Ryzen 3000 X570

Forget about a uselessly high amount of cores.
What do you need x10 USB 3.x for?
What do you need 12 USB total for?
What do you need NVMe drives in RAID for?
What do you need LAN, WAN on the chipset for?
What do you need USB 3.x directly on the CPU for?
What do you need audio directly on the CPU for?

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Answer?
You don't.
4700k is all you need till 2020.

because its based and btfos intelaviv

>you
You don't need anything, apparently, but people who actually use machines for work need as much throughput on their devices as possible

>why do you need expandability and low latency goy?

Fuck off.

So it's the same 2 x8, 1 x4 and 3 x1 PCIe setup as before, eh? Well, at least it's PCIe 4.

As for the number of USB ports and so on.. I don't know what you are connecting or not but it doesn't take that many things before you have occupied quite a lot of ports,
-keyboard
-mouse
-printer
-bluetooth adapter
-remote control adapter
-joystick
that's only 6, so I guess I could do with 6 except when I plugin either a USB stick or USB-to-MicroSD apater in which case I need 7 or 8.

I am curious to see how the launch of this chipset plays out, btw. We already know a) it's about twice as power-hungry as current-generation X470 chipsets and b) it is also a lot more expensive and motherboard partners ain't going to eat that cost. so board will probably be priced higher, either that or costs will have to be cut elsewhere. idk where.

Will x670 support thunderbolt?

No one needs more than four cores, goyim.

>What do you need x10 USB 3.x for?
>What do you need 12 USB total for?
So I don't have to buy a hub? What the fuck are you on, user?

Anything above 2 cores is an overkill. Everyone knows that games only use one core. All thise other cores just stay idle.

>What do you need audio directly on the CPU for?
Hasn't always been like this tho?
Or the audio chipset connects to the south bridge then the cpu?

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Cant tell if you're just retarded, trolling or stuck in 2012

What do you need more than one core for!? Oy vey!

I've got the following USB devices

UPS
DAC for headphones
DAC for speakers
Mouse
Keyboard
Microphone
PS4 controller
External HDD dock
occasionally my phone

Oh yeah, forgot my webcam

Printer is networked at least.

>CPU has USB 3.1 gen 1
>PCH has USB 3.1 gen 2
Wtf? Why is it not the other way around?

Are we listing USB devices we always have plugged in or are frequently used?
>Keyboard
>Mouse
>Graphics tablet
>Speakers
>External hard drives (x2)

Sometimes:
>Whatever wireless adapter I need to use
>Flash drive(s)
>Microphone
>Whatever game controller
>Phone
Probably some other shit I'm forgetting. Filling up those slots can take seconds.

>Or the audio chipset connects to the south bridge then the cpu?
Yes the audio chipset connects to the chipset and then to the CPU.
Ryzen 3000 will have audio chipset directly on the SoC.

>it is also a lot more expensive and motherboard partners ain't going to eat that cost. so board will probably be priced higher, either that or costs will have to be cut elsewhere. idk where.
Apparently the ASMedia chipsets were crazy expensive for what they gave.
>So it's the same 2 x8, 1 x4 and 3 x1 PCIe setup as before, eh? Well, at least it's PCIe 4.
... You realize PCIe 4.0 x1 is equivolant to 3.0 x2 and 2.0 x4, right? Apparently not, but there you go. This effectly has almost 3x the lanes as current gen.

@71052685 (you)
>computers don't matter

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>utilitarian fallacy
LMAO

homie you dont even KNOW how much usb stuff i plug into my pc. still need more.

Why not?

We're lucky that we have so many exposed lanes.
Get a mitx mobo if that bothers you.

I'm actually on the other side of the argument and I'm mad that mobo OEMs won't make more ports to utilize all of these PCI lanes that the CPU supplies.

Not everyone is a cuck for muh bluetooth.

We like to use wired devices for latency/battery/security.

Based AMD is saving me from having HUBs for my mic,joystick,gamepad,racingwheel,racingpedals,poweredspeakers,mouse,keyboard,external drive,phone tether and charging port, KVM usb power, and a spare for flashdrives/mmc reader

>What do you need x10 USB 3.x for?
>What do you need 12 USB total for?
Because garbage hubs with garbage chipsets need to be eradicated. Every USB device deserves its own dedicated slot and bandwidth straight from the CPU/chipset.

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>not having WiFi & BT included with your motherboard
You guys need to get on this shit. Most decent mITX boards come with a WiFi & BT add-on card pre-installed.

If only it was a PCIe 4.0 16x and 4x slot

legacy p/s2 and the rest lastest gen USB slots.

seems ridiculous having so many different standards of things on a board.

That will throw the price right up

Amen

10 USB 3.x ports? What do you need 5 USB ports for? Aren't 3 ports enough? Here's your USB port bro.

>Ryzen 3000 will have audio chipset directly on the SoC.
then how does it work on x470 motherboards

You're going to hear from my lawyer about that USB port you owe me!

just how desperate are you, intelfags

this is embarassing

>PCI4 x4 is the same bandwidth as my x16 links
It is finally, almost time to retire my system into the home server/emulation streaming role I've always dreamed of.

thank Im fine with x370, goin to upgade to zen2 intelfag dont know this experience

You keep asking why, the answer is why not?

>Ryzen 3000 will have audio chipset directly on the SoC.
This makes no sense, more likely is it has area on the silicon for a direct link to the audio chipset
Audio chipsets are usually linked through the southbridge. I suppose linking it directly to the CPU will help with latency even though I'd hardly consider it a pressing matter to reserve die area for.

wait... wait... still no thunderbolt 3?

what the actual fuck?

>W-What do you need a computer f-for, user?

delid dis

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>audio connected directly to cpu
That wasted lanes and bandwidth
audio should be connected to directly to the psu and fry audiofags brain

Mouse
Trackball
Keyboard
Multiple external hdds/usb flashes when needed
phone
dev phone for developement
controller (I play dead cells sometimes...)
second factor usb token
smart card reader
ups
printer/scanner
memory card reader
external dvd rom
....
To be safe I would like 256 usb ports please.

>legacy p/s2
this. Why even bother including those nowadays?

>seems ridiculous having so many different standards of things on a board.
Found underage.
Also ps2 is great thing to have.

>Also ps2 is great thing to have.
why?

Intshills dialing it up as we approach Mama Su's Computex keynote, I see.

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>why do you need all these features?
>why you need to improve CPUs???
>surely no one needs it and this doesn't open more options
It's like more functionality doesn't matter

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What does Switch -> Switch mean? Can I use the third pcie slot, M2 slot and 6xSATA slots at the same time or not?

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>why have dedicated ports for devices 99.99% of users will plug into the board

Either. Not all at the same time.

>99.99% of users will plug into the board
more like 0.01% of boomers that still use ps2 mices.

You use a mouse. Whether you're using a mouse port or a high speed data port for your mouse is on you. They provided the tools to get the job done, it's not their fault you fucked it up

>cores-cores
Ok, kek.

So, only one out of three (3rd pci-e, 2nd M.2 or SATA?

Truer words have not been spoken.

DELID THIS ANTI-SEMITIC PROPAGANDA YOU STUPID GOY

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Oy vey, you owe me 8 cores

I ask people if they need 6 sata ports every time and they answer they would take as many as they are offered. So whatever, I guess. I'm just grateful to AMD for keeping PS/2 port.

I've got 6 drives connected right now and am buying more soon

Intel rekt

>*NEW*USB doesn't matter
>*NEW*NVMe RAID doesn't matter
>*NEW*LAN/WAN doesn't matter

Superior keyboard/mouse connection.
Sure it is hard to get good ps2 mouse/kb but when you get it is great. It can also be used for something else.
And it is dirt cheap to keep on mobo so why remove it?

>Superior mouse connection
Not really. It's great for keyboards, but ps/2 mice sucked ass, that's why nobody includes 2 ps/2 ports nowadays.

usb4*

>no COM and LPT
Garbage.

Okay, COM might actually be useful to someone, but LPT?

>that's why nobody includes 2 ps/2 ports nowadays
They don't include two because the one port functions as both

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FUCKING /THREAD

>Cores doesn't matter!
>USB ports doesn't matter!
>NVMe doesn't matter!
>LAN, WAN doesn't matter!
ok this is cringe

Apparently ps/2 matters tho

> Every USB device deserves its own dedicated slot and bandwidth straight from the CPU/chipset.

Based.

>gee user how come your mom doesn't have a vagina, does her pooper function as both?

That doesn't even remotely make sense. I can't buy an adapter for pennies that lets my mom's anus shoot out babies

Nkey rollover
lower power
not polled data (CPU interupt based)
not shared BUS
no drivers for any OS (hackintosh/*BSD/freedos/reactos/haiku/windows7)

>brainlet coping because he wasn't aware of dual ps/2 port function and was talking out his ass till he got BTFO

You can plug either mouse or keyboard and it'll work or use a splitter to use both like intended.

Yeah, sure, but what makes sense is to STEAL on of 2 ports so you could BUY A FUCKING ADAPTER to use last one port properly.

I bet you two like your iToy with no 3.5jack

Pretty sure most boards with a combo port come with a Y splitter but do go on about how you get jewed out of everything

Yeah, dongles are such a massive issue on non-portable devices where you plug them in and forget they exist for years on end

It means only one at a time. The diagram is ass though. I that case it means the 4x slot shares lanes with the ultra m. 2 slot. But at the same time one of the sata6 lanes would be usable by the m. 2 slot. So six sata and 4x pcie lanes in total.
Anyway the diagram has other problems like the 32gb/s should be 64gb/s for pcie4 speeds all around for example. Its a diagram for a specific motherboard and not x570 in general.

One thing I look forward to is 10gbs on 1x Lane pcie4 cards or having motherboards with loads of available 4lane slots for home server stuff.

>Speakers
They make USB speakers now? Is the latency better? Audio quality? Bit depth/sampling rate? Frequency response? Wattage/loudness?

You don't get the fucking point:
Previously I could use my shit as it is
Now I have to buy dongle to use my shit
BUT THE ONLY FUCKING REASON FOR THIS IS SO THE MANUFACTURER COULD EARN MORE MONEY ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID OR JUST PRETENDING

>For gaming its pointless but for work can be useful
Man, if only you could read

>Pretty sure
Well, guess what: THEY FUCKING DON'T

Ignore the greentext 4chanX pulled that from my clipboard, point is you're a mong

Worked on my machine

>progression of technology is pointless

I'm not sure moar integration and less modularity is the "progression" of technology that I'm looking for.

well you're a fucking retard then

>what do you need extra feature for?
For make me happy that I'm an AMDfags.

Genuine question, considering zombieload being a thing, wouldn’t this be a big problem if a similar exploit happens on this CPU?

>>What do you need x10 USB 3.x for?
>>But muh dongles
Mac user detected

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>imagine buying AMD

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PCs need a superIO chip to function
This provides various legacy IBM PC peripherals that make a PC a PC, this includes PS/2 ports.

>he fell for the modular meme

I'm not sure what he is getting pissed off about anyway
Ryzen isn't doing anything different except having stuff interface directly to the CPU, which in reality makes this more modeler as you can forgo a chipset entirely and still have a functioning PC

>intel mascot is a jew
Welp

this fucking reply doesn't even make sense

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>ryzen
imagine the smell

>dual pcie x8
what? its x16
>dual memory slot
its quad now

based and redpilled

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>Nkey rollover
Exists in USB keyboards
>lower power
At the cost of features.
>not polled data (CPU interupt based)
How is this better with current CPUs?
>not shared BUS
See above
>no drivers for any OS (hackintosh/*BSD/freedos/reactos/haiku/windows7)
Same for USB. My keyboard is literally plug and play with my own layout on any existing or legacy OS.