How did apple fall behind in camera tech? 5 years ago they were the undisputed best camera on a phone

how did apple fall behind in camera tech? 5 years ago they were the undisputed best camera on a phone.

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They didn't fall behind, Apploo was always shit in everything.

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iTODDLERS BTFO

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comparing cameras on phones is the definition of narcissism of minor differences. you know how shit all phone cameras are? like comparing the speakers on phones..

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*blocks your path*

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lol faggot do you know how compression, works. they literally use the same sensors from Sony and samsung. how about comparing RAW files.

are you retarded, read the exif information. Huawei is using iso 25600. Xs is on iso 3200.

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> comparing the speakers on phones
what a dumb cunt. not even in the same league.

You are retarded. Both were shot on auto. The iShit reached its limit.

>The iShit reached its limit.
their shit goes instantly out of date as soon as you take them out of their boxes. all apple have is a great SoC surrounded by cheap garbage, including the solder that holds it all together.

lol do you even know what iso is. you have no understanding of cameras or sensors.

Do you even know what a toilet is iJeet?
youtube.com/watch?v=i-GVqqlsE9I

> he doesn't know how ISO works
awww. how adorable. you need to be 18 or older to use this site, summer child.

lol apple literally invented smartphones and mobile os, every company has been playing catch up ever since.

lol LG literally invented smartphones and mobile os, apple has been playing catch up ever since.

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lol you are as unsophisticated as your comments. Huawei p30 pro uses a high iso Sony sensor that literally every company can buy and put into their phones. you think Huawei knows anything about camera technology?? lel

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a zdnet article written 10 years after the first iphone, you are kind of low iq aren't you

So what you're saying is, Huawei puts out high end phones for a reasonable price while Apple willingly shits out low quality chinkshit for $1500.

*blocks your import*

reasonable price? they cost the same. except one has custom built software and the other one has generic software written by google.

>high iso Sony sensor
>software
Pick one iJeet.
Or just admit Tim Apple pounded your ass good to the tune of 70% profit margin with your chinkshit $2 low quality sensor.

lol you shouldn't even be posting in this thread, from your comments you don't understand cameras at all

>ipajeet thinks he should be on Jow Forums

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lol most Indians use huawei and cant afford iPhones. also google and Microsoft are the de-facto pajeet companies in silicon valley

>apple literally invented smartphones
AHAHAHAHA. what a stupid cunt.
>mobile os
symbian was around long before iOS, you stupid cunt. how the fuck did you manage to end up this fucking retarded? unbelievable. you stupid zoomer cunts really need to be gassed asap.

you're replying to two different people including me, you stupid cunt.

>the de-facto pajeet companies in silicon valley

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yeah enjoy your Symbian on the 1 inch screen and the 12 third party apps available

confusing latinos and black people for ipajeets, you are as dumb as you write

yeah enjoy your lagPhone on the 340x732 screen and the 0 third party apps available

> you think Huawei knows anything about camera technology??
far more than apple by the looks of their devices release so far. apple can't even compete with $100 samsungs or huawei phones.
> lel
you need to go back to your home:
reddit.com/r/retard/
> gets BTFO because he's fucking retarded and doesn't know anything about the history of mobile phones
>>yeah enjoy your Symbian on the 1 inch screen
oh my fucking sides. you truly are a dumb cunt.

the amount of asians in google and Microsoft far outnumber apple

race doesn't matter when they're all equally fucking useless and incompetent in all of these companies.

your understand of phones goes as deep as the advertising bestbuy prints on their flyers. the truth is mobile software was completely in disarray until apple came out with iOS and App Store. not long after google copied and made lots of pajeet and Chinese phones. thats pretty much the undisputed history

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> BTFO because he knows nothing about mobile phone history
> but..but... MUH APP STORE!
AHAHAHAHAHAH. what a dumb cunt.

DELET

Apple was never ahead in tech. Having the highest end hardware was never ever in their game plan.

Is there any link to this shit?

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Ah, so basically it only sucks in low light. The map looks a lot better on X in good light.(included S6 because it fucked me up how much better it looked in the pic posted)

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How can iToddlers even compete?

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>Ah, so basically it only sucks in 99% of photo taking conditions

Never mind, looks fine in low light too. Seems to depend a lot on the bit you focus on.

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BASED

>B-B-B-BUT LOOK AT MY iSHIT COMPARED TO A $90 HUAWEI BURNER PHONE
How hard are you seething inside iJeet?

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>suddenly quality doesn't matter again
I mean, sure I agree. There isn't that much more you can achieve with a small sensor anyway, give it a generation or two and the shit will peak, no amount of money can put a larger lens into a small case. And even machine learning meme can only do so much, although obviously Pixel 3 is still king of phone photography for now.

>quality only matters if my $1500 iShit can beat a $90 throwaway phone
Don't you have a designated shitting street you need to be at?
Let me know when your fagPhone doesn't take pure black photos. LMAO

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>taking pictures of pitch dark rooms
Quite the essential use scenario for sure.

>won't post a comparison to a current Samsung, posts 4 generations older model instead
Fucking shill brigade.

>>taking pictures of pitch dark rooms
That's pretty much what normans use their phones for 99% of the time in the real world. You would know if you ever had sex.

>$1000+ iphone
>that picture quality

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>$100 samsung from 5 years ago
>$100 huawei from last year
>$1000 iTurd from last year
Ah, so basically you shit in the street.

>Microsoft is the Whitest corp

based

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>can't read
No wonder you can't get a job.

I saw your excuse, didn't fool me at all.

100% greed. Google, Samsung, Huawei, etc. all source their camera sensors from Sony just like Apple but are actually using the good shit. Apple wants a buffer so they can say the next iPhone has the "best camera of any iPhone" even if its just a marginal difference.

Applel literally used the same shit tier budget Sony sensor for 3 years in a row to jew iToddlers.

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>excuse
The only reason I even bothered with the thread was because I was confused over how shitty the image was compared to S6; hence took it as reference to check what caused it (or whether S6 camera was a lot better than I remembered) … and apparently it's just a bit that looked shitty … which is ironic given how important making pictures of gay pride flags must be for them but oh well.

What the fuck is Latinx?

Its called compression you dumb ass. Sony makes the cmos sensors for most phones so the pixel arrangement and colors processing are identical. The only difference is apple uses proprietary image format instead of jpeg to save space because of the 64gb models. You can literally use adobe lightroom and take 20mb uncompressed files and all phones would end up looking identical.

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Indians are in the Asian group as they're from Asia.

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Also take into account how people use their phones. People are not using their phones for perfect stills like a studio photographer. They are using phones to record memories, this is where iphone live photos come into play.. and also the reason for using higher compressing HEIF format.

Pixel peeping on dxomark is actually a poor fag activity.. dxomark was originally built to test professional digital cameras. People who take phone photography seriously are actually delusional

Compression doesn't explain it fully given the site uses jpeg for both. Besides HEIF quality is the same, just has smaller file size. The VERY SAME picture having elements where XS camera is way better and way worse than others is just bizarre.

While Sony makes most sensors, there are still differences between them and these days software does a lot too. iOS tends to be more colour accurate while having a heavy touch when it comes to zoomed it details to make the picture look better when full sized for example. There is a lot of interesting fuckery going on.

>People are not using their phones for perfect stills like a studio photographer. They are using phones to record memories
Sure, but I was curious over the inconsistent performance … sadly Jow Forums being the way it is, there is barely any discussion about fucking technology and brainlets have to spam about their favourite team.

>People who take phone photography seriously are actually delusional
It's functional enough these days (hell, it was since 2012 or so) and in the end, the best camera is the one you have. While Pixel isn't going to be anyones camera of choice for the best picture, it does an amazing fucking job for the hardware it has, especially in low light. Google deserves a lot credit, and it be great if others could emulate them.

>Also take into account how people use their phones.
Poorly lit restaurants, group selfies at a club, wedding photos in a dimly lit church.
So, all situations where iTrash would shit out a pitch black blob and call it a memory.

yikes

you are the true shill who come onto the board and rave about high iso sensors that are ubiquitous in all digital cameras for the last 15 years. im sure there are design reasons they didn't include high iso sensors on their main cameras to compensate for over exposure and the limited choices in the electronic shutter. im sure when the new cameras coming out will have significantly improved low light performance with the addition of the new third camera, possibly designed specifically for low light capture

you guys are literally giving credit to companies putting in high iso sensors??? lol.. like just about anyone can put a high iso sensor into the phone, its not a genius move. there are reason apple is holding out in that front.

>there are reason apple is holding out in that front.
This. Why spend extra money making a good product when you can just take a shit and morons will pay you $1000+ for it?

there's a reason you don't see any actual photographers coming here and creating unnecessary arguments about which phone cameras are better..because they are all shit and should not be taken seriously. same reason there are no audiophile posts about how much better iPhone XS max speakers are compared to huawei speakers. you guys are just obsessed with the particular brand you're loyal to, which makes you a shill

by all measurements, apple suite of photo softwares are miles ahead of the competition. almost every photographer prefers MacBooks or iMacs or even iPads for photography work because of apples meticulous attention to all aspects of displays and color imaging. you ever see image professionals buy huawei products? lel

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Keep street shitting iJeet. Even Applel refuses to use their own street shitter software.

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yeah which hardware do they use to run adobe software? thats right apple, kek

>apple suite of photo softwares
AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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yeah apples operating system's color management and colorspace support is much better than anything else on the market. thats why everyone runs adobe Lightroom or Sony Vegas on Mac hardware.. kek?

>literally making up bullshit
yikes
i don't think that qualifies for any rupees when you BTFO yourself iJeet
Applel trash is average even by generic walmart laptop standards.

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Yep, fucking pathetic. But this is a company that sells a $1300 iMac with a 5400 RPM hard drive* in 2019 so what do you expect.

* 256GB SSD upgrade available for the low price of $200.

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kek, MacBooks have wide P3 color gamut, which is 2 color spaces higher than sRGB. you are sad for posting a photo of a Asus laptop. lol. id be surprised if you even know what P3 is

kek, the 220ppi wide color gamut display on 21.5' 4k iMacs costs more than most computers. if they didn't reduce the price for base model it would trigger a lot of retards like yourself

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t. delusional iToddler

lots of consumer device even ps4 xbox ps4 pro have 5400rpm drives, its cheap and durable. fusion drives also keep the cost down. the base iMac model is not a Pro/prosumer device like you toddler posters pretend to be. if you guys are arguing about why apple don't make cheap shit then thats another debate. If you are arguing that iMac 4k base model is not worth 1299, then you are wrong. the high quality design, display, and everything else you're getting is worth much more 1299

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>iJeet unironically defending 5400rpm drives in a $1300 device

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Since when are hispanics that dark what the fuck
t.spic

>lots of consumer device even ps4 xbox ps4 pro have 5400rpm drives, its cheap and durable
macOS 10.14 is miserable on a 5400rpm drive dude. But you're right when you say this isn't a pro device. It's for people who just want to browse the web and open emails like this guy: discussions.apple.com/thread/250066553 Oh shit, computer too slow? Return it or disable Spotlight, iCloud Drive and really any other I/O hungry background process in macOS.

The display is nice though, Apple should sell it standalone so you can buy it without all the shitty iMac components.

that guy has other problems, and its 100% not due to the 5400rpm hard drive. spinning beach ball when clicking open emails? does the browser access the hard drive to open emails? lol. most likely his cpu is being taken up by background processes. lets remind everyone apple was one of the first to push for solid state drives when the first MacBook Airs came out

wait a second, does this mean now the Huawai is cheaper AND makes better pictures?

no man their pictures are a load of shit, none of them are the same settings or same format.
Relative of mine has an XS, pictures are fine and sharp, there is not problem with them because Apple has good post processing, like Samsung, and Sony.
you honestly believe everything these larpers say? lmao

and if you actually knew how to read you would realize that apple wasn't the first company to make a smart phone. Goddamn you're dim.

yeah it is cheaper and makes better pictures. so is my $200 canon s200

lel what were these 'smart phones' like before iPhone 1? blackberry 9000? kek enjoy opera on the 1 inch screen

>AHAHAHAHA. what a stupid cunt.
The only thing where he's wrong is that Apple invented the *modern* smartphone.

In a parallel universe where Symbian in Nokia Communicators, windows mobile in Ericsson P900, Blackberries, Palm Pres etc. remained popular, the statement would be false because all those would be modern smartphone lines that predated the iPhone.
But now that *all* modern smartphones are iPhone like (key features: multitouch, capacitive screens, no physical keyboards, joysticks/thumbwheels/d-pads etc. on the face of the phone), it can be said that Apple invented the modern smartphone.

Nobody gives a shit about raw on a phone cam you absolute double nigger. 99.99% of people want a snapshitter that takes good instant snaps.
Lmao look at this try hard /p/ussy

kek, thats exactly why you're posting here pixel peeping on DxOMark because you think detailed metrics matter you dumb fuck

cope

Pajeet Samshit spam farms are spamming Jow Forums with lies again.

>5 years ago they were the undisputed best camera on a phone.
Something that you violently disputed at the time.

Before the iPhone all the Android prototypes were Blackberry clones as far as external design was concerned.
After the iPhone they were all iPhone clones.