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Plot twist Huawei's CEO realizes how fucked proprietary software and hardware is. The newest Huawei phone will have an AOSP or LineageOS fork with MicroG to replace Google Apps, it uses a RISC-V CPU developed inhouse and it's killer feature an open source hardware broadcast chip. Providers freak out because hackers can now easily make free phone calls and text messages.
Huawei will bring the open source revolution

(Probably not because retarded business people can't think outside intellectual property)

>it uses a RISC-V CPU developed inhouse and it's killer feature an open source hardware broadcast chip
one can only hope

Somewhere along the line this is going to be walked back.
'You can't make phones because phones have chips in them and we say so.' Great ''''''industry'''''' you've got there.

Daily reminder that chinks are uncreative as fuck. They would be lost without stealing American/European/Jap technology.

I hate China. Let them starve.

>things cucks keep repeating without any visible evidence of such.

Currently every new phone they shipped in the last year is locked down faggot.

>hur they gonna ship linuk :^)
Yeah how about you shill when a product actually shows up?

Time to RISK-V it

>Currently every new phone they shipped in the last year is locked down faggot.
I know, I'm just creating a 'what if?'
>hurr durr shill
I am shilling the perfect phone that doesn't exist, if it exists it was deserving the shilling if it never comes to fruition it still deserves shilling because it's perfect.
Fuck you and your mother.

communists on suicide watch.

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Damn, son.

Huawei got rekt as rekt goes.

>(Probably not because retarded business people can't think outside intellectual property)
and retards like you dont understand the costs associated with developing new chips and operating systems. without mainstream android, huawey is already dead. without arm they're just a dead nigger looking for storage

They make their own chips, ARM is basically just a licensing company that license out their IP cores for manufacturers

>hurr durr china steals secrets
meanwhile in 2015 france discovered that usa was stealing their shit since the 80s and removed most of the licences and patents from the patent office

why would the americans commit suicide?

And retards like you don't realize that the biggest amount of work is already done and that you can make big amounts of money by delivering a partially or entirely open source phone.
There already is RISC-V, there already is AOSP and it's numerous forks. Huawei got the money, they can differentiate themselves by doing something as bold and disruptive as putting out a phone with a degoogled android and RISC-V based CPU.
Sometimes companies need to do something bold, instead of playing safe. You are the retard if you don't understand this. But sadly Huawei is probably filled with people like you, who stomp innovation because it's not the standard way of doing things. Yikes.

'Insurmountable obstacle'

Huawei told reporters on Tuesday that its “plan B” for software would be to develop its own operating system, something it has already been working on for some time. However, it will be significantly more difficult for the firm to source home-grown components of sufficient quality.

Huawei currently sources some of its chips from HiSilicon, which it owns. However, while produced in China, HiSilicon’s chips are built using underlying technology created by ARM.

While HiSilicon and Huawei are free to carry on using and manufacturing existing chips, the ban would mean the company could no longer turn to ARM for assistance in developing components for devices in future.

HiSilicon's upcoming processor, Kirin 985, is due be used in Huawei devices later this year. According to a source at ARM, it is not expected to be affected by the ban. However, the next iteration of the chip has not yet been completed - and is likely to need to be rebuilt from scratch, the source said.

The relationship between ARM and Huawei engineers is tight - earlier this month Huawei announced its intention to build a research centre only 15 minutes from ARM’s headquarters in Cambridge, UK.

"ARM is the foundation of Huawei’s smartphone chip designs, so this is an insurmountable obstacle for Huawei,” said Geoff Blaber, from CCS Insight.

"That said, with an abundance of companies in Huawei’s supply chain already having taken action to comply with the US order, Huawei’s ability to operate was already severely affected.”

What is not yet clear is whether ARM is acting on its own interpretation of the US rules, or whether it has been advised by the Commerce Department.

"If that interpretation is correct, that’s going to affect every semiconductor company in the world,” remarked analyst Lee Ratliff, from IHS Markit.

"They’re not going to be able to easily replace these parts with new, in-house designs - the semiconductor industry in China is nascent.”

So this is free market capitalism?

>Chinese brand produces top products for lower prices
>accuse them of some shit
>take away their loicenses
>sell google+apple phones with high markup again

RISC-V is also US technology and developed in the US

Huawei is fucked period

meh, huawei doesn't sell any phones in the US so it won't make much of a difference.. also theres still companies like xiaomi and oneplus

If they actually did this the phone would turn out to be an absolute piece of shit

>chinks
>open source
every fucking time

anandtech.com/show/14373/report-arm-suspends-business-with-huawei

>Meanwhile Arm, for its part, is headquartered in the UK and not the US. However as a multi-national company, Arm develops its technology around the world, including its major design centers in San Jose and Austin. As a result, according to the report, Arm has deemed that its designs contain “US origin technology”, and as a result make it subject to the US technology blacklist.

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HUAWEI IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

you are so fucking delusional

BASED DING-DONG-DIDDLY-BONGS AND THEIR JAP OVERLORDS, BIG BUCKS SOFTBANK

>the accusation without evidence of spying is all it takes to sink a company
>although all prism involved companies survive unscathed

wat

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Nice European growth strategy you've got there, would be a shame if something happened to it.

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Why are you surprised? Did you honestly think the "America is the most powerful country on Earth" thing was just a meme?

>without evidence
Lol

every country steals IP while developing. China is going to innovate on a huge scale if it continues its current trajectory

There is no free market (or anything free) in the commie shithole of chinkland. So it's fair enough. Obviously can't wait for these yellow ass subhumans to starve or nuke themselves out of the existence. God fucking bless based USA, the only country that realizes who's the true enemy - not some Jews or ruskies, no. The true enemy of the whole civilized world are the fucking chinks only followed by sandniggers.

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post sources to the evidences

Where is it? So far anyone bothered trying to find it has said it isnt there.

I'm not surprised at america being powerful more so surprised at no one else questioning this or doing anything to prism related companies like Apple.

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They're all spying. It's blatantly obvious in the software. I just wish Google and Apple got the same treatment
Stop the bullshit

>China is going to innovate on a huge scale if it continues its current trajectory
lol.

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>The true enemy of the whole civilized world are the fucking chinks only followed by sandniggers.
I wonder who this could be.

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>uncreative
Ya fuck!

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>unregulated property industry cutting corners on escalators = tech development
amazing. please share some more of your insight

Spotted the jew.

I dont doubt they spy to a degree but unlike with prism companies we dont have actual proof on huawei. Theyre getting worst treatment for an accusation.

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So you don't expect corner cutting and lack of accountability in tech even though it exists in property of all places? Communism sucks and always fails

Nice unsubstantiated claim.

literally every single chinamen tries to cut corners on everything as much as possible. that is not hyperbole

just about every fucking company on earth cuts corners and avoids accountability. have you never worked in your life? ours laws and regulations are superior to China's which is the only thing stopping local corps fucking you

>every country steals IP while developing

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Seethe more, chinkfaggots, while you still can. Thankfully all of the software that you stole will soon become obsolete to the point of being unusable, and the Internet will become a much better place without all your DDoS'ers, spammers, cheaters and fraudsters.

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>doesn't know the history of western countries

go on, educate us on how, say, the industrial revolution was stolen from somebody who did it first

>just about every fucking company on earth cuts corners and avoids accountability
Yeah but we have free markets and options. Not state sponsored pseudo-private orgs

theguardian.com/technology/2019/jan/29/huawei-criminal-indictments-us-china

Don't get arrested for reading the truth Zhang.

>obvious kike insulting anyone for being a "chink"

Lmao. I'd take thousands of "chinks" over a single jew.

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No, but this is bad globally for them.
You murricans really do think that the world ends at your borders dont you?

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not true, many companies now understand the value of paying a premium for long term sustainability. case and point, the outsourcing meme is increasingly dead now its common knowledge moving your dev team to hyderabad turns your product into an unmaintainable, defective piece of shit that costs a huge amount of money to keep developing, usually resulting a huge contractor based redo to bring it back to a sane level of quality. all of which costs more money than just keeping everything local ever would have

not to mention, chinamen do not care about other beings. they dont care about putting asbestos into roofing insulation, fatal defects into heavy machinery, lead into medical equipment etc. etc.

There is no proof in there it is literally a list of allegations. Furthermore I dont give two fucks about muh Iran even if that were true considering how fags trade with Israel, saudi Arabia and more just fine.

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if what you're saying is true then that gives me hope, but that's certainly not the case here in aus. our government is overtly corrupt (both from chinese and american influence) and our companies are rotten to the core

chinee phones beat the notch with sliders and pop up cameras, they have the fastest chargiing speeds, best hardware, first in many fields like UFS 3.0 storage, just lol if you think they're not innovating

>ask for proofs
>only posts news articles about what the US claims it happened, but proofs are never been shown
Good thing by 2050 America will be 50% mexican

I'd take nothing you dumb chong. Spay your whore mother and kys.

>all stolen tech
Woah

stolen from where?

So, this confirms the EU is really the lapdog of the USA?

I mean, Infineon and ARMs aren't US companies after all.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gotta earn these social credit points, so Chong will use at least some lube when fucking you with his little dick.

>best hardware
>innovating
>chinks
>MediaTek
LOL.

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>a few companies are doing it so its a fact
the vast majority of companies dont care if cost cutting affects the product and will never care even when people quit buying the product, the past is proof of this.

>not some Jews
You almost had me there, Moshe. Do a swan dive into a wood chipper.

>So, this confirms the EU is really the lapdog of the USA?
lol when was this in doubt

its true, i used to live in perth and worked for a construction company. its like the fucking Wire, politicians bought and paid for by the chinks, whilst other groups are actively trying to route them out (WestPac has a division purely for verifying whether large investments are actually being made by chinese shell companies). that asbestos in the insulation example is actually from perth, new CHILDRENS HOSPITAL decided to outsource one component to china, and it came back full of toxins

clive palmer, for all his faults, is one of the few calling it out

I'm not a chink. Keep coping juden. No one likes you. Soon not even your slave state America will save you.

See above

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and those ones will die due to their apathy. companies operating on a quality engineering mindset have wider margins than those who dont

more money => higher chance of ongoing success => higher chance of sustained existence

> So, this confirms the EU is really the lapdog of the USA?
Is this breaking news for you, Xiu? Everyone with so-called freedom of press knew that, you should try it sometime.

Europoos with French and Germs always claim that the EU is stronk, and independent and that all the bureaucracy shit that burden the average citizen is to make the EU stronk against USA, Russia and China.

But all I see is how weak the EU. It's the by far most weakest construct.

Good lord. No wonder you're barely above peasant status Zhang.

you can literally google us france industrial espionage and watch as your whole shilling tactic crumbles down
hell usa even stole concordes design and somehow made an even shittier one

You can't verify it because you have to breach your countries firewall and get put on a list of possible political dissidents and sent to a forced labor camp to educate you in how great the Communist party is.

> China's gas station is on the list
ahahahahhahha

I came

China will lead the revolution in privacy-respecting software and hardware.

America is in its last death throes and none of those desperate acts will change fate.

> avatar or signature use

America learned the 2nd amendment from Chinese culture, after all don't ever forget who invented gun powder.

you want to cry about it?

Maybe shit and cum?

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chinks will be brought to their knees:

Top Chinese CCTV manufacturers Hikvision & Dahua named as next US blacklist targets

Why would UK based care about American bans, how is that even a legitimate reason. I still don't get why this one company is being targeted, trump bullshit yeah, but if it was a problem with china then everything involved with china would be targets. It makes me think someone like apple is using political people to fuck the competition.

>China will lead the revolution in privacy-respecting software and hardware.
>America is in its last death throes and none of those desperate acts will change fate.

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they use american tech thats why... soon china will be broken in to many states lol free Tibet!

US software import licenses have explicitly clauses banning export to certain states, places like iran and NK. this means you cant do business with US companies if you are also doing business with iranian companies for example. trump has basically added huawei to this list of banned entities. these clauses stretch across networks as well. so if UK company A does business with iran and french company B does business with the US, company B will avoid doing business with company A

implying aosp will not be blocked, with a munition export, implying the design, and the instruction set will not also be blocked by munition export.

They fucked user, those are American projects.

in order to enter markets you are forced to give your IP, Apple stole for huawei for Qualcomm modem alternative.

Because they have the freedom to do so if they wish

brits are american biches anyway, they gotta do what their massa say heehee

Holy fuck. If they can get ARM to do this then entire Chinese mobile sector could be annihilated overnight at any moment.
The CANZUK still have a soft power advantage clearly.

So they could do business but they would lose any american business because politicians.

#ARM on Huawei (source: Reuters): "ARM is complying with all of the latest regulations set forth by the US government. No further comment at this time."

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NOOOO WONT SOMEONE THINK OF THE POOR CHINESE?? THEY ALWAYS CARED FOR US, THIS ISNT FAIR

>then entire Chinese mobile sector could be annihilated overnight at any moment
yes and the US chip sector

they will be replaced with Vietnamese aka vinniggers, and Laotians, or lotions.

the USA is currently leading the anglosphere, yes

yep. and not only business with americans, but also business with people doing business with americans. for example, ARM sells chips to thales. thales puts those chips into missiles under contract for raytheon. if ARM tries to sell chips (even different chips which have nothing to do with the missile ones), raytheon would lean on thales and thales would lean on ARM not to

smaller companies could potentially get away with 'playing both sides' but ARM is way too big for that

Europe and Japan have done nothing in regards of tech in the last two decades.

>with a munition export

I hope so. If america start putting ITAR on more shit, maybe someone who isn't a pedo gun nut can actually try and legally challenge that unconstitutional garbage.

>sabotaging other countries/businesses when they're overtaking you
IT'S THE AMERICAN WAAAAY

>putting out a phone with a degoogled android
And 5 people will buy it.

>Europe and Japan have done nothing in regards of tech in the last two decades.
How can you say that with a straight face when this thread is literally about UK based ARM.

>muh free markets
>competition breeds innovation
Any competition is literally banned