
but this is all the unlocked version, and the i7 still has stutters because apparently 12 threads is not sufficient to prevent them. i9 doesnt stutter, can do 5ghz and has 16+ threads
Easton Peterson
wait I lied, it's 63ns on the ryzen with B-die ram.
Cameron Roberts
>trying to reason an obvious shill stop responding to him. If people don't realize that this benchmark heavily favors amd (water cooler + 3400 cl14 ram which only benefits ryzen) it's their own fault to fall into the ryzen meme.
Robert Miller
Yeah he forgot to install a chiller for the Intel CPU.
Owen Price
This is why you buy 9th gen intel with the hardware fix instead of 8th gen.
I have a 950 pro sitting here as my boot drive, I have a 9700k with the hardware fixes. Oh look, it's far beyond whatever shit results are shown here.
>tfw when I get a warning from the faggot jannie because I make fun of the intel queer that constantly spams his forced meme >he spams every thread and starts them before bump limit but is still here Yawn.
