My older brother told me that in 2001, DVDs and VHS tapes were neck-and-neck in popularity. Is that true...

My older brother told me that in 2001, DVDs and VHS tapes were neck-and-neck in popularity. Is that true? 2001 seems a bit late for VHS tapes to still be popular.

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Hes right. I was watching vhs up until 2004 or so. Maybe later.

Only because of the cost of DVD players at the time. Once normies got onboard and prices started coming down it was ogre.

It’s all about WHERE user.

Just like Blu-ray, DVD and before that, CD cost more than tapes
>Because fuck you, that's why

In Britbongistan this is correct.

DVD players were hella expensive at first, the PS2 was the first affordable one and the first DVD player for a lot of households.

By 2001 DVDs were spreading, but everyone still had VCRs. Tapes hung on for some time - even as DVD players got more widespread, VHS was the only real way to record live TV. This was before TiVo was readily available, and Sky only launched Sky+ recording set top boxes that year.

VHS tapes were very much a thing in 2001, but the writing was on the wall in a clear font with good kerning

DVD players were like $400 in 2001 and virtually everybody had a VHS player, which had been around since the late 70s, so it wasn't until like 2005 or so when DVD became more affordable that they began to dominate the market and manufacturers finally stopped producing VHS in 2008.

Were you not around in 2001.

He's right. I got my first DVD player and first DVD film (Universal Soldier) around 2001, it came in a clear plastic case, the likes of which I have never seen since then, probably because DVD cases got standardized to that ugly, flimsy, black plastic.

Despite that I still regularly watched VHS tapes way into 2004 or later.

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>PEOPLE THAT DON'T REMEMBER 2001 ARE BROWSING Jow Forums RIGHT NOW
Oh lawd

You're probably younger than me, which makes trying to play a "muh kids" card even more retarded. If he doesn't "remember" 2001, he could be as old as 23. Not only that, his thread was at least interesting enough to spark discussion. Your post was useless tripe; a vain attempt to "fit in with chan culture". Kill yourself.

Video CD was also popular at the same time in poor countries.

Same quality as VHS but significant cheaper.

Video CD (abbreviated as VCD, and also known as Compact Disc Digital Video) is a home video format and the first format for distributing films on standard 120 mm (4.7 in) optical discs. The format was widely adopted in Southeast Asia and superseded the VHS and Betamax systems in the region until DVD finally became affordable in the region in the late 2000s.


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>seething 23 year old detected
Imagine being this assblasted.

I'm 31 btw, and have posted on Jow Forums since 2006 on and off. I'm not interested to fit in with the "culture" because the current Jow Forums "culture" and its memes (or lack of thereof) are shit. In fact I refuse to be associated with this shitpile of a site as any reasonable person should.

Anyway, it's amazing how a one line post could make you so assblasted when in fact it was a self-reflecting thought of how old I am rather than an attempt to put down the OP.

Anyway kys snowflake.

>Ao-chan can't study
Based user

Pretty much. DVDs in 2001 were hella expensive.

>some faggot who doesn't belong here because he's too old defending some faggot who doesn't belong here because he's too young
Why didn't your life pan out, stupid old man? :^)

It was really the DVD player cost. That shit was EXPENSIVE.

The market seemed willing to fork over the premium for DVDs themselves, although by today's standards they really weren't THAT expensive.

My first DVD, as was a shit ton of other's, was the Matrix, and it was cheaper than a new release of bluray today.

First and really still only dvd player I have are computer ones. Don't have bluray. I got my first a pioneer one that was a feed instead of a tray back in like 2001 around there because the disc I rented to test the thing was Nutty Prof 2. The first I actually bought was the Terminator 2 two disc special edition box. I still have it.

Also, just found a picture of it, I actually still have this too somewhere. Good times.

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Anons have already brought up the price of DVD players, but there is alse the aspect of recording. Recording stuff from TV onto DVDs just isn't practical (and also even more expensive), and HDDs were small and expensive.

VHS was better than DVD.
Fuck unskippable intros and logos.
Fuck ugly menus.
Fuck having to handle them delicately so they didn't scratch.
And especially fuck those ugly plastic cases.

hmm, how much data could you store on a cassette?

you do know that everyone here is anonymous, right? you don't have to pretend that you're someone you're not. nobody will know what you said.

That'd be massively dependent on the length of the tape, but given you can fit C64 games onto tape no problem, I'd guess it was a decent enough size when cassettes were relevant, but pretty pitiful by modern standards.
All of this thankfully became a non issue once ways of dumping and separating the movie and disc data onto PCs became a trivial thing.
Back then though yea it fuckin' sucked.

I'm only 19 and I remember VHS OP. How fucking old are you?

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In Brazil, VHS was a thing until 2006, at least for us poorfags. Who owned ps2 in that period were kings.
>Gee João! How come Sony let's you play DVDs AND video games?

yep, a little less than a floppy based on wikipedia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassette_tape#Data_recording
yep, my dad worked abroad at the time and got me a ps2 slim. it was fun playing that shit with my friends and stuff. also, i got it chipped and could torrent vidya.

You guys still love Sega Genesis though and that isn't a bad thing?

Only the truest of boomers here care about Sega Genesis nowadays.

t. Still buttblasted 23 yo zoomer that cab't remember fucking VHS

I have the fellowship of the rings on VHS cause we didn't have a DVD player at the time.

But didn't you have a VCD player?

Nope, I did replace the VHS player with a DVD/VHS combo player though.

>there are people that were born later than you
HOLY FUCK THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING

1998 was the last time i watched a VHS

You'll be in shock when you are still here 12 years later and people posting can't remember what a USB thumb drive is.

Growing old sucks. The years really sneak past behind you without you even noticing. And I'm only in my 30s. Can't imagine how I'll feel when I hit my 60s.

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yea, that was about the case
dvds were a fairly expensive option in 2001
my parents didn't have a dvd player until 2006 (i had one in 2004, only because it was a ps2 which could play dvd's)
before then? vhs.

Same, but by the time all 3 were released and the extended edition box set came out, I had bought a DVD player by then.

i'm pretty sure the young people here use flash drives more than i do
i stopped using flash drives ages ago, soon after getting a home network hub
biggest flash drive i have is 512M, and i hear people talking about 64G, 128G, etc drive, don't you guys have a LAN? shit.

he's right. Everybody had a vhs player but not everyone had adopted the new DVD tech. Even less reason since the jump in quality was not as apparent on common TV sets back then

>the jump in quality was not as apparent on common TV sets back then
i think you are starting to forget how bad vhs quality was, user.
even on basic crt tv's with composite video, the difference between vhs and dvd is night and day

But I betcha that in 12 years you'll have 17 year olds posting that have never even seen one, fren.

I don't know about that. I have The Phantom Menace in a 2001 VHS and it looks great. It does say digitally remastered or whatever.

hifi-writer.com/he/vhstobd/index.htm

VHS < DVD < Bluray

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DVDs were expensive still and not everyone had big TVs that truly benefited from the increased image quality of DVD.

My first DVD was a Samsung VHS/DVD combo units my parents bought for Christmas 2003.

I'm not saying quality hasn't improved. I'm saying it was a smoother transition than you are implying. Late VHS were superior to earlier VHS in quality.

independence day was 1996, not exactly an OLD VHS release by any means.

VHS is not about the quality, it's about the feeling.
*crack*

You can get that feeling with LaserDisc and not have the picture look like complete ass as well.

Yeah, fuck off underage.

VHS only died in 2006.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_in_home_video
>February
>Retail chain Walmart in the USA stops selling VHS tapes after the Christmas and holiday season.
>March
>March 14 - The film A History of Violence becomes the last major Hollywood film released to VHS. After this point, all VHS releases are either rental-only, available only as screeners or through special programs (such as the Disney Movie Club), or are from indie companies.

In Australia, DVD passed VHS in 2002 (by net revenue, wholesale)
aheda.com.au/statistics_vhs
>2001 $346,881,557
>2002 $323,533,132
>2003 $180,624,744
aheda.com.au/statistics_dvd
>2001 $243,175,371
>2002 $502,725,123
>2003 $798,027,407

1. You are comparing still images rather than moving. VHS still images have always looked like shit.

2. I'm talking about early 2000s VHS which were digitally remastered and so on.

3. Maybe TV quality was also a factor, as the other user mentioned.

Point is, my family got a DVD player in 2005 and I don't remember being blown away by the quality. Nobody I knew at the time was blown away. It was a bit better. Not having to rewind was nice.

Flat screen HD TVs represented much more of a revolution in peoples' homes in terms of quality than the VHS/DVD transition.

Also in this other pic you can see the image quality in DVD (middle) wasn't that big of an improvement

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>VHS only died in 2006.
It didn't die until 2016 when final production of VHS hardware happened.

I remember back in the 90s a VHS player was like $600.

DVD plaayers started around 250 and people went nuts on disks filling their wholw house with them.

Now we use neither

Times have changed

1/10

Technologically amish

Laserdisc < all other home formats.

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VHS was very popular even in 2001. It wasn't until few years into PS2, that DVD became popular. I'd say by 2005, DVD was winning.

People born in 2001 would be 18-19 today.

Flash drives are cheap($10 can get you 32G). I have 4-5 lying around from 4G -> 64G.

Based. I remember watching Terminator 2 on laser disc with a full surround sound system in the late 90s. Blew me away at the time.

>composite artifacts encoded into video stream
it was the least worst for a while there

Yep. I got my first DVD player in 2001. People kept VCRs for a long time after because DVD burners were expensive as fuck and you could rig up two VCRs in series to bootleg movies you rented from Blockbuster.

>Video CD
Oh god that abomination. I hated that shit so much because release groups would bitrate starve their releases to get them to 700MB so they'd fit on a VCD. Or they'd split them into two files. That shit went on way too long, well after DVDs were affordable.

based millennial

damn, $10 can get you 32G now?
what do you use them for?
my first flash drive was 64M and cost me $80, and i used it as if it were 50 floppy disks, moving data around any machines, mine or others
but now i use my LAN for that, and if i really need to bring a large amount of data somewhere, i'll use my 500GB usb 2.5" hdd

The PlayStation 2 launched in 2000 for $300 and one of the selling points for it was "it's no more expensive than a regular DVD player, but it can also play games!" DVDs didn't become the norm until like 2005 or so, and even then VHS tapee still were around. Sony went on to try to pull a similar trick with the PS3 and Blu-Ray.

You should tell your brother to stop crying when he masturbates to you.

9/11 was almost 18 years ago, breh
feeling old yet?

DVD recorder always were too expensive until cheap DVR solutions took off so VCR filled the gap for recording

yeah it's true.
what reason does your brother, or all these people have to lie to you?
i don't care if you believe what i say. fuck this thread, actually

i need to replace my vcr because it is a bastard that eats tapes, but given that new ones aren't being made I have no idea what to buy, amazon only sells overpriced dvd+vcr combos and ebay is just full of people selling their old broken pieces of shit. where do I go to get a good vcr?

i just bought my favorite anime on vhs and i want to enjoy it the way i did when i was recording it off of toonami onto vhs when i was a kid. pic related

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just get some 90's vcr
they stopped caring after that point, so it's not like anything newer will be any better

Thrift stores are usually full of them. Or check craigslist.

I still remember VHS blockbusters until around 2007. UK btw.

nooooooooooooooooooooo

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buying dvds was cost effective for like two years

They died pretty late here, probably because we're poor fags

Damn I forgot about the based parking lot chinks and their 99p pirated dvds with just that one little sticker of the movie on the front.

last vhs I bought was collateral (tom cruise) in 2004

My grandma still buys those from African immigrants in the subway. (Buenos Aires)
She always has new releases to watch it's pretty neat actually.

I just torrent shit or netflix. But sometimes she is ahead of the curve with new releases I hadn't even heard about.

Damn you can tell apart the African immigrants from yourselves?

My dad didnt buy his first DVD until 2003. He was still buying VHS box sets up until then

2009 called, they want their old meymeys back user

there's a south park episode from... 2004 I guess? where everyone still uses vhs except for one rich kid with a dvd player, who genuinely don't realizes he's the only one with a modern dvd player and alienates himself
that's a good description of reality then I guess.

>biggest flash drive i have is 512M, and i hear people talking about 64G, 128G, etc drive, don't you guys have a LAN? shit.
Copying files to a pendrive is way faster than setting up a network connection.
It baffles me there's still no standard way to send files over lan between phones and pc. By standard I mean "everyone uses it" sure there are many existing solutions.
Xiaomi phones have a builtin ftp server in file explorer, that's useful because it doesn't require installation of anything on the pc.

i don't care what everyone else uses, they probably use "someone else's computer" (google drive, icloud, whatever), which i'm not interested in for various reasons, including technical (no offline sync, i have little upload bandwidth even on my home connection, it's not practical even if i didn't care about giving someone else my data)
i have an ftp server on my phone for one-off stuff, and syncthing for syncing things (password db's, porn, camera photos, etc)
this goes for my laptop as well, though i use sshfs instead of ftp

>Copying files to a pendrive is way faster than setting up a network connection.
also this is questionable, i don't know how fast modern usb drives are, but i doubt they can touch my basic gigabit LAN, or even wifi

250MB/s = 2000Mbps and that's without overhead.
Realistically you can maybe get half of that on ac wifi. So if you count time to copy first to pendrive and then from it you get similar bandwidth as an ideal connection, but when you add time to set up the connection pendrive almost always wins

>but i doubt they can touch my basic gigabit LAN
You'd be wrong.

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Samurai Champloo From 2004~2005 was the last tv anime I recorded on VHS. After that tv lost interest and everything became PC and internet.

VHS was probably more popular than DVD back then. Just cause everyone had VHS (think video stores) and DVD was expensive, until Sony Playstation launched with a DVD player and even still took like 3-5 years for DVD to overtake VHS.

>i don't know how fast modern usb drives are
Honestly, depends what kind of files you're dealing with.

Transferring ISOs and MKVs, a modern fast USB drive will exceed 1gbps easily.

With smaller files however it will get choked up fairly quickly, and LAN will probably be faster.

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In Australia, DVD was still incredibly fringe and expensive in 2001.
Even by 2004, when I got my first player, I still paid upwards of $200 for one of the lowest end models.
While I HAD DVD's, VHS where still cheaper and more common probably up until 2006 or so, at which point they vanished near overnight.
2001 was fucking early days for DVD, VHS was still strong in 2004, and still around for a few years after that.

>probably up until 2006 or so, at which point they vanished near overnight.

2006 was when the US stopped VHS releases, so Australia probably quickly followed.

VHS really only existed in japan after that.

Shrek came out in 2001 and I still have my Shrek VHS, so yes

But that's not right, I was born way earlier and I'm only...
Oh.
Oh no.
NO

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Same here user

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Where I live, DVD took off in '04, but VHS tapes were still around until '07-'08.

t. 18 yo Ukrainian