Be me CS student

fucking thank you
I didnt spend 16 years of my life learning just to end up in something I dont like
I couldve started working at mcdonalds or some shitty job earlier
I dont see how its different in this case

The one thing that gives me hope for my future, is that people like you exist.
Decline more jobs, it makes the rest of us look better by comparison

My cousin owns a business I can always add experience and he can cover for me
Resume isnt the problem

Examine your attitude. If you are going to decline almost everything because "hurr it's not what I want" then yes you're dumb.
That said, nothing wrong with declining per se if it's just genuinely going to hassle your studies.

Every single person can tell
I work with people like this. You are setting expectations that you aren't even going to know you aren't meeting.

>That said, nothing wrong with declining per se
What the fuck? This is the first proper use of 'per se' I've seen in years. I might have to archive this post, or maybe frame it...per say. (Protip: If you substitute per se with "by itself" into a sentence and it doesn't make any sense, then don't fucking say per se)

?

Most people use 'per se' as a substitute for "so to speak", rather than its proper use - "by itself". Really irritates me cause you see it everywhere. It was not a sarcastic post, congrats Perseus user

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_se

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>Why should I have to learn something I dont like just cause Im a student? I got a free will, they don't pick me I also pick them.
Nigga, is your minor in fucking philosophy? You want employers to pick you, over other people, that means doing the dirty work until you got the resume you need for the good stuff. Universities want your money, if you're too dumb to stick it through a course past the drop deadline, they wont want you.

How will they tell? If I work with php for some time and then move on to another job that uses different languages/framework/whatever I will still start from square one.
Unless you say I should work with PHP for the rest of my life cause thats the only job offer I currently have then I say fuck that

what are you talking about

How would working with php help my resume in something I like? (idk what I like I just know its not php)

Buddy, I'm genuinely the guy that said yes to an offer identical to that. I managed to work my way onto the security team, and now we're thinking of building it up, with me as one of its first members.
And we can tell by attitude and programming decisions. University comp sci absolutely leaves students in an unusable state, and when a kid says he has experience that he doesn't, it's obvious

My mate did the mistake of accepting a job right out of school working in a legacy codebase whose development that was onshored. The pay was alright but it was extremely frustrating and time consuming. After 2 years he had barely learned anything new besides how much Indians can fuck up things. Try to always land a job where you LEARN things, it's going to help you find your next job. Otherwise you're depreciating your skills.

Please tell me where can I get that pepe

Your buddy was incapable of learning anything in two years of being employed in a field he hasn't worked in before? He sounds retarded.

Aliexpress

It's not that your resume needs php written on it
It's that you could have php written in the work experience section, and maybe places with cool development jobs won't have their HR department trash your resume instantly

There's nothing to learn but the programming in itself which will not be useful in different programming jobs

Ahem I can add as much shit as I want to my resume

There's nothing to learn from a 100k LOC Java CRUD codebase

Hey man, good luck. University isn't as good as it could be, and you're going to appear completely incompetent

Is this an American thing like "could of"? Because English is my second language, and I never thought of using the phrase in any other way. I suppose those who learn English in advance are less prone to making catastrophically retarded errors (like your/you're, could have/could of, spelling errors), but are more prone to stylistic errors like getting used to writing extremely lengthy sentences (like this one, lmao).

This is exactly what I meant by in this post () and why I was wary of bashing OP like everyone else.
Legacy should immediately raise you a red flag. You're going to learn nothing and just frustrate yourself trying to get to the bottom of legacy kraken.
You're possibly going to jeopardize your studies this way too. But yeah, the pay is usually good usually cause no one else has the patience to do this shit.

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>university is for learning

Nigga when you get out from uni you will realize you don't even know how to wipe your ass properly

The real question is : How much dies it pays?

Warren Buffet says u did the right thing.

"skip to work" and all that shit

university isn't free in americlap, which is where I assume OP is from. OP is paying for the opportunity to work and git gud and passing it up.

You went to college to waste your money and the main thing that happens to you that actually will give people a reason to hire you, you just turned that shit down. Holy fuck what a fucking little retard. I hope you are happy living on the streets when nobody will hire you since a cs degree is never required, work experience is.

Didn't ask or sign anything.
Probably 500$ a month since I live in the Balkans

university gives no real work experience. Nobody gives a fuck that you sat though a lecture for four years. They care that you got a job and worked in an environment like theirs and that you can work easily. Also a majority of cs grads don't know how to code anyways.

So I just work for myself and do my own projects to prove I'm good enough? I don't see the issue.

Ok upload shit to github. Everything you do. put that shit on your resume.
But you should get a good internship since that looks better but if you are good you can get away with just github on lower paying jobs.

If you can work with legacy php code then you will be able to work with anything.
I used to work with a legacy PHP codebase with tens of thousands lines code without any comments and test cases. And the codebase is responsible for handling live ecommerce transactions that are worth over a million euro on daily basis. Everytime I made a change I had to manually trace the code carefully or use a debugger to ensure there won't be anything wrong. It's a very painful experience, but it helped me to be not afraid of modifying other's code even if it's a mess.

You will not be ignorant of servers, db, cli, svc, you will know how to write a transaction, how cache works.

God you are fucking stupid.

There's valuable experience to learn even from working maintenance. So its not newest meme, reading and maintaining the existing code should be enough. Then there's working with people in a development environment, schedules, planning, time management, different techniques god or bad, etc.
Pretending to be a know it all is going to give you issues.

Pretty good for the region.
I'd say go for it user, chances are you'll learn a lot, cause those old systems are most of the time more bare metal than bloated frameworks like Laravel.

You'll then have good fundations and you'll rock out in the webdev world

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Those anons, user.

No one goes to uni to learn to wipe their ass.

I have multiple years of experience developing PHP webapplications. Quit some time ago. You've made the right decision. There's enough dirty indians to do the job. Find a white mans job. All you would've learned are bad practices.

This nigga is not even out of school he would be lucky to shine my shoes

we are talking netto now, but.. thats pretty shit pay
~5eur / h is for the lowest tech jobs for students (call center, call catcher at helpdesk) in v4 countries
junior coders (especially php, python, js) get close to 8-10 eur per month

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i dont wanna be a webdev

>$8-10 per month

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yes, run

>Op 3 years later (assuming he gets his degree, which is highly unlikely)
>WAAAAAAH WHY IS NOBODY HiriNG ME EVEN THOUGH I HAVE ZERO WORK EXPERIENCE AND NO iNTERNSHIPS? REEEEEEE

>legacy php5 shit
you dodged a bullet, good job

anything worth developing that isn't web dev is going to require math or electrical engineering knowledge far outside the scope of a computer science curriculum. if you didn't want a webdev job you shouldn't have majored in CS.

I'm glad idiots like you are my competition :^)

>he doesn't realize a computer science degree is a glorified CRUD certificate

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If you had other jobs lined up, then yes. Otherwise you should have sucked it up and dealt with until you found something interesting to do instead.
Job experience is the thing that sets you apart from other students.

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