ProtonMail BTFO >Protonmail complies with authorities and scans emails.
Pasta from restore privacy. Huge News! ProtonMail has admitted to VOLUNTARY surveillance and cooperation with law enforcement. They are not even compelled to do this, but voluntarily will target and log users, and then provide this information to authorities without a court order! They have done this as recently as April 2019. Sven, you should cover this. A lawyer in Switzerland recently covered this topic on his website and also pointed out that ProtonMail is lying to their users about privacy protections. It’s all marketing and lies. steigerlegal.ch/2019/05/23/protonmail-echtzeit-ueberwachung/ And here is the English translation, archived:archive.is/2wJVx
> 324/5000 Prosecutor Walder from the Cybercrime Competence Center contacted me because he was misquoted. He did not say at the mentioned event that ProtonMail would voluntarily publish real-time data. He referred to ProtonMail merely as a potential provider of Inbound Communication Services (AAKD). fuck off.
Connor Jenkins
There is no privacy on any network connected device. Only a fool would assume otherwise.
Interesting stuff, but I'd be skeptical of anything restoreprivacy says. Reminder that they intentionally spread FUD about TOR as a means of shilling for VPN companies for profit. warosu.org/g/thread/S69830214#p69831770 start at this post and go down through the reply chain.
Nicholas Watson
Does Protonmail somehow encrypt every email or something so it is troublesome to open it? I once sent an email from my protonmail account to my professor and he said he "doesnt open such emails" lmao, to this i dont know what he meant
Luis Taylor
He’s probably just retarded
Nolan Phillips
supplement
Prosecutor Walder from the Cybercrime Competence Center contacted me because he was misquoted. He did not say at the mentioned event that ProtonMail would voluntarily publish real-time data. He referred to ProtonMail merely as a potential provider of Inbound Communication Services (AAKD).
I broadcast the mentioned event live, including the instructive lecture by prosecutor Walder. The statement that ProtonMail was a (potential) AAKD would have been too commonplace to be mentioned. The note, however, that ProtonMail voluntarily offer hand for real-time monitoring, was spectacular and was sprinted by me accordingly. As mentioned, ProtonMail refers to at least one real-time monitoring in the transparency report.
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Isaiah Sanders
no, only from proton to proton.
anyways, the whole article is bait. TLDR is that of course swiss authorities can touch protonmail users and protonmail is obliged to gain access to everything they know about said user if they court order them to. the main selling point of protonmail is "no data mining" and "privacy since we encrypt your mailbox", not "we rather die in a shootout with the swiss police than giving up your username".
Levi Nguyen
If you send an encrypted mail from Protonmail to any external recipient, they only get a link to a Protonmail page where they can enter the key you agreed upon earlier and read your message. Unencrypted mails work like expected, but if you've had prior experience with Protonmail you might confuse both. Using your self-generated PGP key for sending encrypted mails outside of Protonmail is still not supported, you can only export your public key in PGP format.
If you actually read you would see that was a footnote change at best. It doesnt change the fact that protonmail voluntarily engaged real time monitoring of their user, as they admitted that they did in their own transparency report. Cope harder protard.
Matthew Nelson
Thank GNU I use cock.li
Ayden Price
yeah, they admitted to it and they had no other choice. so, since i don't engage in criminal activity i still benefit from given perks over other email providers.
Dylan Hernandez
Yeah who gives a dimmadamn about this, all emails are potentially monitored, nothing is safe, at least protonmail is incredibly user-friendly and good looking, both the site and the mobile app
Lincoln Howard
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Josiah Sanders
The main reason why I don't use Protonmail is because they ask something like 1,50 per extra custom domain. Which is ridiculous if you would already pay for their service.
Matthew Cox
>Law-abiding company goes through the motions of cooperating with valid law enforcement activities >Doesn't have the ability to actually read emails stored on the service with encryption keys you manage Welp, looks like everybody should just go back to the "free" email service provided by a literal digital surveillance company.
Thomas Garcia
Anyone who is using protonmail after they've banned people for their political views is retarded. It's worse than gmail.
Carson Ross
perfectly illustrates the idiocy of
Jacob Smith
he's right though
Colton Butler
>worse than gmail >right
Julian Reed
I would also voluntarily give authorities useless encrypted data about my customers if I had the chance, only to troll them. >here's the data you wanted officer >>this is just gibberish, what is this? >it's encrypted. Not even we have access to it. Anyway good luck, officer! Trollface.bmp
John Williams
When has gmail banned someone for expressions of wrongthink that didn't even take place on google services? This garbage is pure placebo.
Connor Foster
You're right for most part. Even John McAfee recommends gmail, because he considers it the most safe. And of course encrypt your messages yourself.
Ian White
Ever heard about encryption?
David Edwards
I'm not saying you should actually use gmail, just that protonmail is worse in the way that might actually effect you. Encryption of your own mailbox doesn't really matter since most people you talk to are going to have unencrypted copies stored on gmail or whatever anyway. Encrypting messages yourself is the only real solution.
David Turner
proton messages are all encrypted
Elijah Parker
that is internal proton message*
Lincoln Robinson
There is nothing magical or special about protonmail as an email provider. And never was. /thread
James Sanders
>implying I don't always send encrypted emails by using the link to decrypt it if I have to
Cameron Morris
The idiocy runs the other way.
Blake Sanchez
Anyone showing up itt should read: OP is a lying faggot.
Angel Lewis
So what's the safest email, bros (out of the major companies)?
