Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY >List your uses e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors include purpose & graphics pairing >NO Speccy or "bottleneck checkers"
CPUs based on current prices >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming >R3 2200G - Light 30-60fps gaming(dGPU optional). 2400G if you want a CPU which can last into a GPU upgrade >R5 2600/X - Good 60fps+ gaming & multithreaded use >9700k - Wait for new patched benchmarks >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper - HEDT
>BE AWARE that Microsoft, Apple, and others recommend disabling hyperthreading on Intel CPUs. Be aware that Intel tried to bribe researchers to delay releasing the vulnerability by an extra 6 months so they could do another stock sell off and release you scam 10th gen CPUs with HT.
>Avoid buying CPUs for the next week as zen 2 based CPUs are being announced in less than 10 days
RAM >NEVER use only a single stick >8GB - very light use, and/or if you don't mind closing programs regularly >16GB - standard amount. If you have to ask if you need more, you don't >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2800MHz+ is ideal. Check "more" for true latency formula
Graphics cards based on current pricing: 1080p >RX 570/580 - value. >1660 - Slightly better perf for more demanding games on high/maxed 60fps+; > 1660Ti / 1070 / Vega56 - higher framerates 1440p (WQHD) >1070Ti / Vega - 60-120fps+ in most games on high/maxed >2070 Overclocked or Radeon VII - Worth considering >2080Ti - higher framerates 2160p (4k) >Radeon VII - weaker than 2080ti >RTX 2080Ti - good, but poor value.
Other >Consider a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & HDD >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard >PLAN BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
So I have the G.SKILL Flare X Series 16GB F4-3200C14D-16GFX module, it runs at 2400mhz right now. When I built my PC ages ago I set it to run at 3000mhz but for some reason after checking recently it skedaddled back to 2400mhz. I tried to manually overclock it to 3200mhz and set the latencies accordingly as described by the manufacturer and set the voltage to a recommended 1.350v, now I noticed curiously at the time that the voltage of the DRAM was only 1.2~v. Anyways fast forward to booting up I got a glore of start-up issues and BSOD's of various registry files and VGA issues and had to switch to HDMI to get any video. This instability disappeared after I set back my RAM to 2400mhz and higher latency clocks.
How do I get my RAM to run at the advertised speeds? XMP and memory try it! don't work. I'm afraid manually overclocking again might send me into another maelstrom of issues and instability
Should I buy an RTX 2060 or Vega 56? I haven't overclocked/undervolted in my life, but I am willing to learn if it will give me significant increases in performance.
Andrew Anderson
How many intake fans and exhaust fans are ideal in a gaming PC?
if you just want 1080p high fps out of the box, 2060. If you want to OC, play at 1440p, and have more wiggle room because of extra VRAM, V56.
Austin Price
I have the sapphire pulse v56, it's pretty good. Adjusting clocks and fan speed is easy with AMD wattman. Plus it's like 30-60 bucks cheaper than the 2060 now.
John Foster
Anyone here tried Silicon Power's SSDs? How are the NVMes in comparison to other brands, like Adata?
I’m someone stupid and poor trying to get a SSD, never had one, where to look
Chase Young
second this
Ryder Murphy
What is a good, modern, non-ricer tier micro atx case with disc drive bays, no RGB or glass nonsense, for once actually good fucking airflow
Evan Powell
What mouse do I get anons? I've just been using a lenovo office mouse because it was free. I'm trying to spend under $100 on it.
Joshua Brown
Single Channel has slower bandwidth than Dual Channel so this translates into reduced performance using 1 stick.
Daniel Gomez
Really depends on your if you want all the bells and whistles. Though I suppose there's a question of the quality of things like the mousewheel perhaps, always feels like mine have sensitivity issues after a while.
No, I used to have my SSD screwed in by one screw to the case.
Don't waste money on that. Just get an 860 evo for cheap.
William Cooper
fuck me got problem running MORHAU, mostly GPU and RAM getting fucked. any recommends for making it run more smoothly?
Luke Parker
Get a wired g403 and it will never do you dirty The wireless one is also great
Angel Thomas
do you guys think that memory compatibility problems will be gone with Zen2, or everyone will be searching for more b-die sticks?
Jeremiah Reed
Is 2080ti supposed to be in the OP post twice ?
Christopher Sullivan
>State the budget & CURRENCY List your uses e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work Music production with a little casual gaming on the side I guess. >For monitors include purpose & graphics pairing Music production and casual gaming
Smooth instrument recording is by the top priority here. I’m switching from >macs, which I’ve never had a single latency or recording issue with at all. That’s important to me if I’m gonna switch to a PC. Help?
Landon Gray
That is a neat fact.
The Vega 56 is like $50 cheaper plus the games you can potentially resell, isn't it? As long as it's the Powercolor or Sapphire one, that's just better price:performance and can OC the same.
Silicon Power is fine as long as you're not getting their old 2D NAND models. So is Team Group, for that matter. SSD brand doesn't matter much as their controllers and NAND all come from the same sources.
Yes. Many cards are posted twice for dif resolutions.
Uh it runs fine on an RX570 doesn't it? What do you have?
Can you wait for Zen2? It's being announced in 2 weeks and should be out within 2 months.
Memory compat problems are mostly already gone, especially if you use an MSI board...
Jace Peterson
I guess I could wait, yes. I’d prefer not to, but there’s nothing stopping me besides impatience
Ayden Evans
Post photos of your bios oc
Jace Ramirez
Daily reminder to not fall for the AMD shill pushing vega because of muh 8GB of VRAM. You need "enough" VRAM, for sure but extra VRAM does not give you any kind of performance boost, unlike an actually faster and more efficient architecture.
Is this worse than a reservoir + pump combo? I feel like attaching anything that might generate heat to a cpu block is dumb, but i might be wrong, you know?
Levi Foster
>Yes goy, buy the $350 GPU, don't buy the $300 GPU that performs the same after undervolting and overclocking
Your personalities are overlapping. You're making it too obvious you were the same guy who was ban evading.
Parker James
Building an emulation box for my living room, what gpu would y'all niggas recommend for emulation up to 6th gen consoles (gc/Xbox/ps2) and some 5-10 year old games like nfs and phantasy star? I'd like to run 4k@60 and quiet as possible. I'd also take 1080p@60 if it's far cheaper. Ayyymd preferred.
Benjamin Lopez
So after replacing my power supply and cleaning out my shit as good as I possibly could, applying new thermal paste, and installing another fan, my PC still crashes when trying to play games that aren't all that demanding. Specifically Borderlands 1 (not the HD remaster version). Used to be able to run it flawlessly with no issues at all, max settings on pretty much everything iirc so I figured it's a good starting point to benchmark my shit. I spoke to a guy at Best Buy about it today and he told me it sounds like an issue with the motherboard. Said something about the socket or capacitors? I don't remember which, honestly. Just got off work and I spoke to the guy almost 12 hours ago. Is the guy full of shit or could either of those things cause frequent crashing?
Anyway, I'm gonna try to roll with replacing the motherboard as the solution. If it doesn't work, then at least I'll sort of be forced to upgrade my entire setup since I built it in 2015 anyways, and even then most of the tech was already a year old or so. My second question is, what is a good motherboard replacement that I can fit in my case and that will fit my graphics card? The card is kind of humongous. The biggest standalone piece inside my tower by a good margin. It's my first and only build and a friend walked me through a lot of it so I'm not exactly sure how to shop for this stuff. Boxes are long gone.
user, are you sure you didn't cherry-pick that specific game? Because you're already showing only the 0.1% low for 1080p, presumably because the average and the 1% low don't fit the point you're trying to make.
Sebastian Ramirez
Different user here, but I game @1440p 155Hz with a Vega64 (Strix) no problem. Settings are maxed except for ugly shit like ambient occlusion. No AA obviously, as at this DPI level it isn't really necessary anymore. Relatively consistent frametimes, GPU never goes beyond 70°C.
Yeah the Geforce 2xxx series will be faster, but Vega and above do pack a punch and enable high frame rate gaming even at higher resolutions.
Andrew Howard
Of course he's not recommending the 2060 when the Vega 56 costs less right now. When the 2060 first came out, it was the better buy because it was cheaper than the 56. 2080=VII, though I can see why he'd recommend the card with more VRAM if all else is equal.
Henry Diaz
Are DIY laptops a thing? I keep thinking about building a PC, but I just can't justify juggling two or three separate parts when I need to work on the move.
Except I haven't been banned and this wont get deleted either. But I guess when you take as "anybody who criticizes anything AMD be it products, fans, shills" then I guess it's very easy for you to lump everybody into one person.
>user, are you sure you didn't cherry-pick that specific game? I just looked up the video somebody else posted last thread. If you want to say cherry-pick you are in your right to do so as it's one game and I myself don't think 1 games good or bad performance should dictate somebodys purchase unless they really care about that game that much.
>Because you're already showing only the 0.1% low for 1080p, presumably because the average and the 1% low don't fit the point you're trying to make. I don't get it, when you look at intel vs amd you guys always scream "look at the low 0.1% it stutters! As soon as it's gpus and in favor of AMD you go that 0.1% doesn't matter, please make up your mind. Incidentally I agree on the 0.1% mattering as who cares if you have 1000fps if your lows are in 20fps. As an exaggerated example.
>Of course he's not recommending the 2060 when the Vega 56 costs less right now. If people find vega 56 for a siginificantly lower price, go for it. But when that wasn't the case AMD shills spammed 6GB IS ENOUGH meme to hold people over until shit like this happened and navi comes out. If vega 56 is significantly cheaper and with a custom cooler, go for it. But don't go for it because MUH 6GB IS NOT ENOUGH meme. Simple?
>2080=VII, though I can see why he'd recommend the card with more VRAM if all else is equal. Radeon 7 is hotter thus louder. Something most users care about. It also doesn't have ray tracing. Something some users care about.
>if I just reduce video settings I get different results wow, what a revelation
Thomas Kelly
Will next threadrippah use a new socket? I'd like to upgrade my 1920x to maybe something with 16 cores.
Owen Murphy
The heat of the pump is dumped into the water no matter where it is in the loop and it is an insignificant amount of heat.
Carter Butler
I had that happen to me recently. But on my case my 3200 g.skill ripjaws went back to 2133 after almost 2 years of no issue. Also windows decided to detect 16gb but only use 8gb while the rest is "system reserved" and bios only detects one stick so it may be due to some fuckery from windows updates.
Henry Stewart
let me guess.... windows 10, why do you retards fall for this shit
Caleb Lopez
Purpose: low-mid budget computer for VM, x86 Android, and 3D modeling and later rendering, maybe basic gaming in 1080p in downtime.
>>if I just reduce video settings I get different results >wow, what a revelation Nice retort. Benchmarks use highest settings to max out. We are talking about the OP's recommendations which are for real world use - which is often drastically different from benchmark use.
Colton Sanders
>compare 2060 vs vega 56 >6GB IS NOT ENOUGH!, but on higher rez, but on higher settings >well here is a benchmarks that shows that's not the case >YEAH WELL IF reduce video settings my vega 64 handles it fine!
Almost any GPU will handle almost any game fine if you reduce the settings enough. That's not the point the point is relative performance between the two fucking cards. And even then you did NOTHING to address the point of performance difference between the two cards, you just said buy vega because if you reduce video settings it will be fine.
Isaac Morales
I can't see the "first" scale of colors with my new monitor, I tried to fuck around with brightness and contrast but with no success, the only thing that seems working is an option called "Black Tuner". I guess it's the black equalizer. I can see them 1 click more than the default value, but everything get's retardedly more bright (not by much)
Mag241C or similar? The default "black tuner" gamma setting of 9 is way too low, 10 is pretty much spot on where it should be.
Aaron Sullivan
Which 1tb ssd?
Kevin White
correct MSI Optix MAG271CQR. I tried with 10, but everything get's more bright, looks like I need to drop the brightness even more
Henry Price
Try something like brightness 50, contrast 80
Austin Kelly
Just an idea but do you have adequate storage? Sometimes games crash when you don't have enough free space on hard drives.
Connor Gonzalez
Mordhau was fucked in the last patch. It's running like shit for everyone.
Wyatt Davis
Try breathing through your nose for once: >Almost any GPU will handle almost any game fine if you reduce the settings enough. Only to an extent, but yes. >That's not the point the point is relative performance between the two fucking cards. The point of the OP is to give you an inkling of what card would do well for your specific use case. I am saying that for high res high refresh gaming, a Vega is an option (not the only one of course) >And even then you did NOTHING to address the point of performance difference between the two cards, you just said buy vega because if you reduce video settings it will be fine. I never said buy Vega you illiterate fool. And yeah there is a performance difference. But there is also a price difference that should be taken into account.
Nathaniel Walker
I'll try to fiddle around with the settings, thanks
Nolan Brown
I dunno desu. It was all fine and dandy for so long.
Levi Gomez
Yeah? Shit breaks. Get thaiphoon burner and try read the spd for both slots, see if it says "crc ok" at the bottom of the window.
Ayden Sanchez
how much is low-mid budget? I'd say 2700X and RX570 as what you're doing is more CPU heavy but an RX570 can play any game fine just not always maxed.
What is your backlight setting at?
>PRICE DOESNT MATTER kill yourself, dumb shill
Logan Richardson
16 gigs was the standard five years ago when I built my PC. Why hasn't it gone up?
I don't think there is a backlight settings, one thing I'm noticing right now is the bottom of the screen in more brighter than the top
Zachary Bennett
Price fixing. The standard recommendation actually went back down to 8gb for a while because it got so expensive.
Jaxson Sullivan
>You need "enough" VRAM, for sure but extra VRAM does not give you any kind of performance boost That's wrong though. Games that dynamically scale available VRAM can use more and deliver faster in-game loading screens, less pop-in, etc. Plus advanced eye candy settings that aren't really performance heavy but require more VRAM.
t. 1080 Ti user
Liam Green
There HAS to be a backlight setting. I've never heard of a monitor not having it.
I bought some clevo laptop from my friend because he wanted something lighter and portable. The thing has a socketed i5 8400 desktop processor and 1050ti. Would the cpu be able to handle a 1080ti(any other gpu with similar performance/Navi) down the line once the laptop kicks the bucket?
Sebastian Sullivan
Keyboard/Mouse (USB) hardware switch that supports keyboard or software shortcuts to switch?
Figured it was better here than /sqt/.
Grayson Gray
>6GB IS NOT ENOUGH!!! >here is proof it's not an issue though >PRICE DOESN'T MATTER HUH YOU NVIDIA SHILL you fags are deplorable
>The point of the OP is to give you an inkling of what card would do well for your specific use case. I am saying that for high res high refresh gaming, a Vega is an option (not the only one of course) Look at the OP, where is the 2060, where is the 2080? No where, because AMD shills like it that way.
Jordan Nelson
>16 gigs was the standard five years ago when I built my PC. Why hasn't it gone up? It has, depending on what kind of work you do. If you even think about using your browser nowadays then 16GB is a constant concern.
Honestly 24-32gb is the low-mid sweet spot right now.
Robert Peterson
just get any KVM
Brayden Mitchell
Look at the stores. Where is the 2060 that's cheaper than Vega 56 or even close in price for a decent model?
Austin Flores
should i buy a used gtx 1080? i currently have a 1070 but im struggling to run games well at 2k.
Bentley Brown
got any proof?
Angel Young
POST THE IN-STORE PRICES
Logan Hernandez
>>i currently have a 1070 but im struggling to run games well at 2k. I have a 1070 Ti and a 1080. My target is 1440 and 120-165 and sometimes it struggles. For games aiming at 240~ it's a constant struggle.
I'd say spring the extra for a 1080 Ti and a CLC if you can, or look at RTX alternatives. 1080's alright but it's such a small upgrade. I personally don't think I'd ever upgrade just one GPU model up unless you're alright at the 2nd tier.
Thomas Foster
Any decent low cost KVM switches or places I should start to look? The physical switch on my current one is a huge bottleneck and software solutions have performed too poorly for me.
Eli Ward
I just use an old iogear from the thrift store hit scroll lock twice to switch screens
Evan Clark
clc?
Henry Butler
All-in-one or closed loop cooler, basically just watercooling for extra turbo/OC's since 1080 Ti runs AMD tier hot.
Jacob Howard
How much would you lot pay for two 1440p 60hz tn panels on a gas arm assembly?
Brandon Clark
>If you even think about using your browser nowadays then 16GB is a constant concern. >Honestly 24-32gb is the low-mid sweet spot right now. fuck off
Because both intel and AMD let you have more than 16GB. If intel only let you have 16GB and amd let you have more youd be sure to see shills mention it to you daily how you need more than 16GB and that it's clearly not enough for 1440p! or some shit.
Jordan Hill
It's only like a 20% upgrade at best. Is it really worth it?
$100 i guess if it's a decent one. But I'd much rather have 75hz.
He's trolling. You can't even get 64GB in dual channel.
Hudson Howard
Upgrading my LGA1150 CPU. I’ve got a 4460, do I go for a 4590 (£45) or push my budget a little and get a 4690 (£70)?
No K models as my mobo can’t OC
Asher Baker
Should i sell my 1080p 144hz 24"? to get a ultrawide 1440p 60/75hz 34"
William Clark
great to know, hopefully they fix it then and i'll wait buying new stuff
Adam Rodriguez
someone redpill me on this ultrawide meme first
Nolan Brown
wow that's such a huge waste of 70 euro just for like a 10% improvement. Save up for Ryzen. The 2600X is like 250% better instead and it's been cheap as fuck lately.
Good luck powering 3440x1440p. Go for regular 1440p.
Dominic Anderson
Asrock B450m HDV RX 570 my gpu is blocking 2 of my sata ports, what do?
Lucas Robinson
Will I not see much improvement in rendering and gaming? I’m waiting for Ryzen 3000 and can wait but I wouldn’t mind a faster machine
