Study CS (in eu)

>study CS (in eu)
>people in my course don't give a fuck, half of them don't show up and the other half just plays gacha games on their phones
>try to socialize but they are all so fucking weird
>normies that don't know shit about computers
>smelly gamers that think they know something even though they don't
>nerds that don't talk ever and have the typical school shooter look

Holy shit Jow Forums did you experience similar stuff?
Man if these are the people I have to work with later than I should probably do something else while I still can.

I mean don't get me wrong, I don't want to be best friends with them, but being able to talk with someone that knows at least as much as I do would help immensely, but if it stays like this I have to do all by myself.

I hope half of them drop out by the end of the year.

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what school? my experience was sort of similar in the first/second year, things change as you get to higher level courses though people start getting really serious at least they did where I went

Yuros can't into computer science

All the German interns we get at my (bay area) job are terrible.

My favorite question to ask people

>name an American tech company
Apple! Google! Facebook! Amazon!

It's always instant

Then I ask

>name a European tech company
Crickets.

I will say how interesting it is taking to 20-30 somethings in Europe. They're all so casual about their lives and careers. People seem way less judgemental and way less driven. Seems totally reasonable for a 27 year old to be bartending part time while living at home over there. Over here you'd be considered a failure.

I remember in my Data Structures class some turbo faggot in the front row was playing WoW on his laptop, which I wouldn't have normally cared about cause I've done the same thing but he was raiding so he was clicking his fucking mouse rapidly the whole goddamn class. Everyone ended up staring at him and finally the professor called him out.

CS is where all the rejects are at. Chads study aeronautics.

Same situation. I only show up to mandatory lectures. Which is once a week. Gave up the instant someone asked "What is a CPU?".
IT has been the in thing for a few years now.
Specialised course started with 50 people, start of the second semester we weren't even 20 people left.
Maybe things get better later on but I don't hold out hope.

> >name a European tech company
> Crickets.
Skype, SAP, Yandex, SuSE or whoever bought them.

>SAP
isn't that a button you press on a remote?

>Showing up to all your classes
Topkek

hownew.ru ?
this is like week 1 cs student realisation for anyone and everyone doing CS

You didn't say what course level the class is or whether it's all majors but if you're still doing the intro-level first year courses then this a common sight in every classroom, the fact of the matter is CS is current "golden ticket" degree in the eyes of a lot of people who (understandably) don't know better so the intro courses are dipshit magnets as you've just observed

>studying CS
>only three guys running GNU/Linux on their laptop in a class of ~40
Is this the rule everywhere or just here?

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It's like with text editors, you may be able to draw some correlations based on which one someone uses but it's really only important that they can effectively use the language and platform that their class/work is using

same here 5 out of 60

user, listen. Don't care about those people. Most you'll not see next year. Find people with similar interests and enthusiasm. But focus on the classes/projects and graduate. You can look around in other CS topics after it. This "learning while on uni" is a meme, but wrong.

The types of people you'll be surrounded with later depend on the industry and type of company. If you're in a corporate environment or public administration, you'll usually find the rather dull ones. Enterprise IT and such. If you're more research/innovation heavy, e.g. robotics or automation or embedded systems or IT consulting with a focus on functional programming, there are a couple of smarties.

>I hope half of them drop out by the end of the year.
It'll happen after the second semester at most.

congrats faggot, you fell for the college meme and you are now wasting precious time and money sitting next to losers. When will you wake up and change things?

there was one chad that ran gentoo and emacs but i was too big of a faggot to strike up a conversation. other than that there are bunch of weebs (myself included) in my group and we're all using debian or its derivatives. people op was talking about dropped out in 1st semester.

He probably doesn't spend a penny, actually.

I knew a ton of people who ran linux during college CS and as soon as they graduated they all switched back to linux except me, the funny thing is they would make fun of me for using "casual" linux distros and not compling everything myself

I've been in a corporate environment for the last few years but I'm getting kind of sick of realizing how dumb and shoddy the work we're producing actually is, how does one jump over from there to a field where actually interesting things happen?

>REEEE why don't normies want to be friends with the weird kid
lmao

Same here, I at least managed to find a couple of lads who aren't total spergs. It's either normies who overestimate themselves dramatically or full on autists who haven't talked to anyone besides their moms since they were 10. Thank god I have a lot of good friends I met from somewhere else studying other shit on the same campus.

Read up on the topics that (may) interest you, play around with them. Look which companies (or research labs, if that's your thing) are around that work on/with said technologies. Search on youtube and image search whether you'll find them on conference recordings, fairs etc. and what impression that makes on you. Smart and profound? Hipsters with the latest meme tech? Do so until you think you've found your match. Try to engage in the wider community to know more people and opportunities. Just tell them that you're interested, ask how you could get your foot into the door. Show that you have some (basic) understanding of the subject (current problems, tools, mindset) and the industry and ask for more to dive in deeper.

I switched years ago from a dead end in simulation (after an exciting period it leveled rather fast and became a Java thing) to artificial (general) intelligence. Now it's AI and space.
Initiative, trying things out, discarding what's not working or what you don't like until you arrive at a set of topics you like and feel good with.

Depends on your taste now. If you want no-nonsense classical CS with little hype and variation, best look at embedded systems and such where they often use C or C++, have classical tools, sometimes do smart formal methods to prove things. If you're more into opportunities and can stand a lot of novelty and uncertainty, look into expanding and dynamic fields like artificial intelligence and machine learning or, if you're a dare devil with a high pain threshold, web programming.

Yeah, sorry, blogposting today.

bonef? Is that you?

Might even get paid to attend university depending on the EU country

Acorn/ARM Holdings is a pretty major one.

CS in Germany is a sad meme, I know more than most of my profs but still can't get a job without the degree its a shame rly, wasted time.

>name an American tech company
Does Arianespace count?

sound like ideal autists that I would hang out. I go to med school, and It's full of slithering normies with god complexes

fuck I meant to copypaste the line about europe

Embedded systems may be an option though I've heard that in a lot of those projects the programmer is basically implementing an already fully-specified system by rote, I have a few open-source projects I worked on a few years ago that involved reverse engineering old games which I found to be an interesting challenge but I have always hesitated to "advertise" them to employers let alone put my Github on my resume for a few different (admittedly somewhat irrational) reasons

>Arianespace
Dependent on subsidies because they cannot compete on the open market. Fantastic example.

Depends on the industry and what you are (or the company is) focusing on. If you're aiming for novel IoT stuff, you could be part of the architects early on and implement that stuff. It's a bit startup-biased though. Less pay, but more options and potentially more fun.

You could throw all the things that interest you, say {embedded systems/IoT, biotech, clean environment}, together and see what at their cross-roads appears to be a good idea or even an opportunity.

Second semester it's all majors.

This sounds like my experience. I majored in CS and Math and found the math people to be much more socially adjusted. Most of the loser cringy CS students drop out or get shitty marks but will act as if they're acing courses.

when I was in college a few years ago we had one guy who was a walking meme. Long, unkempt hair, neckbeard, trench coat, fingerless gloves, watched MLP on his laptop before every class. He made it to the 300-level classes but I'm not really sure how, I never saw him after that so I don't know if he washed out or just took extra time to plow through it

my classes were a bit better than that, more if you counted the people who dual-booted. but yeah, still not that many.

>tfw I am the weird guy who people are talking about ITT who got shitty grades and dropped out and yet knows more than most people
fite me

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Dumb Satania poster!

shouldn't you be off blowing mactoddlers?

I don't know what the filtering mechanism is but math departments seem to be almost exclusively composed of reasonably interesting and socially well adjusted people.

How? considering so many math teachers are assholes.

Nah I never do that.
I don't even watch anime, it was in my folder

I'm not your typical autiste supreme! I ascended early!

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I'm not sure why. I'm doing grad school in math now so I have bias but I've found theoretical math courses to be significantly harder than those in the CS department. It's also much harder to hand in something that's "good enough" in math, if your problem set is logically shitty, you're fucked.


2 things here: math profs are usually really cool or assholes because of their lack of social skills. They usually mean well. Highschool teachers on the other hand know almost no math at all so they overcompensate.

>math teachers
Teachers aren't mathematicians. They are, by definition, assholes. Proof is left to the student.

Part of it is that most people don't look at math and think "if I do that I'll write the next billion dollar app!" and teenagers don't decide to major in math because they spent all their free time in their formative years playing WoW, both of these factors attract some incredibly stupid people to sign up to CS

>nerds that don't talk ever and have the typical school shooter look
I started to prod one such person in my class, he seemed fucking angry reserved constantly. One of the girls working with him in group told me she was legit frightened he'd do school shooting, but girls are rarted anyway. I approached him every so often and talked to him, it seemed pointless but he opened up after a while, now he's a good conversation partner and we do activities together with a group of friends from class who seemed to be the clueless type at first. Things develop over time.

CS has always been incel heaven

It's always the people who know the most beforehand who get the low grades

>Euro CS
I used to socialize at bachelor's because I had the time, went places, even got laid with a classmate (female).
Now I'm at Master's with 3 days a week employ on the side and I don't give a single fuck about talking to the people.

Being experienced in calling libraries and frameworks to make websites that take 500MB of RAM to function doesn't mean you know about computer science

CS in netherlands here. most in my class are completely normal people except for like 1 or 2 sperg fags

Do you know what "know the most" means?

>CS
>Not all spergs

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I guess dutch people are just superior species

My cousin studied CS and now he lives in a cookie cutter apartment he has to share with a Pajeet while he works as a codemonkey.

Meanwhile I studied accounting and learned to code on my own, now I own a company that uses drones to map structural defects in buildings and I'm making bank on it, own my own house.

If you land a bachelor's degree in CS and an MBA you can avoid being a code monkey. You can make up to 90k a year

Yeah, it's a curse
Oh, the projection!
>up to

Half of them will drop out. The nerds won't, so concentrate on them for co-workers.

>>up to
As long as you're in the top 60-75%

If you can read and implement stuff properly you've already eliminated 80% of the competition.

Where does your cousin live and what type of projects is he working on?