Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >i7 8700/K OR 9700k - Extreme solution for absolute max FPS >R7 2700/X - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value >GTX 1660 - standard >RTX 2060 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 1440p >RTX 2060 - standard >RTX 2080 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 - standard >RTX 2080Ti - better fit for 4K but expensive
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's 144Hz with adaptive sync >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
>ATTENTION: Ryzen 3000 series CPUs (and possibly Navi GPUs) will be announced in a few hours at Computex.
Fake news
Christopher Lopez
>chill nice of you to gimp your performance
Grayson Johnson
You can't find any of those on eBay or whatever the EU uses?
I have a reference sapphire as well and yeah, you can limit it, but if you were to be buying one for the first time I would just go for the aftermarket cooler so you can get more performance.
3000 not being announced until June 10th @ E3, launch is 7/7 with pre-orders opening on 7/1.
Alexander Walker
Still within freesync range. No point in getting frames I won't notice.
Isaac Allen
Radeon chill is terrrible for consistent frame rate. There is a huge difference between using something like RRTS server to cap your framerate and it delivers a very good performance. Vs radeon chill which makes the frame pacing fucking shit and gimps total performance. Please lads, power savings are not worth it.
I'll be buying a R5 2600 in the near future but I don't know anything that is going on. Do I wait until the new stuff launches for a discount? If I do, when is the best time to buy it? Hold my hand through it /pcbg/
Parker Fisher
Rivatuner: GPU doesn't throttle down unless game suddenly has nothing to put onscreen Chill: GPU randomly throttles around, but without enough of a margin to avoid choking once there is slightly more polygons onscreen.
There is essentially no real solution. Then again, a lot of games still have load freezes.
Ryder Martinez
>Jow Forums tells me to get a 2600 >giveaway my good 4790k >my 100 fps in Yakuza Kiwami 2 is now 75 >it’s a heavily threaded game too
Fuck you guys, last time I ever listen to Jow Forums
Owen Moore
Always do the opposite of whatever someone here tells you to do.
Joshua Powell
>100 fps in Yakuza Kiwami 2 bullshit even 9900k is terrible in that badly optimized jap shit port.
Joseph Cox
I would imagine frames are pretty bad when your motherboard is melting
Hunter Green
Welp my old ass motherboard didnt work with my DDR4 and M.2 SSD, any recommendations for a new one? got an i5 core.
James Gomez
is ASUS PRIME Z370-P II - ATX / Z370 any good?
Zachary Jones
>Always do the opposite of whatever someone here tells you to do. Yeah people keep telling me to Kms yet thanks to doing the opposite of their advice im living quite a happy and fulfilled life.
>Should I wait for Ryzen 3000's? No. Shoot yourself in the foot by all means.
Michael White
intel core i5-2500k cpu 3.30GHz 3.30GHz
Jackson Lewis
The 9900k/9700k are doubling the FPS of the 2700x you stupid drones. So much for AMD’s console to PC meme
Austin Morgan
You should wait until 7/7 after that 2600 prices will dip halfway
Juan Williams
Gaming build. Budget is pretty low but I want to be able to run whatever I want at a decent frame rate in 1080P. Couldn't figure out how to build past this point and would like to find ways to make it cheaper.
i really hope zen 2 will be as good as the 9900k or ill kill myself
Luis Mitchell
keep a rope on standby then
Levi Moore
>570 Bad buy. Get something better second hand.
Carter Lopez
wait for zen2 you silly man. consider 1060 6GB instead of 570
John Mitchell
>wait for zen2 you silly man. consider 1060 6GB instead of 570 Both three year old GPUs that you really shouldn't be buying new.
Colton Brown
I am planning on getting MSI B450 Gaming Plus + Ryzen 2700X.
The B450 has 6 * SATA 3 ports.
Will there be some kind of a bottleneck if I attach 6 HDDs to it. Will the HDDs be able to run at full IOPS speed ?
Ayden Gomez
high clocks don't matter single core performance doesn't matter avx512 doesn't matter chipset temperature doesn't matter stability doesn't matter actual transistor scale doesn't matter latencies don't matter emulator acceleration (HAXM) doesn't matter hardware lock ellision/transactional synchronization extensions don't matter rapid storage technology doesn't matter having a vcore lower than 1.4V doesn't matter adobe products don't matter gcc compilation (no segfaults) doesn't matter
Carter Jenkins
Reposting because I need help. Had this build planned at first pcpartpicker.com/list/s3BzJ8 but I changed it on your suggestions to this one pcpartpicker.com/list/QFDRr6 Which one should I go for? I might be able to swap the 590 for a 1660Ti in the second build. I also need tips for picking a motherboard, I have no idea what to look for other than compatibility and number of sockets.
Kevin Clark
You got memed by the AMD shill, probably. i7 4700K to R5 2600 is a pointless sidegrade for gaming. I'm this OP, and I always recommend anons upgrade to an i7 4770K/4790K from a Haswell i5 instead of buying current Ryzen. On the bright side, on average your 2600 will be about as good as your old i7 for now and you might get some fine wine out of it
Wyatt Rivera
I just checked DRAM calculator and they do have a fast preset for E-die right now, how likely can I hit this on 1.4v? Here is my current clock.
Doesn't look too unrealistic, you might just need a mix of the fast and safe settings.
Mason Nelson
>speccy for temps actually kys
Evan Lopez
What do you recommend ?
Ryder Ramirez
currently got MSI P67A-GD65 B3, Socket-1155, maybe i should get a new motherboard? especially since i wanna use my M.2 SSD and DDR4 16 GB.
Ryder Gomez
>currently got MSI P67A-GD65 B3, Socket-1155, maybe i should get a new motherboard? especially since i wanna use my M.2 SSD and DDR4 16 GB. This post is retarded as hell. Don't reply to me. You'll only lower my IQ
Jack James
say goodbye to your IQ, dunce!
John Cox
Looking to build my first computer. I'm new at this and could use any feedback on what I've got. >Pic related
Currency: CAD Budget: Up to C$600, but I would like to keep costs as far down as possible. Intended uses: >Basic web browsing >Basic office stuff (LibreOffice) >Normie shit (Netflix, Facebook, etc.) >Using GIMP to make shitty OC >Shitposting
I don't play video games, unless online chess counts. I already have a monitor, mouse, and keyboard.
I intend to install some Linux distro.
For most of the parts on the list, I just sorted by lowest price and picked that. Call me a retard if that's a bad approach.
I just jinxed myself Some threads ago, I asked about how long do PSUs usually last, as mine is from 2013. I change my fans to be all exhaust, because I was hitting 75 C on my GPU (GTX 970 3.5GB), and it was too fucking loud. My case is a corsair 250D, which after reading a lot of forums posts, conclude it can only work in negative pressure because nothing gives enough air to the GPU (and its fans are not enough without sounding like a jet engine). So, I start working in something unrelated, look at speedfan, "nice, low temps, finally". Suddenly, it turns off, and the PSU keeps false starting.
In case it is really the PSU and not some loose cable, is the tier list in the linus tech tips forums good, or is it just memes?
>say goodbye to your IQ, dunce! Nooooo!!!! My IQ is now low enough for me to converse with you. Why the fuck did you buy new ram and SSD when it's not compatible with your mobo?
> MSI Z390-A Pro (Motherboard) > Corsair Vengeance LPX 16gb (RAM) > Intel i7 9700k My system boots fine, but only when I have one stick of ram in the DIMMA2 slot. If I have the other in DIMMB2, it fails to reach the bios and bootloops. I've checked the cpu and socket, no bent pins. I've remounted everything on the motherboard, updated bios, cleared cmos, nothing. Should I replace the motherboard?
Josiah Harris
try a1b1
Henry Reed
Based
Angel Morales
got a 1600 for $50 what should i do with it
Carson Allen
Just tried, still bootloops. Debug light fails to go past ram, as before.
Kevin Rivera
Make a small box to run a mumble server for you and your friends to chat in.
Jose Jones
Thanks. The lists (both gaming scan and ltt forums) look quite similar, except perhaps, seeing corsair CXs relatively high in the gaming scan one.
Henry Anderson
ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dqthhy get this instead. double the memory, double the SSD, and just slightly more expensive than your list
Yeah I would be in damage control mode too lmao. AMD is a joke
Jayden Foster
Thanks for the suggestion! I appreciate the help.
I noticed this has an AMD processor. In the past, I've only had Intel stuff. Are there any Linux compatibility issues? (I don't really understand the naming system for AMD chips, so I know pretty much nothing about them).
Carson Parker
Yeah that's the one thing I'd watch out for >corsair CX Though I think the Rx something is suppose to be their better series. CX is fine though.
Caleb Phillips
I'm sure your post will boost Intel CPU sales.
Alexander Phillips
>damage control Why, what happend?
Lincoln Ward
Is 32gb of ram still a meme?
Ryder Powell
if you have to ask, you don't need it.
Jonathan Baker
Best way to check temps in windows? Because it aint fucking speccy, telling me my r7 is 100 celcius idle.
I am looking for a new SSD (please read the post below)
Would ADATA XPG SX6000 Pro 1TB PCIe x4 NVMe be a good choice? It doesn't use QLC and costs ~$130 in my country which perfectly fits my budget
Brody Walker
for real, why is AMD doing overtime on damage conrol and shilling? Weren't they supposed to be doing good, whats with this?
Daniel Reed
hwinfo64 does a good job, launch it in sensors only mode
Jonathan Scott
fair point, however I had an asus STRIX r9 390 8GB with extreme heat issues despite having a mammoth cooler and ample case airflow (3x140mm intake, 2x 140mm exhaust). Wish that AMD didn't make their cards cook themselves out of the box. Even my 980ti at 1460mhz core/ 7600mhz memory is cooler than my 390 8GB was stock
Wyatt Rogers
it's impressive how much those devil's canyon CPUs still hold their own even in brand new titles. AMD isn't better for gaming sadly, it's only better for workloads that need tons of threads and the performance of them isn't priority, per se. i agree with some of the others, you did get meme shilled.
rip
David Hill
Is it bad to get a 570 and then upgrade down the line?
Joseph Bailey
Not at all. As long as it does what you need it to do, then there's no problem with it. But if you can save a paycheck or two and just hold on, you could save up for something a lot better. It all depends on what you'd be fine with in the long term. If you like buying used hardware, a used GTX 1070 averages great prices in the US used market and is a solid performer for the cash.
David Lee
not for the right price, meaning if the price gets too close to newer, faster GPUs it doesn't make sense.
Ryder Brown
Right now I'm playing on a laptop with a 660m, ANY GPU for my desktop will be better at the moment
Adam Wilson
Oh then the RX570 isn't too bad in comparison. Just avoid the Powercolor variants as those were built like a walmart toaster, typically the HIS/Sapphire variants were great and are not too expensive. Anything with a good dual fan design that wasn't the Powercolor.
Ian Myers
or MSI. MSI is a K-mart toaster
Ryan Myers
>ARMOR cooler with the dual fans from MSI
That card was awful for heat dissipation, seeing Gamers Nexus rip apart MSI for using that cooler on even their 1080ti was beautiful to watch
Samuel Wood
Bump for visibility.
Gavin Perez
What's the best way to move my Windows 10 OS to a new SSD? Or is is just better starting fresh windows on it?
Jackson Martinez
Better fresh. By all means.
Levi Nelson
reinstall is all i can honestly recommend. windows 10 can be finnicky since it updates itself constantly without warning, even in the background. i've had more than one instance where i've supposedly cloned a drive to an SSD and it won't boot properly, log in or anything. Forcing into a command prompt and doing an /sfc scannow revealed a shitload of errors a lot of the time. If the stars align and it works, awesome. I'd just avoid the risk and just wipe/reinstall.
Dylan Diaz
Is this really thick motherboard cable going to fuck up my airflow?
Hello /pcbg/. I'm in the midst of upgrading my build and I'm having an issue with storage. Right now I have one 128GB Samsung 850 Pro, one WD 1TB 7200RPM drive, and two 5400RPM 500GB drives ready to be placed in a build, though I'll be ditching the 5400RPM drives.
If I wanted to upgrade my storage with another SSD, which one preferably under 100 CAD would be the best for my situation?
Not really. In fact that's slimmer than most of the "sleeved" cables I see on power supplies from EVGA and the like. As long as it stays out of the way of the fans, you'll be just fine. If you keep it just the way it looks in the photo, you'll be A-okay.
Zachary Garcia
No
Leo Cook
I'm pretty new to this and looking for general advice on building a PC for gaming and watching anime. I did some research and have put together this much so far: pcpartpicker.com/list/#compatibility_notes I would like to know what I should change. I don't want to spend much more than 2500 USD. I am looking for suggestions for cases and monitors too.
Jaxon Davis
SSDs have become pretty good for the price these days. I'm using a cheap PNY CS1311 (CS900 performs about the same for the money) and I've had it since 2016, used it daily as a boot drive for just about 3 years, and I still have 92% life left according to HWiNFO. They have 250GB variants for pretty cheap, roughly $86 CAD on amazon.
Brayden Brooks
1TB SU800. You can find them for $80-$95 on sale often if you can buy from the US. Slightly above your budget but that's as cheap as it gets at the moment. A year from now, I'm expecting 2TB 3D-QLC drives to be under $130 and 1TB at around $70.
Not when it's down low like that, no. You could route those two braided cables a lot better, though.
>can't link
Camden Murphy
whoops, i'm a retard, turns out that was the 480GB variant for $85. 240GB was $48 on amazon.
Nathaniel Clark
Thanks for the advice. I'll start from fresh.
Logan Green
>Anons wonder why RTX 2060 isn't in OP Friday >Others point out it's because the GTX 1660ti is similar performance for less >Now RTX 2060 is in the OP >RTX 2070 nowhere to be seen, suggestion jumps to RTX 2080 Why the change of heart?
Oliver Diaz
Imagine paying $86 CAD for a 250GB 2D NAND drive Imagine paying $86 CAD for a 480GB 2D NAND SSD, for that matter. Lmao.
Why are people who are clueless, who just look at price/gb and doesn't realize there is any other spec, giving advice all the time in these threads?
Joshua Cooper
Because not one person can make the OP.
In this case, a troll is making the OP to trick people into making bad decisions because he thinks it's funny. He's also ban evading.
Ethan Gutierrez
I'm getting a new motherboard to replace one with a specific failure. I'm probably just going to throw everything on it outside the case, and try to get into the bios. With that in mind, is it a bad idea to wait until after to mount the cpu cooler? It'll just be running for 15 seconds, max. I'd hate to scrape off the thermal paste again, I've already done that earlier.
Carson Smith
Bumping my question because the sale starts in 3 hours.
Hudson Garcia
Just get a mobo that supports your cpu/ram. They're nearly irrelevant to performance and the one you have in your second build is fine.
Carter Murphy
Thanks, at first I was to buy an expensive one for no reason because "better safe than sorry", but you're right.