>All three custom cards that were showcased by ASRock at Computex are dual 8-pin designs. This puts them in Radeon RX 590 territory, which already had a TBP of 225W.
at the very least this time we have AIB partners giving us cards which gives hope for the cooling system to be good enough while not being FUCKING LOUD! God vega and radeon 7 give me nightmares with it's coil whine and fan speeds.
Eli Wood
>This puts them in Radeon RX 590 territory >Navi beats or matches RTX 2070 already
I'm fine with that, as long as they are cheaper than their RTX counterparts that is.
What i'm saying is, make a better thread you dumb nigger.
Cameron Green
It doesn't beat RTX 2070 except in AYYMD biased games like Strange Brigade which no one plays
Jackson Gutierrez
>m-muh bbias
David Foster
Vega 56 is 225W. 1.5x performance per watt > 2070 performance at the same power Not rocket science
Also RTX 2070 is ~200W so you can hardly claim 225 as being a housefire
Matthew Cox
My dick is rock hard.
Jonathan Sanchez
230w isn't a lot though, everything under 250w is okay.
AMD's 7nm chip running the same efficiency as a 12nm Nvidia chip is a disaster. Turing 7nm die shrink will make everything AMD has completely obsolete.
Matthew Wright
>nobody stops novideo from using a 7nm process hard to say, TSMC may soemwhat blocked them on that node because ryzen needs it.
Aaron Walker
Nvidia doesn't allow the user to raise power limits for overclocking. That's how they get away with only having an 8 pin. AMD does allow the user to go wild with overclocking and puts in power delivery to match.
Connor Gonzalez
TDP doesn't matter... What? Works for Intel.
Robert Fisher
>JUST WAIT
Asher Nguyen
it really didn't matter for GPU up to maxwell, then nvidia marketing kicked in
Samuel Adams
>not having a second house to do your gaymen in in case it burns down Fucking poorfags I swear
Levi Perez
Efficiency matters for servers and laptops. Not for desktop GPUs.
Matthew Scott
it does fucking matter. those things can raise the ambient temp in a room quite a bit
William Russell
nah, man, you don't get it it's all about watts epr dollar more dollar you spend less watts you get, it's the only thing that matters!
Ayden Price
if 0.3C' is quite a bit, then yes unless you live in 3x4 closet, then my condolences.
Camden Hughes
You shouldn't wait for anything. Pascal was dominant, Turing is another improvement, 7nm Turing is more than a year off. Buy any Nvidia card in any price range any time in the past few years and you come out satisfied.
Julian Gray
If 50-100W makes a difference to the temperature in your room, then you have a very small room. That's about the energy output of a living human body being in the room with you.
Cooper Jenkins
if you dont have good ventilation it gets worse add the cpu wattage and yes it can be bad
Charles Clark
Heater meme asie, at those prices they dont look appealing. I bought high end ueed before the mining boom and nothing since then is worth the money in comparison to a 390 for 170€ Who spends 600$ for the same fps but aa slider from 2x to 8x
Sebastian Mitchell
>all three >meanwhile the first one has a single 8 pin but we dont talk about it
Hunter Mitchell
their cpus are so good now but this navi stuff is just plain housefire. i blame the poo in loo
Easton Barnes
You're being retarded, you can actually go and check the relative performance of the rest of the GPU's on strange brigade and make a pretty good assumption on where Navi will fall in other games, not to mention that theres a slight chance performance will increase this time due to drivers being immature since it's a new-erish architecture but even if that doesnt happen i dont see how it's failure as long as its priced well.
Jayden Clark
>tfw AMD spent 1/10th of the R&D on Navi and they can still compete with Novideo.
Alexander Hill
Remember when people were hyped for Navi 2 months ago? It almost felt like it didn't happen.
William Diaz
dont you think if it could compete in other games they would have shown something else?
Nathan Cook
Yeah I'm still using a GTX 980. Everyone knows Nvidia has been juicing the customers but they aren't willing to admit the reason. AMD hasn't had a well engineered GPU in years.
Jace Wilson
It still gets my money ideas of the novideo jewtx bullshit. And I couldn't give less fucks about 20 Watts here and there.
>least this time we have AIB partners giving us cards which
I dont get it, dont all high end cards have high powerdraw? and what is the problem really? you poorfags cant afford an extra 5$ a year electricy bill?
Alexander Phillips
Judging by what Lisa said, it's no longer GCN but with GCN frontend. Obviously they didn't ditch GCN entirely, they developed new arch based on GCN. Like Maxwell => Turing, not as big jump as Kepler => Maxwell or VLIW => GCN though.
Should I just pull the trigger on an RTX2080? I was going to order my parts in 2 days. Is it even worth waiting to see what the new AMDs come out? Or should I just go ahead with my order?
Camden Sanders
>pascal is totally not maxwell >turing is totally not pascal
Colton Baker
Pascal is maxwell iteration. Turing is new arch based on maxwell, just like volta.
Landon Hall
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA THEY SHOULD HAVE CALLED IT LAVA INSTEAD OF NAVI
HAHAHHAHAHA AYMD COMMUNISTS BTFO
Lucas Cook
one month left, I'd pull the trigger if it was coming out in september question is if 5900 exists or not. if it doesn't may as well buy 2080.
Bentley Foster
still $100 cheaper than 2070, it's still ~$600
Sebastian Evans
Will it be $150 dollar at most?
Adam Rivera
>5900 exists or not. if it doesn't may as well buy 2080. Big Navi isn't supposed to come out any time soon. It's rumored to come next year.
Carter Wood
And knowing AMD it probably won't be worth the wait.
Jeremiah Martinez
considering how they silently announced better CPU for gaming which is 3600x, and kept silent about 16c, which does exist. I wouldn't be surprised at e3. 2080 is a good card perf wise, but fuck that price and RTX memes.
Grayson Myers
>Rtx 2070 is 600
What's the point of lying this blatantly? This is grotesque.
Hudson Peterson
Why wouldn't they show the best case scenario? I swear people like you are mentally challenged. All Vega cards can be undervolted to the same performance with less heat, it's not a secret. For better or worse, amd created a card for people who know how to tweak basic settings, not niggers like you.
Tyler Allen
>3600X >better CPU for gaming u wot
the 3800X has a higher base clock and two extra cores, and it won't have any latency issues or other problems that the 3600X wouldn't have. The only advantage for the 3600X is cost.
Samuel Allen
More like starting at $300, if Ryzen 3000 is any indication.
Luis Allen
it is 600 here, I've no clue how much it costs worldwide.
Lucas White
Then you better Google search you third worlder.
Jordan Miller
>2070 perf for $340 was 970 a fluke? will we see such circus of generocity ever again?
No it's not, you were wrong and still are fucking mouth-breathing macaque
Aiden Smith
It using GCN ISA early on is completely reasonable. The statement that they are making gaming and compute architectures on separate uarch's means this difference will increase in time.
Andrew Brown
>more than $500 for mid range performance >not expensive why are children and retards so susceptible to marketing
Logan Carter
>3.5GB
Aaron Ramirez
970 was a desperate attempt at outperforming AMD. Same as intel's 2500k. They didn't expect AMD to stumble and went too far ahead.
Angel Jones
Why are poor people with unreasonable compromises so susceptible to performance-per-dollar marketing
Luke Nguyen
sure but I quite enjoyed 390 that came after it for same money for 2 whole years
Aiden Jackson
>HOUSEFIRES I thought only Intel shit was the stuff that burned up with literal flames? Also, my monitor is like 300watts.
Faster than the space heater r9 290X. And it only got faster as AMD's fine wine turned into milk
Chase Hughes
>Who spends 600$ for the same fps but aa slider from 2x to 8x This. I Bought a used r9 290x 2 years ago for 70 euros (Sapphire version with 3 fans), and while it did heat my room in 5min of GTA V, fps was much better than i expected. Steady 60fps with max details (except AA) with a sandy bridge i7 (non k) is a fucking win. Almost 1060 6gb performance and a literal plus if you live in a cold climate
Brody Garcia
>doesnt understand the difference between ISA and uarch
>Jow Forums
Gavin Smith
>new uarch >literally the same shit that rebrands tensor cores as rtx cores
sure
Gavin Thompson
Hi Pajeet Hernandez, it's because of people like you we haven't had a worthy successor of Crysis yet.
Adrian Myers
>Performance between 2070 and 2080 >8 pin is somehow a problem in this range Retard.
Tyler James
>nobody stops novideo from using a 7nm process I think Nvidia made it pretty clear there's no need for them to move now as there's literally no competition for them. If Navi actually becomes any sort of threat, they can move to 7nm and that will be a very sad day for RTG
Charles Torres
I'm actually Ivan Ivanovich Ivanovsky, and i don't get how i contributed to shitty games
Gavin Hall
>no longer GCN but with GCN frontend But wasn't the frontend the actual problem with GCN? Why the fuck keep it?
Evan Myers
Yeah at Computex they were really emphasizing how R VII is here to stay for some time
Henry Johnson
There is no incentive for developers to push for graphics on the PC platform because shitters like you play with console graphics and make up most of the PC userbase.
Brandon King
Maxwel didn't even have tensor cores. Turing is Volta repurposed for gaming, not maxwell.
Jonathan Williams
vega and in enterprise market. Lisa really emphasized that they are making a special thing for gamers.
Jackson Richardson
>I swear people like you are mentally challenged Fuck off shill.
Logan Barnes
>nvidia, have to be careful about going to far ahead and giving customers too much compared to the competition >literally heh I was only fighting you at 10% of my strength >amd >can't for the life of them deliver a compelling GPU product for gamers
Lincoln Ross
It's not like they had to completely rip it off to lift the bottleneck. We'll see if they fixed it though. It's rumored that they increased the number of ROPs and geometry engines.
Sebastian Moore
They delivered stronger and cheaper GPUs for like 10 years straight. Nvidia couldn't win until 970 came out. They still had bigger mindshare, that's how the world works. You don't necessarily need a better product to win marketshare.
Cameron Bennett
but there is an incentive for developers to code better, since the most popular GPUs on steam are 750ti and 1060 6gb at the moment. I'm also not a fan of being a poorfag, i'd like me some high end equipment as well
Jackson Gomez
>They delivered stronger and cheaper GPUs for like 10 years straight. Yeah and that's when I bought them. Then they started producing shit that's better for data centers and mining than they are for gaming, that and either hot or literally turbine jet loud.
Christian Jones
>turbine jet loud Imagine being so mentally challenged you think semiconductor company makes cooling systems.
Juan Kelly
Nvidia is going to move to 7nm+ when volume production has become cheap enough.
They may not have competition, but nobody is buying their current shit cards, either. Sooner or later shareholders will demand a new generation to drive sales.
Josiah Martinez
>it's not amds fault that they stick turbines on their cards, it's not like they personally make them! they j-just decide to use them
Nathaniel Kelly
I see you don't even need to imagine
Samuel Phillips
>it's not AMD fault, ITS NOT AMDS FAULT, YOU RETARD!
Nicholas Lewis
Nice straw man, AMD cuck
Don't it have cotton to pick up, kettle to tend to or rice to cultivate?
Landon Cox
>>literally heh I was only fighting you at 10% of my strength oh yes, I remember when intel shills kept saying they will release all stashed up tech they had for years and destroy AMD once again. here we are now.
Wyatt Wright
>Mah Tweaking >Mah CORES!!! >It won't fail against Nvidia!!! >As long it's priced well This is the AYYMD shill trying to cope while passive agressively seething.
Ryder Campbell
1080 and 2070 have TBP of 225W as well
face if shintel muh 5GHZ and ti lovers - first your CPUs get rekt, now your cards will get BTFOd. cope harder
Isaac Turner
>POOVI Absolutely shredded 6'5" Indian here, can this board please pick a side for us and stick to it. India is memed into every company nowadays.