Intel is Fucked

>AMD thrashing them
>ZombieLoad / MDS
>Apple is going to replace Intel in all their Macs with Apple's own ARM chips because Intel is stagnating and shit
>Can barely deliver 10 nm while the rest of the industry is delivering 7 nm

How can it get any worse for this company?

Will Intel even exist in five years' time?

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>Apple is going to replace Intel in all their Macs with Apple's own ARM chips because Intel is stagnating and shit
how does it compare to a normal desktop amd64 cpu? last time i checked they were using some retarded mobile benchmark, sounded incredibly underpowered
fuck intel tho

can't they just switch to ryzen? they already use AMD GPUs

>Can barely deliver 10 nm while the rest of the industry is delivering 7 nm
Let's not fall for memes, friend. Their 10nm process is more advanced than the half-assed 7nm version going around.

Anand did more in depth tests and it was damn fine, specially considering it's a passively cooled chip that wasn't made with such workloads in mind.

Given how well they progressed with their SoCs in such a short time, it seems given that they would overtake Intel if they tried.

>AMD thrashing them

Where are the benchmarks?

amd had the luck that a few essential patents have expired between bulldozer and zen. amd can't into research and development unlike intel which will bounce back for sure.

Intel doesn't allow benchmarks on patched CPUs

>benchmarks on patched CPUs
this is pure antisemitism right there. you should be ashamed for even suggesting this.

>Their 10nm process is more advanced than the half-assed 7nm version going around
[citation required]

I am not talking about intel, where are the AMD benchmarks?

>Their 10nm process is more advanced than the half-assed 7nm version going around.
lol okay

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Stop being fanboys. Both of you.

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Oh nononono

ARM reference designs surpassing their ultrabook chips in raw performance.

When Intel is ashes, then you have my permission to stop me.

>Uses 4chin screencaps to argue a point.
Yike

Here's some Geekbench scores.
The A12X Bionic found in the iPad Pro, on iOS:
>Single core: 5,007
>Multi core: 17,931
Intel Core i5-8279U found in the base 2019 13" MacBook Pro, on macOS:
>Single core: ~4,500 - ~5,000
>Multi core: ~15,500 - ~18,500
Intel Core i7-9750H found in the base 2019 15" MacBook Pro, on macOS:
>Single core: ~4,900 - ~5,500
>Multi core: ~19,000 - ~24,700

browser.geekbench.com/ios-benchmarks/
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browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/search?utf8=✓&q=i7-9750h mac

So yeah, considering that the A12X is meant for a tablet, has a much lower TDP, and is passively cooled, I'd say it performs pretty damn well.

There are multiple stories and reports saying that Apple might release their first ARM Mac in 2020. They're probably working on porting macOS right now.

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>Geekbench
retard

He's right you know.

>doesn't have an argument
Delicious.

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Hey, (You) made a nice attempt at sidestepping engaging the argument on its merits. It almost worked too.

>geekbench
>comparing arm and x86 scores
android phones now come with i7 performance! : ^ )

kek, underrated post

Holy shit the intlel fan bois are getting desperate now.

AMD will never be viable for hackintosh.

shush goy

>I'll simply win the argumet by saying 'yike'
lmao NO

>"intel is done for" says increasingly nervous man for the 126th time this decade
yawn

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lmaooo hes really that stupid that we need to explain to him

Dumb Incel shill

>increasingly nervous
How so ? Zen 2 looks great and AMD is gonna take a shit on Intel this year. Remember to pay $2000 for your pigeon shit housefire.

You laugh but my chinkphone is miles faster and more responsive than my desktop i5 after the latest security patches.

>GUI speed and latency is a valid metric
>Geekbench

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Mummy is going to save us.

Based mum

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I suspect that instead of the rapid progress of processor tech that we've seen up to this point, we will instead begin to see the tech stagnate. Instead of better processors, we'll see improvements in production that make it cheaper and easier to make them. We might even see new players enter the game to compete with Intel and AMD. Unless they quickly shift focus to new architectures or graphene tech, it will be hard for them to maintain the duopoly.

We're beginning to hit physical limits of silicon. The "theoretical" limits don't mean shit, we're already running into actual problems despite still being a few steps away from the supposed limits. As we go smaller, yields will only decrease, and problems will only get worse. There is no light at the end of the tunnel, we either innovate, or accept stagnation. Once processors stagnate completely, Intel and AMD will be slowly cornered because nobody needs to upgrade when there is no progress. Other players will come into the game offering cheaper processors, and the old veterans won't be able to contest them without superior product.

good, let them all stagnate so open hardware can catch up a little and software developers stop stacking piles of javascript and releasing electron apps

>geekbench
>geekbench comparing ARM and x86
I hoped I wouldn't see this dogshit ever again. fuck you retard.

"Graphene tech"

Found the undergrad physics student

Ryzen TDP control is shit

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We'll hit the hard limits of silicon material around 1nm. There's a whole lot of design optimizations that can be done from 7nm down to 3nm+ EUV. Also, AMD intends to implement SMT4 for Zen3, which means anywhere from 3 to 4 threads per core. It's quite possible that instead of releasing Zen3 on 7nm EUV, they'll release a Zen2 refresh with improved clocks and some minor fixes to the uArch, addressing any issues with cache and latency matters.

Then wait for 5nm EUV which will have an 80% density increase over 7nm EUV. That way they can have their cake of 4 thread SMT and still maintain the same core count as 7nm EUV.

Translations:
>6c/24t @ 4GHz
>8c/32t @ 4.6GHz
>12c/48t @ 4.4GHz
>16c/64t @ 4.25GHz

With that kind of MT capabilities brought to bear, it will be even harder for Intel to compete with AMD even with their 10 or 7nm nodes.

> Apple is going to replace Intel in all their Macs with Apple's own ARM chips
AhahahahahahahahahahHAHhahahahahahah. RIP Apple as a computer manufacturer. useless iTOYS for all iTODDLERS! yaay!
>Will Intel even exist in five years' time?
the odds of you not existing are far more favourable than a multi-billion dollar corporation like intel going anywhere.
STAY MAD, AMDrone.

> using ARM in macs
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. and retarded itoddlers will defend this, because the most they use a computer for is browsing reddit and watching tranny porn.

> still can't emulated x86 properly at all without significant performance penalties
my fucking sides. this is wonderful. you are one retarded chinaman, op.

found the flat earther

go on

Found the kike

mobileye.com/en-us/
bigger than all of AMD combined
intel is going no where

Well they can still make even if their GPUs turn out good. AMD's RTG is a disaster and so far it doesn't seem like Navi will be any actual improvement or competition for Novideo

>Navi BTFOs everything up to the 2070
>Rtx cards dying left and right, plus the only ray tracing that will be used in the next five years is on consoles, which use Navi
Ok.

Nobody cares about their computer vision, we are talking about CPUs and if there is any hope for Intel in this field.

Intel doesn't give a fuck about the field, it's blindingly obvious.
They hired the best guy in the business (Jim Keller) and stuck him with AMD's old GPU pajeet in the GPU sector to make GPUs for machine learning for mobileye. The industry is thousands of times bigger than anything desktop & even server CPU related.

I don't care, this isn't about making money, this isn't about profit, this isn't about anything other Intel's failure in ONE field.

so advanced that they had to effectively turn it into a 12nm process?

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Not him, but geekbench scores are not comparable across architectures.

ryzen tdp is pretty bad on laptops, it ain't happening.

Intel's 10nm is not more advanced when it doesn't fucking exist in any tangible products
>10nm laptop parts announced
whoopdefuckingdo, looks like they're all going into overpriced hunks of pretty junk at any rate, offer fuck all in terms of advanced performance over their predecessors, and >muh gaymes was their biggest card played. Not to mention the fact that they're still quad core parts with ht, probably vulnerable to zombieload.

Yikes Intel

Sell your stocks

it's only "bad" because AMD is actually honest with TDP.

The TDP intel gives is a fantasy number and has nothing to do with reality.

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BUY HIGH

Yeah the process is so good they're basically ditching it and investing in a new 7nm EUV based process instead.

10nm is not even their original 10nm anymore

Honesty doesn't matter

To be fair Intel CPUs can go pretty high temp wise before they run into problems. Given this, they don't need to be as aggressively cooled and thus can run with coolers rated for lower TDP.

>AMDrones actually believe a massive company like Intel will go down under
>when a literal nobody company like AMD survived being irrelevant for 10+ years
(lol

How's Roman Empire doing? Too big to fail?

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Yes and Yes.
If they survived the Z80, they can survive this.

Geekbench relies heavily on certain functions that are hardware accelerated such as encryption on the A12x chip, so it's not a valid comparison for "general workloads".
It will still get crushed in anything from running gaymes to serious scientific workloads and engineering and video encoding.

>Will Intel even exist in five years' time?
Yes, when they finally get 10nm and a new architecture out they'll likely return to a more competitive position again. It'll take a a couple of years but Intel is too fuckhuge to die out so quickly. A few years of Ryzen domination won't kill them.

based

I think the idea of Apple going to arm chips is that they'll port their own software to ARM. And only have to emulate x86 for other people's software. And M$ is probably working on porting the full blown M$ suite to ARM as well. So it's will probably work pretty well for everyone but software developers.

No one actually believes in Intel's bankruptcy in at leadt 50 more years, but with long enough stagnation intel will lose its status of being THE INTEL.

>And M$ is probably working on porting the full blown M$ suite to ARM as well
It's already exists. RT had office.

based

I appreciate your honesty.

>can't [Mac] ust switch to ryzen? they already use AMD GPUs
If they did that, then their customers would be happy with the Ryzen chips and not want them to switch to Apple's own cheaper ARM chips.

Intel being so shit is what makes their customers want Apple's own ARM chips so badly.

You want AMD benchmarks in a vacuum, not with Intel patched results to compare to?

If you do the test with the security updates, the bar heights are reversed

What the FUCK do we do? How do we stop AMD? This is making us look really bad. We need to set up a Discord or something and start coordinating a way to stop AMD. I'm talking viral marketing, shit posting, misleading information, misleading reviews and everything we've got.

I need to buy AMD stock NOW

Intel is the company for glow in the dark spooks, they'll never lose their status.

Never can be a very long time, user.

Fucking mods

(((Intel))) jew inside

Hahaha my 9900k beats the 2700x

Shill would imply they do it for money. They're closer to scatfags at this point, gladly getting pozzed and fucked in the arse and consuming the shit intel produces

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>Will Intel even exist in five years' time?
Nope cos I'm gonna sue them for being complicit in the Zionist human trafficking operation

>They're probably working on porting macOS right now.
Apple (and Next) have always kept the OS running on multiple architectures, Apple's had OS X on ARM for ten years.

You amd hillbillies are small time.

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>bought Yahoo article
>Yahoo kek
>holiday season a.k.a. December, probably early 2020
>Intel's face when Zen 3 info should be getting out at that point
The worst part is that they release Broadwell again, but AMD can still counter with 16 core on AM4. It's fucking over, Intel needs a new architecture and unfuck the fabs or AMD's \infty yields are going to murder them.

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>4c8t 4.1ghz boost
Mobile?

>4c8t
lmoa

have sex.

>too big to fail
Nokia went from top dog to dog shit in 3 years after Android came out.

The future is Zen.

>in reality

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you are probably an Intel (KS) / (KYS) user

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Say goodbye to free Intel CPUs, jayz2shekels :)

The cope increases