Okay, this is epic. Imagine a linux distro that does not break

okay, this is epic. Imagine a linux distro that does not break.

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mint

sudo rm -rf /bin/* /usr/bin/*
Silverblue survives this, what happens to Mint?

ok then if we're gonna play like this..

>i fucking smash the computer with a hammer
what happens to silverblue?

If you know how and where to type this you most likely know what it does. Any other cool features?

silverblue is peak userfriendly linux. It uses flatpak as a main package manager, and has some great tools to get shit to work if its not available on flatpak. Thus, it is basically resistant to dependency hell, and it also has a comfy snapshot manager.

>flatpak
How's the software availability? I could never find anything I wanted when looking up flatpaks.

flatpak is for desktop/gtk apps. theres a serperate tool for cli apps, and package layering for drivers and lowlevel shit

>has to restart everytime you install something
Why not just windows?

>tries to counter teasingly ridiculous argument with absolutely retarded example
>can't even make his distro seem like the one with the advantage
As you gained by the rm example, most of the root file system is immutable, which means it cannot ever be modified while the system is running. The idea is to have /usr be exclusively controlled by the package manager (rpm-ostree). It also tracks which files each package installs seperately, so removing a package can never leave any garbage behind. Package operations and system upgrades get applied after a reboot (soon we'll also have stable live swaps, currently experimental). This ensures larger upgrades such as distro release bumps cannot break your system due to tons of library hotswaps in the middle of the upgrade process. Additionally, there is a commit-based system similar to git. Should an update make the system unbootable for whatever reason, you simply rollback in the bootloader. Since this package model is not very flexible, which is crucial for people like developers, Silverblue provides the Fedora Toolbox, an unprivileged pet container where you can use dnf to install packages like in normal Fedora. For graphical applications, you have Flatpak, the Fedora Project even runs their own Flatpak repository for it, though Flathub still has way more stuff.

fuck off shill

makes nix/guixtards cry and seethe.
simply epic

>yes ouy, why have a secure anti/nsa system if you can just use windows

Got any proof of that? Didn’t think so.

>has to restart everytime you install something.
Objectively false. You are nkt even supposed to install lots of shit on rpm-ostree. It's just the base system. Flatpaks and toolboxes don't require restarts.

>Omg! Restore points!
Something Windows has been doing for 20 years. Freetards act like they came up with it. I bet its only about half as reliable just like everything else in Linux.

stockholm syndrome, everyone

holy shit the level of delusion
restore points is one of the most unreliable piece of shit feature in an already unreliable base OS
it might not break things imediatelly but I've seem reports of permanent registry and filesystem damage
linux has around 20 different ways to achieve that in a more consistent way since the 90's

>t. wintard that doesn't know what even silverblue is or does
>Windows has been doing for 20 years
Oh so Windows managed its system in a git-like environment while managing desktop software in isolated directories that make dependency hell impossible? Yeah didn't think so

nix/guix are better tho

If it survives that, that can only mean that it is restricting what you, the user, can do.

itt: winshill and soon-to-arrive ishill congregation

Is this for brainlets who can't into NixOS or GuixSD? What new things does Silverblue bring to the table that wasn't already perfectly solved by them?

have sex

The only Linux distro that doesn't break is one that doesn't offer updates.

I use SilverBlue. Here is a useful tip. Half the Gnome applications in the Fedora and Flathub repository are outdated or broken. If you encounter this, install them from the Gnome Nightly repository.

.. a debian clone?

>Is this for brainlets who can't into NixOS or GuixSD?
yes
>What new things does Silverblue bring to the table that wasn't already perfectly solved by them?
nothing
t. fedora user since fedora was still called fedora core, now a nixos user

My Debian server broke from a bad update. I'm not falling for the "Debian is stable" meme again.

Imagine being such a brainlet that you use Nix or Guix instead of Bedrock or LFS.

>t. brainlet who literally doesn't understand what nix/guix is about

>he fell for the Debian update meme

Can I install a different DE into silverblue yet? I fucking hate gnome.

Can you change the init in those distros?

>tl;dr
tl;dr
have sex

it just means that it puts shit in a different place. every linux distro survives
del "C:\Program Files\*.*"

Nix/Guix are package managers, where NixOS and GuixSD are distros built on top of them.

Then where the fuck does it put binaries?

So would you agree that those distros are for brainlets?

Literally an OS that solves a fictional problem with a terrible solution

Give me the QRD on Silverblue. What is it? What problems does it solve?

Not being an obscure meme, really.

I didn't read any of the previous posts... I just came to say that OP is a faggot and linux noob because he is breaking his OS all the time

Any distro with properly configured mandatory access control would survive

SilverBlue is an experimental version of Fedora Workstation. It has several goals: stop Linux distros from breaking on updates, Chrome OS tier security, and make containers first class (Flatpak, Docker, Podman, maybe AppImages, but not Snaps). If you would like to hear more, press 1.

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idk how silverblue works.
on nixos binaries are symlinked in /run/current-system/sw/bin and all the actual files are in the respective packages directory under /nix/store

Silverblue has /usr/ read-only which is a good thing btw

*alias rm='rm -I' 's your path*

this - been running the same frankendeb for years now and the only break I've ever had is to eat, sleep, fuck or shit

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SilverBlue uses OSTree which protects and version controls the filesystem. It's like NixOS and GuixSD but is brainlet friendly.

>stop Linux distros from breaking on updates
This is achieved by making most of the filesystem immutable unless patches are declaratively applied through rpm-ostree, by enabling the use of automated testing, by offering rollbacks from the bootloader (similar to SUSE but SUSE breaks really often on updates and relies on BTRFS which is unstable and risky (read the bug tracker, permanent data loss happens even in a stable configuration)), and some other ways I can't remember because it's 3 in the morning.

>Chrome OS tier security
By using sandboxed containers, applications have a difficult time attacking the system unless you granted a bunch of shit permissions. The desktop applications are mostly in Flatpak which has braindead simple to understand permissions for each piece of software. Flatpaks have stronger sandboxing than even the Chrome browser (Chrome browser uses setuid).

>make containers first class
The ultimate goal of OSTree is to simplify the critical system components so much that 99% of it is in containers. Containers offer safe updates, rollbacks, and better security models. Red Hat is working on automatic conversion of RPMs to Flatpaks (for desktop applications) and then will work on applying that to the system programs.

Hopefully that covers the most important parts. Consider trying SilverBlue in a VM for fun and read the docs (the command line tools run perfectly but the GUI tools are buggy).

Sounds like a pain in the ass

no such thing

wow, I could put that one on a shared server where everyone is root (this is a big co btw, think fortune 50) and no one would find out, not even what is happening, let alone who is responsible for it

This is actually a fair argument

>Half the Gnome applications in the Fedora and Flathub repository are outdated or broken.
Surely this is an exaggeration.

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fedora -> systemd -> nothanks

Sounds complicated

>Imagine being such a brainlet that you use Nix or Guix instead of Bedrock or LFS.
bedrock attempts to solve the 'stable base, recent packages' problem and I'm not going to comment on how well it does that but nix on another distro and nixos itself try to address and solve completely different problems like reproducible builds, functional package management, declarative and reproducible system configuration, etc, they're completely different distros for different purposes

>can't change init, must be for brainlets
the nature of nixos is that it has to integrate with the init system and service manager and other system components otherwise it can't fulfil its purpose of declarative system configuration, I know systemd is an instant writeoff for some people and I'm not trying to shill nixos but the nature of the beast is that replacing systemd on nixos is non-trivial and breaks a lot of stuff where other distros aren't nearly as reliant on their init

It literally mitigates idiots "accidentally" deleting shit.

But if everyone in your company has root access I don't think that's you biggest problem..

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I'm referring to Fedora's flatpak repository FYI and I'm only exaggerating a little. I had to install the developer versions of Gnome Boxes, Evince, and Epiphany for them to work as I expected.

it already exists its called MacOS

Fucking retards man

I imagined. Debian stable.

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Clear Linux is better than this shit.

Nothing if you're using a rugged laptop

See, this is the type of thing that pisses me off as a Linux user. Why would you implement this great new feature and half-ass it? "Here's our cutting edge project guys,but please forgive us for the outdated and missing software."

>Imagine a linux distro that does not break.
Debian Stable. It already has the backports repo, Flatpak and Snappy available so there is no point to use anything else.
>muh dependency hell
Doesn't exist with the stable and backports repos.

Does Silverblue even have a firewall as comfy as GUFW?

>Does Silverblue even have a firewall as comfy as GUFW?
Pretty sure any distro can use that, my man.

It comes with firewalld

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Everywhere else have one place for everything

android survives this

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ew. how much are you getting to promote this trash?

>shilling free software
What did he mean by this.