Can Australia call themselves leaders in technology with internet speeds like this ?
Is Australia a 1st world tech country?
Matthew Bailey
Cooper Lewis
Honestly, not really.
It is 100% stifling your tech industry, and it would be a massive return on investment to your economy if you just ponied up for a full fiber deployment.
Adrian Edwards
Why is the internet infrastructure in australia so bad?
Parker Morris
because they refuse to pay up for a proper fiber to the home deployment. Instead relying on copper last mile connections.
Levi Collins
christ. i get 8 Mb/s down with my shitty att dsl
Luis Harris
LOL that's literally four times better than the best internet I can get here, and I live in a medium-sized city in the midwest
Connor Ward
>midwest
well there's your problem.
William Sanchez
78/36 for me in Aus
Don't' really care to be honest, that's multiple 4k Netflix/YT streams
Can still download a full stupidly large game in 40min to 1 hour something
Brayden Clark
People with a HFC connection can get 100/2 speeds, best fiber can give you 100/40 and adsl is anywhere from 25/1 to 0
Michael Jones
>fiber can give you 100/40
250/100 been available for a while
> this also means when upgrades are complete we will be able to offer your nbn™ POI with the opportunity to connect at both the 150/100Mbps and 250/100Mbps speed tiers*
Parker Foster
>best fiber can give you 100/40
see the difference is with fiber you just have to add more capacity at the local node with a better OLT and suddenly you can give each client 1gbps.
My ISP started with 50mbps back in 2009.
In 2011 I got 150mbps, in 2017 I got 1gbps. This was all delivered using the SAME ONT at my home, the SAME fiber cable.
Just required the ISP to upgrade their own gear.
Luke Phillips
now try to do it over globe
Camden Davis
Got a destination in mind?
Carter Rivera
try europe
James Miller
the only reason we've got to where we are now is because people revolted over data caps and everyone watches online videos or netflix now, otherwise we would still be on 12/1 connections lul
I still remember when netflix started in AUS, a 30 minute show took about 2 hours to watch because internet was so slow.
Jaxson Torres
Pretty much everything in this nation is done on a shoestring budget.
It's pathetic.
Blake Bennett
Elijah Torres
>I still remember when netflix started in AUS, a 30 minute show took about 2 hours to watch because internet was so slow.
lol fuck off cunt not everyone had such shit net. you only need 4mbps for netflix HD
If you're net was that shit you wouldn't have watched any videos online or even loaded myspace pages
Cameron Mitchell
lol trash
don't wanna pay that $ for international links
Tyler Lewis
Lol what $?
It's under $100/month and includes TV and Internet.
It's a residential internet plan in the US.
The biggest limiting factor is the undersea cables to europe, really doesn't matter what ISP you have.
Anthony Nguyen
>really doesn't matter what ISP you have
Except it does
you think people spend tens of millions running a cable across the fucking ocean for free? and then repair them constantly
No, they're a tier 1 isp and your isp pays them
Nicholas Murphy
>No, they're a tier 1 isp and your isp pays them
Verizon IS a tier 1 ISP...
It's just limited capacity on those links you moron.
Jeremiah Myers
they're regional, hence why you get gigabit in the US
>In a single second, its six fiber-optic pairs, stretching roughly 13,000 kilometers (8,000 miles) between Hong Kong and Los Angeles, will be able to send some 144 terabits in both directions.
>The cable, which has the fitting name “FASTER,” can transmit 60 terabytes of data per second,
>dozens of cables just out of LA alone
>it's bandwidth not my ips paying less
Jonathan Morris
>live in a house built during the first development of NBN
>fibre-to-the-premise with no copper
can't wait to get gigabit in 100 years time...
Isaiah Diaz
No they're not.
Verizon Enterprise partially owns a good number of those undersea cables.
Verizon FiOS is Verizon's residential fiber which IS regional.
BUT they use the same infrastructure and peering, and their traffic is routed along the same routes with the same agreements as the enterprise.
Literally tied for the 2nd largest fiber route of any tier 1 ISP. 500,000 miles of fiber.
And just a year or two ago they placed an order with Corning for over 1B for a few million miles of fiber cables to be delivered by 2020.
Chase Ortiz
lmao that's all fibre including REGIONAL
what don't you fucking get
>Verizon Business, the No. 2 U.S. phone company’s unit in charge of corporate clients, said it joined a consortium of 16 companies to build a 9,000 mile optical cable system linking the three continents.
>16 companies
VERIZON OWNS IT
Jack Rivera
Lmao you're a retard if you don't think Verizon is Tier 1 because they ALSO operate a regional ISP.
Brandon Campbell
Imagine living in shithole Australia when there is a country that is so much better close by.
Cameron Carter
Verizon leases or partially owns around 80 undersea cables, they're 100% considered a tier 1 ISP.
Evan Allen
>Can Australia call themselves leaders in technology with internet speeds like this ?
Those guys are just "First World-ish" at best
Hudson Hall
No i'm arguing they don't own as many cables as you think and you think it's capacity lmao
tier 1 doesn't just mean undersea cables
why are you justifying your trash internet so fucking hard?
Justin James
All the internet traffic that has to go through Sydney to reach 15 million people and their devices
fug me
David White
What is better for less? Go ahead, i'll wait.
1-3ms ping to valve servers at dulles
5-10ms ping to pretty much anything hosted in new york.
15-20ms ping to chicago
etc
etc
Brayden Phillips
kek, i get better internet in Australia from almost 10,000 miles away than most Australians do domestically.
Jordan Moore
Hfc is 115/5 with Telstra. Upload sucks but I've had 0 issues with peak hour slowdowns at all, downloads sit at 14.5MB/s on steam all day every day, and no data caps either. Have downloaded over 250GB in one sitting with speed not dropping once in the 6 or so hours it took.
Zachary Young
Forgot to post test.
Bentley Harris
>Verizon
Here is some results from a local ISP
The link is 500mbps
Ayden Harris
wew
>246 vs 242
>174 vs 148
and they weren't to the same servers, so the testing is already not identical in that regard.
Anthony Parker
It was just for comparison really
I honestly expected it to be worse really as despite having 500mbps, I never see it outside of fringe cases
Angel Parker
Here is mine to the telestra server
Jaxson Robinson
>so much better
at least we haven't submitted to Sharia Law unlike New-Zealistan.
Mason Campbell
No, China is not a 1st world country.
Hudson Evans
Conservative government was lobbied by Rupert Murdoch because streaming is a threat to paid television services, and hence their control over the media
David Cooper
Our online communication service industry is fucked thanks to forced decryption spying compliance
Christopher Young
>a superior technology is a threat to an obsolete technology
who woulda thunk
Ryan Wood
Contrarian Jew politics
Oliver Thomas
They have recently passed a law that blatantly allows thr government to force devs to secretly add backdoors on demand (noncompliance is a jail tine for you, chumly).
So no, they are fucking not.